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Losing the mid terms is becoming a reality . Is the other reality that so many people were sure they had a political future with President Hillary that they are now depressed and despondent. Something has to account for the lack of Democratic energy .

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06-07-2018 02:07:20 PM

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Who says there's lack of Democratic energy?

Democrats had a pretty solid night in California just the other night and averted potential disaster by making sure a Democrat is on the ballot in every Congressional race. California has a really weird primary system and party infighting had the potential to make it so no Democrat was on the ballot in many races, but Democrats showed up in droves and made sure there's a Democrat on every ballot.

The path to the House majority runs through California and Tuesday's primaries made that path much easier.

A Democrat in deep red Alabama was elected to the United States Senate. A Democrat was elected Governor of Virginia. A Democrat was elected Governor of New Jersey after having a Republican for eight years. Democrats erased the Republican's super majority in the Virginia legislature and pulled within one seat of the majority even with an abysmal congressional map. And numerous Democrats have won in local and state races that have been in Republican control for decades or more.

I can go on and on.

There's nothing we can do until November except vote in our primaries and any special election, so I'm not surprised most people aren't at peak enthusiasm right now. We've showed up in every local, state, and Federal election since Donald took office, so I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll show up come November too.

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06-07-2018 05:34:50 PM

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I didn't read that in the Democratic results in CA but if you did then I concede.

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Chet Ruminski Wrote: I didn't read that in the Democratic results in CA but if you did then I concede.

There are seven districts in California where Clinton won a majority of the vote, but a Republican Representative won because there was no Democrat to vote for due to Democratic infighting in the primary that split the vote and made it so two Republicans were on the ballot.

Thankfully Democrats got their act together this year and those seven districts have one Democrat and one Republican pitted against each other instead of two Republicans running against each other.

No Republican made it on the ballot for the Senate either, so either Feinstein or Democratic State Senator Kevin de León will win. I'd be shocked if Feinstein lost, but even if she did we'd still have a Democrat replacing her.

The Governor's race in California is a done deal for Gavin Newsom, who actually ran ads in support of the Republican nominee in order to avoid having a head to head with Democratic Mayor of Los Angeles Antonio Villaraigosa. California is an overwhelmingly Democratic state and Newsom is virtually guaranteed to win unless he has a colossal scandal that somehow brings him down, something that's rather unlikely considering he's been in public office for over two decades and has been thoroughly vetted.

So California is looking really, really good for us come November. Those seven districts that Clinton won, but currently have a Republican Representative can be the key to Democrats retaking the lower chamber come November.

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06-07-2018 06:27:53 PM

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Chet is correct. We're winning simply because Rethuglicans are very self serving and offering voters little to nothing. Be a team player and praise the DNC but they're highly ineffective.

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TJ Wrote: Chet is correct. We're winning simply because Rethuglicans are very self serving and offering voters little to nothing. Be a team player and praise the DNC but they're highly ineffective.

The DNC was pretty darn effective in California this past Tuesday by helping make sure that a Democrat will be on the ballot in every major House race...

Are any of us able to give credit where credit is due or is it just simply easier to have the DNC as the perpetual boogeyman?

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06-08-2018 08:40:08 AM

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jaredsxtn Wrote:
TJ Wrote: Chet is correct. We're winning simply because Rethuglicans are very self serving and offering voters little to nothing. Be a team player and praise the DNC but they're highly ineffective.
The DNC was pretty darn effective in California this past Tuesday by helping make sure that a Democrat will be on the ballot in every major House race...
Are any of us able to give credit where credit is due or is it just simply easier to have the DNC as the perpetual boogeyman?

Jared, as long as the "money" as well awful "laws" stays in elections and no proper vetting of these candidates then this country will remain in chaos. Sorry the Dem's are facing the established and expanded corruption as well, because it has become a "norm". As well how are the Dem's going to undo all the damage done already?

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07-08-2018 12:34:55 PM

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This story from 2 weeks ago suggests our message is not there. I guess it's not too late to address but it doesn't get talked about. November will be here before we know it.

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07-08-2018 12:51:12 PM

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TJ Wrote:
This story from 2 weeks ago suggests our message is not there. I guess it's not too late to address but it doesn't get talked about. November will be here before we know it.
google.com/amp/s/washingtonpost.com/amp...

The "mid term" elections will come too late; this won't help to get Trump impeached or indicted if the outcome is that Trump is dragged before the Supreme Court, may be the verdict may be not as expected, because of his nomination of an Judge who is "loyal" to Trump, unless Mueller comes with something so terrible that they can't suppress it.

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I would be most satisfied if we gain seats to be more of an opposition. His lack of any challenge has to change.

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TJ Wrote: I would be most satisfied if we gain seats to be more of an opposition. His lack of any challenge has to change.

He won't have an official challenger until the Democratic primary season is concluded in mid 2020. That's when we'll find out who Democrats choose to be our nominee for President.

I find your frustration somewhat confusing though. Many Democrats hated having a party standard bearer in 2016 and searched for someone in the party to challenge her. That brought about a nasty primary campaign that wound up with the die hard supporters of her opponent being the deciding factor in making Donald the 45th President.

So having a standard bearer isn't always a good thing, especially in the age of hyper partisanship. Be careful what you wish for because the next "_____ or busters" are just itching to blow everything up once again.

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TJ Wrote:
This story from 2 weeks ago suggests our message is not there. I guess it's not too late to address but it doesn't get talked about. November will be here before we know it.
google.com/amp/s/washingtonpost.com/amp...

Trump framed what should have been the Democratic slogan in 2016 : "Lots of good paying jobs".

Are the Democrats so afraid of Wall Street that they are afraid to demand investment in this country . For many years now the Democrats have sat idoly by while Republicans passed laws that let Wall Street divert money from jobs to gambling. Income gap keeps growing while the standard of living keeps shrinking .

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Chet Ruminski Wrote:
TJ Wrote:
This story from 2 weeks ago suggests our message is not there. I guess it's not too late to address but it doesn't get talked about. November will be here before we know it.
google.com/amp/s/washingtonpost.com/amp...

Trump framed what should have been the Democratic slogan in 2016 : "Lots of good paying jobs".
Are the Democrats so afraid of Wall Street that they are afraid to demand investment in this country . For many years now the Democrats have sat idoly by while Republicans passed laws that let Wall Street divert money from jobs to gambling. Income gap keeps growing while the standard of living keeps shrinking .

Chet, I don't want to hammer a dead horse but, "lots of good paying jobs" is an horrible slogan; the unemployment here is at its lowest since the 70's. The "paying" part" as Trump says: the wages are too high to be competitive. No, Chet it is not the wages. It is purely the case that the US has refused to develop with the times. An typical example is high speed trains; Europe has had them for years; barely any here. Let alone an modern "metro" system. Also the electric system is years behind; now finally solar farms are being used, but undermined by Trump, who is now putting penalties on foreign made panels, while very few industries make those here and are more costly to make. What about the infrastructure here? Probably can't find workers for it ; foreigners are not allowed into the country either to do such jobs, so forget that as well. etc. etc. No, Chet "lots of good paying jobs"will be disappearing in this country because of Trump and his trade policies.

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