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    One step forward, one step back.

    This morning, the Supreme Court blocked the citizenship question from being added to the 2020 census.

    The court says the Trump administration's explanation for wanting to add the question was "more of a distraction" than an explanation.

    It's unclear whether the administration would have time to provide a fuller account. Census forms are supposed to be printed beginning next week.

    That's the good news.

    The bad news is that the Supreme Court dealt a historic defeat to redistricting reformers when it ruled 5-4 along ideological lines that challenges to partisan gerrymandering could not be adjudicated under the U.S. Constitution, pushing the next battles over these maps to the states

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    Yes that is what you get if you don't vet people for the job; "gerrymandering" should be totally illegal; now of course the GOP can do what it wants and "win", due to pure "corrupting" the voting system. Forget it, if this is the for bode of an Supreme Court which leans towards the Trump Party. Congratulations America, let the corruption freely roam.
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    Gerrymandering has been around a long time (since 1744) and both parties have used gerrymandering to achieve their purposes. One of the most extreme is the 4th Congressional District of Illinois, which heavily favors the Democratic Party (It has a Cook PVI of D+33). From a "satellite view" it looks like the pincers of a lobster:

    Maps of the most gerrymandered districts are actually a little comical, and North Carolina's District #12 is the worst in the country.

    Fortunately, keeping the citizenship question off the census means that gerrymandering will not get worse, and recent court victories in Pennsylvania and North Carolina indicate things are improving a little bit.

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    Not surprisingly, the conservatives in our country were not happy about the Supreme Court's decision about the citizenship question being dropped from the census.

    The President of the American Conservative Union is calling for the impeachment of John Roberts:

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    Not surprisingly, the conservatives in our country were not happy about the Supreme Court's decision about the citizenship question being dropped from the census.

    The President of the American Conservative Union is calling for the impeachment of John Roberts:

    And people still say this country is number "one"; yes in stupidity!
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    A group of Arizona college students has held a hunger strike for 10 days in an attempt to pressure federal lawmakers to pass legislation that would create national standards for voting and elections this year.

    Primarily Arizona State University and University of Arizona students started their protest at the Arizona Capitol on Dec. 6 before traveling to outside the White House, where they’ve since been joined by students from other states.

    The group of about 20 young people is urging President Joe Biden and the Senate to prioritize passing the Freedom to Vote Act, which aims to expand voter registration and access and address election integrity and campaign finance, before the end of the year.

    Participants have not eaten anything to show their commitment to the legislation's passage.


    The other night on MSNBC, Senator Warnock suggested since an exception to filibuster rules meant that a simple majority could raise the debt limit, an exception of filibuster rules should also be made for voting right legislation.

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    I have being preaching this forever to have "uniformity" in this country applicable to all the States; no exceptions. Especially in "laws" and "voting" . But yeah as long as an Abbott and an DeSantis are maintained, forget it.

    Things will only get more "ungovernable" if only 2 parties are maintained who both want to "win" at all cost. Then corruption will stick up its ugly head because of the "money" injected into the "voting" system.

    Stupidity reigns here because stupid assholes can here be elected to this government all the time and no one blinks.

    Sorry this country will stay in turmoil (or may even collapse) as long as its laws and "systems" are not adapted to the times we live in. Let alone keep the "dummy's" elected by "dummies" in power.

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    Several lawmakers said Wednesday they are optimistic the new push could succeed where previous efforts have failed because of growing support for changing the Senate’s filibuster rule that has allowed Republicans to block previous attempts to pass voting rights legislation.

    But it remained far from certain that the rules changes under consideration would ultimately go beyond nibbling around the edges of the filibuster’s 60-vote supermajority requirement for most legislation, leaving the party once again facing the seemingly intractable predicament of how to deliver on a campaign promise they say is needed to deal with an existential crisis for the country.

    “If we can get the congressional voting rights done, we should do it. If we can’t, we’ve got to keep going,” President Biden said Wednesday while visiting storm-ravaged Kentucky. “There’s nothing domestically more important than voting rights.”

