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QAnon: We are better than Wikileaks


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  • Chet Ruminski
    08-12-2018 09:06:08 PM
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    The country over the years has learned to idolize materialistic opportunist. Proof of that is the blanket rejection by a significant population group both Democratic and Republican of progressive ideas. Anything you can say negative about a billionaire is probably true including attributing to them the income gap, working poverticized and transfer of wealth and more wealth to the .001. All this took place under multiple Democratic presidents. Bernie comes forward acknowledging the unfairness and he is dismissed as what? A threat to our society? Trump promised the lower classes what they desperately needed and wanted, lots of good paying jobs. That should have been the Democratic battle cry and the majority of Democratics still deny or ignore it. And still no winning strategy recognizing the short commings of the Democratic Party Platform.
  • that guy in AZ
    11-13-2020 10:29:48 AM
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    Do you remember the crazy lady who destroyed a mask display at Target?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DHgLhXjADY

    As it turns out, she blames the incident on her association with QAnon.

    The Scottsdale, Ariz.-based PR professional, a self-described “type A” personality, had spent the pandemic barely eating, barely sleeping, barely socializing with friends. Instead, “I was all consumed with doom-scrolling on the Internet. I was living in these conspiracy theories. All of this fear porn that I was consuming online was just feeding my depression and anxiety.” She had found comfort in QAnon, a loose collection of conspiracy theories that touch on everything from politics to covid-19.

    En route to grab the water, she noticed a display of masks, the ones to help prevent the coronavirus. “The culmination of everything I had experienced, like all that energy, just zeroed in on the masks. And I just snapped,” she said.

    She took videos of what happened next and streamed them on Instagram Live. They quickly spread to other platforms, reported on by publications such as USA Today. She was labeled a Karen — and far worse. She thought her career was over. She thought her marriage was over. She thought her life was over.

    As she tears the masks off the display and throws them at the ground, she repeatedly shouts expletives.

    A later video shows her in the garage of her home, after her husband has summoned the police. She’s telling them that she’s the “QAnon spokesperson” and explains that she has been on the phone with President Trump “all the time.” They detain her to bring her to a nearby psychiatric facility, as she yells, “You’re doing this to me because I’m Jewish.”

    After trying to repair her marriage and figure out the help she needed, she attended an eight-week trauma program at the Meadows, a rehabilitation facility in Wickenburg, Ariz. She swore off QAnon. She sent an apology letter to the employees of Target. She started a YouTube channel to discuss topics like mental health and conspiracy theories. Finally, in mid-August, a former client called to hire her, the first since the incident.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/11/masks-qanon-target-melissa-rein-lively/

  • that guy in AZ
    08-12-2021 08:54:24 AM
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    Marjorie Taylor Greene is not the only politician who has been sucked in by QAnon nonsense.

    The chair of the Arizona Republican Party, Kelli Ward, is also in the same camp.

    On Monday, she went there, suggesting that requiring proof of vaccination against COVID-19 is just one step removed from genocide.

    It’s not a new analogy. Just an incredibly outrageous and offensive one.

    Ward picked up the cry from Dr. Simone Gold, the founder of America’s Frontline Doctors, a conservative group dedicated to fighting the government’s efforts to contain COVID-19.

    Gold, who is awaiting trial for her part in storming the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, promotes hydroxychloroquine as a cure for COVID-19 and equates efforts to vaccinate the public with humanity’s greatest evil.

    “What’s the difference between vaccine papers and a yellow star?” Gold tweeted on Monday. “82 years. We are increasingly living under national socialism. Stop Medical Apartheid.”

    “Exactly,” replied Ward. “#WakeUpAmerica”

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/08/10/no-kelli-ward-vaccine-mandate-not-like-star-david/5558138001/

  • Dutch
    08-12-2021 11:24:47 AM
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    All I can say; how come that all these total"idiots" pop now out of the woodwork? It is time that the screening for government jobs is done much better. How come we've got all these idiots sitting in our government? Of course the lousy system here is asking for it, because the British form of government is bound to fail, especially if it consist of two parties of which one lives in la la land and sticks to the rich and corrupt part and the other party throws their own people under the bus, or keeps their eyes shut for the "chaos" created by the other party. Furthermore just let the States act like "kindergarten children" and give them an lolly to shut up. Sorry, this country has become the laughing stock of the world.
  • that guy in AZ
    08-12-2021 03:03:20 PM
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    Matthew Taylor Coleman was supposed to go on a camping trip with his wife and their two young children last weekend. But evil was in his midst and threatened to bring about the end of the world, he told investigators.

