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Justice Kennedy announces his retirement from SCOTUS

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    Carlitos Wrote: The only option left is fleeing the capital (and the Seargent in Arms) to prevent a quorum.

    That is certainly an option, but if ONE Democrat refuses to go along then it doesn't matter what the other 48 do.

    Right now the Senate is 50-49 (with McCain being highly unlikely to return back to Washington for a vote on whoever the nominee is). Susan Collins has threatened to not vote for anyone who will overturn Roe, but she has offered a thousand different caveats explaining how she could still vote for whoever Donald nominates, so I wouldn't hold my breath with her.

    If she votes in the affirmative and all Democrats vote against then Donald's nominee is confirmed 50-49. If she votes against and all Democrats vote against then Donald's nominee is rejected 49-50.

    A million different things can happen though. I wouldn't assume for one second that every Democrat is going to vote against Donald's nominee. There are numerous red state Democrats who may be willing to deal with the ire of the "liberal coastal elites" in order to save their political lives, so keep an eye on Senators Manchin, Donnelly, and Heitkamp.

    I think Senator McCaskill would rather lose in 2018 than ever vote for someone who would overturn Roe, but she's about the only red state Democrat I am confident about.

    The Democratic Party is in one hell of a pickle and I don't think many of us firmly grasp that.

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    Dutch Wrote: Dock, I'm happy you see it that way; An High Court as you name it should not be partisan and not be allowed to be partisan. If you look at the present situation then everything in this government can be "bought" with "loyalty" included. So automatically then you can become a dictator.
    Which is the conundrum we're in now. With Trump appointing an ultraconservative, he'll or she'll be more likely to show loyalty to party and sitting president, with this in mind, when the Russian investigation wraps up, and if Trump & Co. are found guilty of anything, and if a charge is leveled at him, all he would need to do is make a couple of phone calls and get things fixed, that goes for our republican led congress too, they'll roll over like dogs to please him. Yes, a dictatorship in the making. He already believes he is above the law.
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    Trump will select a person who can easily troll democrats, liberals and progressives. According to MSM. Sounds like something he would do.
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    Love him or despise DT, he has one unique skill that helps him get what he wants. Trump has a laser sharpe ability to almost instantly determine if a person has one or more of these personality flaws:

    • Corrupt or Corruptible. Someone who is willing to break the law, ethics, etc to accomplish goals (DT, Mike Stone)
    • A follower who is looking for a messiah(his base demographic)
    • Ambitious. Someone who wants to rise much higher in his profession (ie Mike Pense, Devin Nunes)
    • Ruthless. A person who thrives\enjoys doing harmful things to others (Steven Miller).
    • Weakmind. People he can easily control (his sons).

    There are other qualities DT can quickly identify, but you get the idea. Thus, when it comes to picking a SCJ, DT doesn't need to spend much time interviewing any any of them; he is looking for one or a combination of the above qualities. Ideally for DT, someone who is inherently corrupt like himself.

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    So we should do nothing..... Typical Democratic reply. Ask yourself this. What would Republicans do ? They would (Did) say it's an election year. Wait ! If we only had a fighting spirit. If we only had a plan. Roll over and accept it is what I am hearing. I don't like the submissive game plan. I admit our path is difficult but it's better to battle and lose than it is to cower in the corner. Seriously, what would the R's do if they were in our position ? I assure they wouldn't go down easily.
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    John Oliver offered up a solution: Vote...but go back in time and have a redo of the 2014 and 2016 elections. Ha.

    I have browsed the internet on reputable articles on what the Democrats could do in the Senate to stop the nomination. The only thing of substance is to get a few more Republicans to go along with voting "no". That's it. Everything else is wishful thinking. Mitch McConnell is a master of the Senate rules, and there is no stopping him. He will strip any Republican of their committee assignments if they go against him and vote no.

    That's reality. Democrats can scream and holler and make noise and wave our arms showing our "fighting spirit" for TV consumption, but in the end it will amount to nothing. Trump's nominee will be confirmed.

    "And then is heard no more; it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing." -- Shakespeare

    We lost in 2014 and 2016. We cannot have a redo of those elections unless we can go back in time.

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    Schmidt, your coming across like a team that is behind in the 4th quarter, so there is no point of making any further effort to win. Simply concede, put in the 3rd string players, and wait for the clock to run out.

    My thinking is always be ready to take advantage of an opportunity that might come out of no where. Winners never quit finding a way to win, even if the odds of winning seem impossible. If that 1 in million opportunity appears, and the democrats have already conceded, then they get to cry further "We have a second chance, it was right there for the taking, but we had already packed our bags and quit, Oh well, lets go feel sorry for ourselves for blowing another missed opportunity"

    Another quality of trump, he never F'ing quits, and finds way to beats people who stop fighting before the end. Trump never thinks he is going to lose, he always thinks he can beat anyone, anytime, and every time. Even when its unrealistic and stupid. His f'ing problem is that the picks too many fights and picks fights that he can not win. None of that matters, he still never quits.

