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Way too early for '20

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    Bannon would not concede Trump was telling lies.
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    Exactly Chet. Why don't we have a competent equivalent. Someone wanting to speak about the other side of the coin. Shhhhhh this is a library. All Democrats should remain silent.
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    They are focused on money and power. Democrats have no focus. The ones that do are DINOs , like the Clintons. Biggest best Democrats of modern times are simply amassing a fortune.

    In the latest Quinnipiac poll in the swing states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, more than half of the respondents said Mrs. Clinton doesn’t “care about the needs and problems of people like you.”

    Not a direct link but relative:

    theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/0...

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    The working class are deserting the Democratic party because they are neglected and chose to support a fight.
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    "doesn’t “care about the needs and problems of people like you.”

    Name one politician who does. None of them care. All any of them are not in politics to care about me, you or the people, they're in politics for the wealth and fame. That includes republicans too. In Illinois, they have a billionaire governor, and another billionaire running against him. We would hear a sucking sound if money and fame were taken out of politics, and it would come from crooks and liars rapidly leaving offices. Bernie Sanders is no better than the Clintons. I just bashed him because he is not a democrat, but people love him in his own district. Democrats bashing democrats is nothing unusual, Hillary did it with her phone call skit when she ran against Barack Obama.

    I also don't like seeing a forum which is supposed to be democratic bashing democrats on a daily basis either. But since this forum is only slightly better than competitors, I'm here to voice my opinions. I might not like other people's opinions, but I can deal with it.

    If members here think there's someone who can run against Trump in '20, I'd like to see people suggest someone.

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    Dockadams, The democratic party has lost touch with the working class. Yes or No? That is one reason why the worst candidate in the world beat a billion dollar campaign.
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    Democrats screamed like hell when Walker went to war with union workers, and that didn't help. Maybe democrats in my state didn't yell or scream loud enough. Many union workers got their walking papers when our governor took over. Democrats even lost the ability to legislate here too, we have a republican controlled house and senate. Politics is definitely local. Once these cheeseheads wake up and notice how worker's rights and wages are eroding, they'll once again embrace democrat politicians.

    The working class was once described as a union worker who paid union dues. Most were in the manufacturing sector. Those kinds of jobs have been lost, and we're probably losing more and more every year due to imports and automation. The working class today is probably a population that is content with not having any union dues to pay, and willing to accept jobs paying slightly more than the federal minimum wage.

    I happen to think that workers or the labor force have abandoned the democratic party, voters are very ignorant and uneducated as to what the CONservative or republican party stands for.

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    TJ, I agree it would be helpful to have a strong leader of the national democratic party that had to skills to take on a-hole DT.

    My perspective is that a strong democratic leader would be a bonus for the long term, but collectively the American people don't require a strong democratic leader to vote out Republicans in the mid-terms.

    And, IMO, DT wants democrats to win during the midterms so his fight is strictly with democrats. Its to his benefit if democrats win, and purge the republican party of anybody not 100% loyal to DT.

    He wants to face an impeachment fight after Democratics take control of congress. He thinks he can beat impeachment. And if does not win, it only means he goes back to being a corrupt business man immune from criminal indictments. From trump's perspective, he see's himself as untouchable, he see himself as a president with the same powers as a dictator.

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    I hope you're right. I strongly want back to back significant wins in '18 and '20. Opportunities to make a correction are seldom. One step at a time.
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    Dockadams Wrote:

    Democrats screamed like hell when Walker went to war with union workers, and that didn't help. Maybe democrats in my state didn't yell or scream loud enough. Many union workers got their walking papers when our governor took over. Democrats even lost the ability to legislate here too, we have a republican controlled house and senate. Politics is definitely local. Once these cheeseheads wake up and notice how worker's rights and wages are eroding, they'll once again embrace democrat politicians.

    The working class was once described as a union worker who paid union dues. Most were in the manufacturing sector. Those kinds of jobs have been lost, and we're probably losing more and more every year due to imports and automation. The working class today is probably a population that is content with not having any union dues to pay, and willing to accept jobs paying slightly more than the federal minimum wage.

    I happen to think that workers or the labor force have abandoned the democratic party, voters are very ignorant and uneducated as to what the CONservative or republican party stands for.

    "The working class today is probably a population that is content with not having any union dues to pay, and willing to accept jobs paying slightly more than the federal minimum wage."

    You are more right than you can believe . The working class has to be taken care of. They don't generate or start anything. They just want a job and as you said would be satisfied with any job.

    I want prosperity and prosperity is there for the taking . Prosperity helps everybody. But it will only come if a charismatic visionary comes that explains prosperity and poverty are both choices . The powerful can elect to hoard money or invest in jobs. Somebody needs to awaken the country to the path to a good life for everybody. Money has to be treated like a resource. Like water or fish or trees .

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    TJ Wrote:

    Weak ineffective minority. Why is that just accepted like the color of the sky. Ahhh, it sure sucks but there's absolutely nothing we can do about it. REALLY ? We should demand far more. We should demand it immediately. Nobody cares about the individual politician but they care about their loved ones who are being disadvantaged by a system that is needing to be torn down and restaffed. Seems to me that 96% of the country is obsessed with television and social media. Is our party effectively communicating to them ? The short answer is no.

    Huge problems in this country and no concerted effort to attack the problems. Mr. Perez. What have you done for me lately ? Not nearly enough.

    Demand all you want. Good luck with that though.

    Maybe Bernie or busters should have thought about the fact that being in the minority means that you, by definition, can't get anything done!

    I just don't get why you're so angry about the Democrats not being able to get anything done in this current Congress. You know why we can't get anything done? Because we aren't in the majority! I know you don't want to hear this, but there is literally nothing Congressional Democrats can do if they aren't in the majority.

    You know what we can do to put Donald in check? VOTE IN NOVEMBER!

    I'm not holding my breath though because a new episode of "Dancing With the Stars" will probably be on that night...because, you know, priorities.

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    Our votes are assumed. I have always voted but if we remain at status quo perhaps I too will check out my options. Maybe we can get an early start on '24.
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    TJ Wrote: Our votes are assumed. I have always voted but if we remain at status quo perhaps I too will check out my options. Maybe we can get an early start on '24.

    Nearly half of eligible voters don't bother to vote for the person who has the sole ability to start a nuclear war. Sixty-five percent of eligible voters don't bother to show up in midterm elections that elect people who can serve as a check on the person who has the sole ability to start a nuclear war.

    At some point we have to start blaming ourselves for the government we have.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    there is literally nothing Congressional Democrats can do if they aren't in the majority.

    I get the larger perspective of what you are saying, they are like working with one hand tied behind their back, and feet tied together, thus what they can do is very limited.

    However, I disagree there there is literally nothing they can do, they just need to think and act more creatively because laying down and waiting is not a answer. My assumption is that they are doing many things, but DT daily crap overshadows everything else.