    He had to do something.

    So, with sunrise still an hour away on Saturday morning, Coleman loaded his two children — a 2-year-old son and a 10-month-old daughter — into a Mercedes Sprinter Camper Van, an FBI agent said in court documents filed Wednesday. Coleman didn’t have a car seat for his daughter, so he put her in a box.

    From his home in Santa Barbara, Calif., Coleman drove south, investigators say.

    Instead of the family camping trip he had planned, Coleman took his children some 250 miles to Rosarito, a resort city on the Pacific coast in Mexico, just south of the U.S. border, FBI agent Jennifer Bannon said in a nine-page sworn affidavit. Then, he shot each of them in the chest with a spearfishing gun, the agent said

    An FBI agent interviewed Coleman, and he confessed to killing his children, Bannon said in her affidavit. Coleman said he had been enlightened by the extremist group QAnon and the Illuminati, both baseless theories that claim secret elites are maliciously controlling national and world affairs from the shadows. He had received visions and signs revealing his wife “possessed serpent DNA,” which she passed on to their children, according to the affidavit.

    By killing them, he allegedly said, “he was saving the world from monsters.”

    “He knew it was wrong, but it was the only course of action that would save the world,” Bannon wrote in her affidavit.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/12/california-father-killed-children-qanon-illuminati/

  • Dutch
    08-13-2021 09:21:14 AM
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    Again it shows how far this country has sunk . It looks like Georgetown all over again. There are way too many weak believers here who are misguided by other idiots. So I think the "schooling" of these people is not done properly, thanks to the churches and politics as well the media who preys on them. Furthermore there are way to few "institutions" who can help these people. I guess this is the only country where people can be hyped up to such deeds, because there are "no limits" on anything which the media can spew out, like these idiotic QAnon preachings . If the "quality' of the education would be better in this country, about what is "real" and what is cooked up by the media and churches by analyzing such, then the "mental" health would be so much better in this country. I'm glad I was not raised here and therefore still have an open mind for "reality".
  • JasonPeace
    08-13-2021 12:23:21 PM
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    This thread is still relevant 3+ years later. I wonder if there is or when a QAnon church will appear?

    AZ posts, She had found comfort in QAnon, a loose collection of conspiracy theories that touch on everything from politics to covid-19.

    I dunno, She's [Melissa Rein Lively] a PR person so I assume she knows all the tricks of the trade to get publicity. I've peeked in at some of these QAnon antics. It's hard for me to equate comforting with the vicious rhetoric I saw generated by this group. She has that whole Karen thing going on. I did know a Karen in my youth, she looked like the stereotype but really was a nice person.

    AZ posts: [Dr.]Gold, who is awaiting trial for her part in storming the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, promotes hydroxychloroquine as a cure for COVID-19 and equates efforts to vaccinate the public with humanity’s greatest evil.

    “What’s the difference between vaccine papers and a yellow star?” Gold tweeted on Monday. “82 years. We are increasingly living under national socialism. Stop Medical Apartheid.”

    Nuttier than a five-­pound fruitcake.

    Dr. Gold is seriously ignorant to make this comparison and hasn't a clue what she's talking about.

    Some examples for the Dr. kook(Gold): You won't be loaded on a cattle car, sent to a concentration camp, removed from your family, get lethally gassed and cremated, executed and dumped into a mass grave, nearly starved or completely starved to death, have evil medical experiments conducted on you, live in fear and terror of Nazis each day of your life, etc... there is no comparison to be made. I hope someone sues her for her stupidity and her medical license is removed.

    hydroxychloroquine is the synthetic version of quinine. (BTW quinine is an ancient drug in the Native pharmacopeia).

    My 1/2 brother has a Dr. friend who promotes this medical quackery stance. I don't really understand the paranoia of these people. My brother did the "conspiracy theory metal sticks to you afterward" test on his vaccinated sister. He behaved as if he had been a witness to a miraculous event, a "gotcha moment", when he told me that magnets stuck to his sister's arm after she was vaccinated. Anyway, this strengthened his faith in all the antivax conspiracy stuff. -shrug-

    There have always been Insane people and acts in the world which is a sad, tragic thing. Perhaps the NET just puts it more in our faces.