    Acting before New Year’s Day is “crucial” given that state legislatures are scheduled to begin returning to session in January — potentially expanding obstacles to voter access and drawing partisan congressional maps that would be outlawed under Democratic legislation, NAACP President Derrick Johnson said after meeting with a handful of senators Wednesday.

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    Your "thread" says it all "voting rights" are already "blocked by several States, how are you going to "reverse" that?

    All "talk" and "noise" no "solid' action; that is what you get under if you don't update your "laws" and"rules". Just move it to January then some more "talk" and B.S. Not only just the "rights should be defined, but also make an "uniform" way of voting the same "forms and "procedures for every State. As well every household should get the "history" and " background" as well "education level" of the persons who run, as well their what they will do to make it an better "society" in the mail. Just having "popularity" with an big mouth or having "money" should not count.

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    Heather's letter from last night shows that there may be a glimmer of hope for passing both voting rights bills, but it will require some complicated tinkering to do so.

    It’s worth reading what’s actually in the bills because, to my mind, it is bananas that they are in any way controversial.

    It is off-the-charts astonishing that no Republicans are willing to entertain these common-sense measures, especially since there are in the Senate a number of Republicans who voted in 2006 to reauthorize the 1965 Voting Rights Act the VRAA is designed to restore.

    Here's the problem:

    The voting rights measures appear to have the support of the Senate Democrats, but because of the Senate filibuster, which makes it possible for senators to block any measure unless a supermajority of 60 senators are willing to vote for it, voting rights cannot pass unless Democrats are willing to figure out a way to bypass the filibuster. Two Democratic senators—Krysten Sinema (D-AZ) and Joe Manchin (D-WV)—are currently unwilling to do that.

    I wrote another letter to Ms. Sinema again yesterday urging her to vote for the filibuster "carve out" for voting rights.

    Here's the complicated part:

    This evening, Senate Majority Leader Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) announced that he would bring voting rights legislation to the Senate floor for debate—which Republicans have rejected—by avoiding a Republican filibuster through a complicated workaround. When the House and Senate disagree on a bill (which is almost always), they send it back and forth with revisions until they reach a final version. According to Democracy Docket, after it has gone back and forth three times, a motion to proceed on it cannot be filibustered. So, Democrats in the House are going to take a bill that has already hit the three-trip mark and substitute for that bill the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act. They’ll pass the combined bill and send it to the Senate, where debate over it can’t be filibustered.

    And so, Republican senators will have to explain to the people why they oppose what appear to be common-sense voting rules.

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    Yesterday, Kyrsten Sinema reaffirmed her support for the filibuster, even though she supports both voting bills.

    When her term is up, she is not getting my vote.

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    I cannot begin to understand Krysten Sinema's mind any more than I can understand Lindsey Graham's mind.

    Sinema says, "Eliminating the 60-vote threshold will simply guarantee that we lose a critical tool that we need to safeguard our democracy from threats in the years to come. It is clear that the two-party strategies are not working. Not for either side. And especially not for the country."

    She believes in the "60-vote threshold" to safeguard our democracy. Sheesh! But in our 50 states, there is no 60-vote threshold being applied as red and purple state after state applies undemocratic voter laws that seek to undo our democracy. It is fascism. It is Trumpism.

    Sinema is either blind to what is happening all around her or she loves her donor base too much.

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    Schmidt, I guess as I've said a million times, that the "education" of our elected members in the government is "awful".

    I've written so often that "qualifications" to get any function in the government is not done as in any "industry". Right now you get people who certainly " know" nothing about human interfaces let alone "governing". The "election" process is just laughable; as I've seen with Kavanaugh etc. Let alone an Jordan, what is his "qualification"? So the point is as long as nothing is done about such, forget any "normalcy" in governing. And Biden himself could use his "unused" powers to do something about that, but does n't. As long as no one cleans up on it, forget this country; it will stay as it is, because no new improved laws are designed/made, to prevent the present "chaos" from continuing forever.