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    Sorry to say, that people with the attitude of Trump will always loose in the end, since you can't maintain stupidity forever and not get punished. Even the Kentucky fried chicken may kill him or his hair re-growth pills. As soon as the Russians have no longer any use for him; he will be dropped as a stone or get "a hand in the face" like Russia and N.Korea use. Look at history, nothing like this lasts very long, unless you stick to the "island" mentality, then it may last a bit longer before the brains start to work.
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    John Oliver offered up a solution: Vote...but go back in time and have a redo of the 2014 and 2016 elections. Ha.

    I have browsed the internet on reputable articles on what the Democrats could do in the Senate to stop the nomination. The only thing of substance is to get a few more Republicans to go along with voting "no". That's it. Everything else is wishful thinking. Mitch McConnell is a master of the Senate rules, and there is no stopping him. He will strip any Republican of their committee assignments if they go against him and vote no.

    That's reality. Democrats can scream and holler and make noise and wave our arms showing our "fighting spirit" for TV consumption, but in the end it will amount to nothing. Trump's nominee will be confirmed.

    "And then is heard no more; it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing." -- Shakespeare

    We lost in 2014 and 2016. We cannot have a redo of those elections unless we can go back in time.

    Schmidt, the issue is "indoctrination" just analyse on how Miller, Hannity and the whole of FOX talks. If you try to rebut they will stop you in your tracks. All what "they" do is nasty indoctrination of "lies" over and over again. The Democrats have not found an counter attack which works, because the "media" is also not helping, because you see Trumps face all day on the news.
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    wwjd -- I agree that Dems should not "lay down". I support the citizen protests in the streets, which can have the effect of swaying some Republican senators to follow Susan Collins lead and vote "no". That should be the goal of the protests.

    Democrats in the Senate should NOT set some expectation that they can find some arcane Senate rule to be ruthlessly applied to stop the nomination because no such rule exists. That would be dishonest to imply that somehow Mitch McConnell can be stopped through Senate procedures. All the senators know that. The public should not be falsely led down that path by Chris Matthews or anyone else.

    So street protests...absolutely yes. But Chuck Schumer is not going to make promises that he can somehow procedurally stop the nomination. He cannot.

    That's all I'm saying. I'm not conceding defeat. Just playing a different game than the "fictional Senate rules" game.

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    I believe there is a 50/50 chance that Donald Trump will go off the reservation and announce someone not even on the list.

    IMO, Donald Trump wants someone who he connects with and\or can manipulate. Ideally, he wants to nominate himself, but since that is not possible he wants someone who he connects with. People that he connects with have one more personality flaws similar to his (lies, no ethics, contempt for the law, etc). Trump can identity such people within moments of meeting them. Its one of his best skills.

    All the major networks are going to carry trump live when he announces his Supreme Court nominee.

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    I'll find an film on Netflix; if I see his fat face, I have to puke. So it is the best solution not to watch the "idiot" at all, until he's in jail or got kicked out.
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    wwjd -- I agree that Dems should not "lay down". I support the citizen protests in the streets, which can have the effect of swaying some Republican senators to follow Susan Collins lead and vote "no". That should be the goal of the protests.

    Democrats in the Senate should NOT set some expectation that they can find some arcane Senate rule to be ruthlessly applied to stop the nomination because no such rule exists. That would be dishonest to imply that somehow Mitch McConnell can be stopped through Senate procedures. All the senators know that. The public should not be falsely led down that path by Chris Matthews or anyone else.

    So street protests...absolutely yes. But Chuck Schumer is not going to make promises that he can somehow procedurally stop the nomination. He cannot.

    That's all I'm saying. I'm not conceding defeat. Just playing a different game than the "fictional Senate rules" game.

    I support this too Schmidt. I watched part of the demonstrations/protesters on the Dan Ryan expressway in Chicago, and the only thing I can say about it is that they were marching in the wrong place, they should have gone to DC and clogged the Washington Mall. As there is an abundant amount of gun related violence across America.

    abc7news.com/politics/anti-violence-pro...

    People protesting for a cause seems to be the only way anything is changed for the better.

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    I hope citizens find their voices and shout out that this really bad reality television host and failed business man is nothing more than a manipulative self serving thief / Conman. If you stand up and make it crystal clear that aiding and assisting him has a price on election day.... Maybe in a proactive way things can be refocused. I admit it's entirely unlikely but the man has had the masses cowering in a dazed State of confusion. Once powerful political minds are lost because they fear an ugly tweet. Comical that not one other can climb Mount social media. Hollywood couldn't have made such a horrific comedy. Who would have believed it.

    Citizens need to unequivocally state that votes will remove those who did: Nothing or far too little. Maybe someone else will figure out how to reach the masses. I sure hope so.

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    So the suspense is over. Brett Kavanaugh is the only justice on the list of 25 or so who has publicly said that a sitting president should be exempt from civil lawsuits and criminal investigations or prosecutions while in office. That was Trump's litmus test in choosing Kavanaugh.