  • that guy in AZ
    08-31-2021 08:40:57 AM
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    As Montini pointed out today, QANon has now become mainstream Republican.

    According to Phoenix New Times, three Republican members of the Arizona Legislature, Rep. Mark Finchem, Sen. Sonny Borrelli and Rep. Leo Biasiucci are headed to Las Vegas for a QAnon convention, a gathering of the fringiest of the fringe.

    The event is being sponsored by a group called Patriot Voice, with tickets for the three-day event at Caesars Forum ranging from $650 to $3,000. Former national security adviser Michael Flynn will be there, and 8kun owner Jim Watkins.

    I couldn't find out what the personalized tinfoil hats will be going for.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/ej-montini/2021/08/30/mark-finchem-goes-qanon-convention-vegas-makes-fringe-mainstream/5646441001/

    Jim Watkins is one of the major financial supporters of Arizona's "fraudit".

    Finchem helped to organize the clown show in downtown Phoenix a while back featuring Donald Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani. He also wanted the Legislature to call a special session where he hoped lawmakers would overturn the popular vote and award electoral votes to Trump

    Now, Finchem is running for secretary of state.

    Can’t get more mainstream than that.

    Yet I have not heard the stalwarts of the Republican Party say they would never support such a person for a statewide office.

    Would you buy a used car from this guy?

    Arizona Rep. Mark Finchem is heading to a QAnon convention in Las Vegas, and no one in the Arizona Republican Party is saying a word.

  • JasonPeace
    08-31-2021 10:01:04 AM
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    Qanon gets their reality from the same wavelength as David Berkowitz, Son of Sam, the 44 caliber killer. Berkowitz first claimed his neighbors' dog "Sam" told him to murder 8 people. Later he admitted it was a hoax. Qanon is also a hoax with a significant number of people actually believing its outlandish BS is true. I would imagine at this point many others know it's a hoax. Brother Berkowitz is now a convicted evangelical Christian Murderer. According to their doctrine, he is forgiven and purified by the Blood of Hey Zeus.

    Q is somewhat in that metaphysical realm of unreality with religion too except Qanon believes in the trinity of conspiritacy, the scumier, and the holy hoax.

    QAnon[a] (/?kju?.?'n?n/) is a disproven far-right conspiracy theory alleging that a cabal of Satanic,[1] cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring and conspired against former President Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult. Wiki

    Another sub popular, but similar in "laughable faux beliefs", are the "Flat Earthers" who have a bogus pseudo science they claim is proof the earth is flat.

    They all are, IMO, hostile, condescendingly arrogant, and stubbornly ignorant people. This is the kind of unenlightened stupidity that will go down in the future telling of the history as the downfall of a nation...unless someone/thing stops it.

  • that guy in Arizona
    08-31-2021 11:29:23 AM
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    The mysterious disappearance of the lawyer John Pierce began last Tuesday, prosecutors say, when he missed a hearing for one of the many cases where he is representing a defendant in the Capitol riot investigation. The young associate who took his place said that Mr. Pierce had a “conflict.” At the time, no one seemed to give it much mind.

    But in the days that followed, Mr. Pierce — who is defending more cases connected to the riot than any other lawyer — missed additional hearings and the reasons for his absence started changing.

    On Wednesday, his associate told a judge in one case that Mr. Pierce had gotten Covid-19 and was in the hospital on a ventilator — but only after telling a prosecutor in another case that Mr. Pierce had been in a car accident. That same evening, a different associate told a reporter that Mr. Pierce had in fact been hospitalized, but was getting care for “dehydration and exhaustion.”

    Finally, on Monday — after Mr. Pierce had still failed to emerge — the government got involved. Federal prosecutors issued letters to several judges in 17 Capitol riot cases, informing them that no one in the Justice Department had heard from Mr. Pierce in a week and that “multiple” phone numbers for his law firm appeared to have been disconnected.

    source: New York Times

  • that guy in Arizona
    09-01-2021 02:37:05 PM
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    The FBI may have labeled QAnon a domestic terror threat, but Americans aren’t alone among the bad actors pushing the far-right conspiracy theory​. A new report by Advance Democracy, Inc., a nonprofit research organization, finds that Russian state media outlets are promoting QAnon rhetoric on their platforms.

    ADI looked at Russian state media articles over a span of two years, from Jan. 1, 2020 to June 1, 2021, and found that the outlets consistently pushed QAnon talking points. In 2020, Russian state media—defined as RT ​(including its six different language channels​), TASS Russian News Agency, Sputnik News, and Ruptly—published approximately 5,970 QAnon-related articles.

    There have also been numerous cases of violence committed by those who have gone down the QAnon rabbit hole​: In Texas, a QAnon supporter used a car to attack strangers she believed were pedophiles, and in August, a father of two murdered his two children because his absorption of QAnon claims convinced him that they were going to “grow into monsters” because of “serpent DNA” he believed had been passed onto them by their mother. QAnon adherents were also among those who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 to stop the counting of electoral votes won by Joe Biden.

    https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/russian-state-media-outlets-promote-qanon-rhetoric-and-beliefs/

  • JasonPeace
    09-01-2021 05:03:01 PM
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    I've done some mmmm... unproductive things in life... but never anything as stupid as Q. they are in reverse, assbackwards and backwards, upside down, inside out, pointless, meaningless, delusionary, unreal and creepy. Some of the biggest fools on the planet. a rodent living in a sh*t packed ball of yarn has more purpose and intelligence.
  • that guy in AZ
    09-14-2021 08:08:26 AM
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    To no one's surprise, Trump has endorsed Mark Finchem for Secretary of State.

    Former President Donald Trump endorsed state Rep. Mark Finchem for Arizona secretary of state Monday, throwing his support behind a candidate who maintains last year's election was stolen from Trump.

    In a statement announcing the endorsement, his first for an Arizona candidate in the 2022 election cycle, Trump lauded Finchem's "incredibly powerful stance on the Voter Fraud that took place in the 2020 Presidential Election Scam." If he were elected secretary of state, Finchem would have broad powers over the management of the state's elections.

    Finchem has repeatedly said he not did enter the Capitol, where rioters were trying to stop Congress from certifying the results of the presidential election.

    But Finchem has also refused to release all of his texts and other communications made during the insurrection at the Capitol. Records he has released show he was in direct communication with "Stop the Steal" organizers at the time.

    With a little luck, this guy will be locked up before the 2022 election.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/09/13/trump-endorses-mark-finchem-arizona-secretary-state-election/8322839002/

    Finchem is one of four Republicans running for the state’s No. 2 post and the job of overseeing Arizona’s elections. Trump’s endorsement gives him a gigantic leg up on his primary election competition, Sen. Michelle Ugenti-Rita, Rep. Shawnna Bolick and advertising executive Beau Lane.

    All three legislators are Trump supporters. Ugenti-Rita has shepherded a number of “voter integrity” bills into law that are popular with Republicans. Bolick proposed allowing the Legislature to override voters and appoint presidential electors of their own choosing.

    Finchem is a member of the Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia group that figured prominently in the storming of the Capitol. He gives regular audit updates on Steve Bannon’s podcast and recently told a QAnon audience that he’s hoping the audit will result in overturning Arizona’s election.

    Just last week, he called for Arizona’s election to be decertified after reading the report of a door-to-door canvass that offered not so much as a single example of fraud. “I am calling it,” he tweeted. “Between the preliminary audit results and the private canvass, I call on Arizona to decertify the election of 2020 and recall the electors. There is already enough evidence to show clear and convincing fraud. We have a duty to act.”

    Five days later, he snagged a Trump endorsement.

    No doubt, Finchem is elated. As are the Democrats in the race, Rep. Reginald Bolding and former Maricopa County Recorder Adrian Fontes.

    It’s going to be difficult enough for a candidate with the Trump seal of approval to win a statewide general election. Just ask Martha McSally.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/09/13/mark-finchem-earns-trump-endorsement-death-knell-secretary-state/8325823002/?itm_medium=recirc&itm_source=taboola&itm_campaign=internal&itm_content=BelowHomepageFeed-FeedRedesign

  • that guy in AZ
    09-30-2021 02:37:59 PM
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    The "gullible and naïve" represent perhaps 20 -- 25 percent of the country. They are largely authoritarian followers -- highly ethnocentric, highly fearful, highly self-righteous, and more as per Bob Altemeyer's linked article. They will vote for a demagogue because it's in their genes.

    The other 15 to 20 percent of Trump's support comes from tribal loyalty to the Republican Party, special interest groups (e.g. evangelicals), and of course the super rich who are the primary beneficiaries of Trump's economic policies.

    If Democrats participated in our democracy by voting intelligently we would not have Trump as President. Apathy is our enemy, and apathy gives rise to demagogues who opportunistically take advantage of the populace.

    Mueller will survive and Trumpism will die. Trumpism is based on many lies and people will wake up to find they have been conned.

    Ah, Schmidt. I wish you were right. Trumpism has not died, and is as bad as it ever was.

    In this week's issue of "The Nation", Katha Pollitt talked a bit about QAnon in her essay titled, "Unreasonable Doubt". This is what she had to say:

    According to a PRRI poll last May, 15 percent of Americans believe in QAnon.

    The strongest predicator of QAnon intelligence? Reliance on FOX and other far-right news sources.

    Perhaps not surprisingly, 73% of QAnoners believe the 2020 election was stolen from Trump.

    Oddly enough, one of our neighbors (who has FOX on all day) had never heard of QAnon until we told her what it was.

  • that guy in AZ
    12-15-2021 09:46:37 AM
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    The "gullible and naïve" represent perhaps 20 -- 25 percent of the country. They are largely authoritarian followers -- highly ethnocentric, highly fearful, highly self-righteous, and more as per Bob Altemeyer's linked article. They will vote for a demagogue because it's in their genes.

    The other 15 to 20 percent of Trump's support comes from tribal loyalty to the Republican Party, special interest groups (e.g. evangelicals), and of course the super rich who are the primary beneficiaries of Trump's economic policies.

    If Democrats participated in our democracy by voting intelligently we would not have Trump as President. Apathy is our enemy, and apathy gives rise to demagogues who opportunistically take advantage of the populace.

    Mueller will survive and Trumpism will die. Trumpism is based on many lies and people will wake up to find they have been conned.

    Schmidt:

    We'd all like to believe that Trumpism is going to die, but it will not happen anytime soon.

    As of August, 66% of the Republican voters still think that the election was rigged and stolen from Trump.

    https://news.yahoo.com/poll-two-thirds-of-republicans-still-think-the-2020-election-was-rigged-165934695.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

    The problem is that Republican voters continue to believe the FOX network, and other similar sources, which continue to lie to them on a daily basis - and FOX just lost their only credible reporter on Sunday, when Chris Wallace announced his retirement. On the evening of January 6, FOX downplayed the riot, even though they had tried to stop it earlier in the day.

    Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) dropped a few bombshells Monday night as Fox News’s prime-time lineup was set to go on the air. She read aloud texts that Mark Meadows gave to the Jan. 6 committee showing multiple Fox anchors (along with none other than Donald Trump Jr.) pleading with Meadows to get a dithering Donald Trump to call off supporters who were rioting at the Capitol.

    A little more than an hour and a half later after Cheney’s disclosure, Hannity would seem to have had a golden opportunity to address the elephant in the room: an interview with Meadows himself. But the issue didn’t come up. He instead gave Meadows a free platform to offer a rather novel and particularly ridiculous claim that Hannity himself seemed to disagree with 11 months prior: that Trump had “acted quickly” on Jan. 6.

    “I think at the end of the day, they’re going to find that not only did the president act, but he acted quickly,” Meadows said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/14/mark-meadows-fox-news-increasingly-brazen-whitewashing-jan-6/

    Within the GOP, the followers of QAnon are simply batshit crazy, and will never change.

    The North Carolina man (Cleveland Meredith Jr) who drove to D.C. with plans to shoot the mayor and Nancy Pelosi just got sentenced to 28 months in prison. His journey actually started in Colorado, where he went to spend time with his ex-wife and two sons.

    MAGA Fanatic Who Threatened To Kill Pelosi Sentenced To More Than 2 Years In Prison

    https://external-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQFuDmFl-3W8iUmX&w=500&h=261&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdailyboulder.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F12%2Fmeredith-pelosi-1000x600.jpg&cfs=1&ext=jpg&_nc_oe=6f37a&_nc_sid=06c271&ccb=3-5&_nc_hash=AQGnushtY3J8Afcg

    Nobody really knows how many people like Meredith live in this country, but it's entirely possible than another one of these nuts turns up again.

    The only thing that will kill Trumpism is if Trump FINALLY got sent to prison for his many crimes, not the least of which is his dereliction of duty on January 6.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/12/14/pelosi-threats-sentenced-meredith/

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