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  • Independent
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    The reboot for her show in March has been consider a huge success, and she has been a huge trump fan. She felt, like trump, that her star status and hit show made her bullet proof. She made a racist remark, and within 2-3 hours her show was cancelled.

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    ABC immediately terminated her. But, think about it, trump has said or done worse.

    In regards to Rossane, think of trump as cancer. Cancer is itself thrives as it spreads, but it kills every cell it touches. Trump thrives, but everybody that become connected to him ultimately pays a huge price for thinking they will thrive like trump by being like trump.

    Right now, the only thing protecting trump is his ability to abuse presidential powers. Everyone else who is directly associated with him are dead men walking. Just like cancer, they will suffer a long painful death for being on his team. Rosanne was on his team, but she was not protected by trump's presidential powers, so ABC fired her without hesitation.

    Good chance trump will start attacking ABC and specific shows on the network.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    It's debatable which made more caustic statements, both are as reprehensible as you can hear. As with Trump, I never liked that stupid bitch either, and I consider both Trump and her being televised as just garbage television. Some Americans are dumbed down and numb to ignorance of what TV producers consider as funny. Maybe Trump will consider her for a position in his cabinet of fools? She'd be a good fit for HHS secretary since she is a racist too.

    TV shows like hers which make the stupid remarks about different situations in life is what mainstream America coniders as funny or talent is an indication that Americans really are uneducated dimwits, look what we have running our country, a picture is worth a million words.

    Dimwits like the cops that arrested two black guys in a Starbucks, and the CEO of said coffee shop mandatorily having a 1/2 day time out for race sensitivity training is nothing more than to appease other dimwits into thinking that he is doing the right thing. Good upbringing starts in the home when children are at a very young age, not when they're aged 18 to 65. You can try to teach them lessons, but will they be willing to learn? America has deep seeded problems. How that stupid bitch Roseanne or Trump ever got this far in life is beyond comprehension.

    Someday maybe we'll read or hear that Roseanne OD'ed on Ambien. People will laugh too.

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    This move by ABC is extremely significant. The Show "Rosanne" was their biggest hit show, potentially worth over $100 million in annual revenue. To walk away from that kind of money means they are fucking serious about the issue. They knew if Rosanne was allowed to remain in the air after making such a racist comment, she would become ABC's version of trump. She would only get worse, more racist, and more demanding.

    nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/roseanne-barr-a...

    I doubt that trump will come to Rosanne's defense because she crossed an unforgivable line in Trump World. In Trump World its perfectly OK to make racist comments, the #1 sin in Trump World is to apologize and admit to having made a mistake. To apologize is a major sin, which is something trump can not forgive. he perceives apologies as a sign of weakness and a coward. He would likely have defended her if she had doubled down, stayed true, and made more racist comments. Trump would have applauded her if, instead of apologizing, she had a follow up tweet: "Not only is VJ an Ape looking Muslim bitch, she stinks like one too". Trump respects people who double down and and never apologize.

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    The terrible thing is that the Republican herd know so little of the outside world, and either don't know or don't care how Trump is shaming decent America by his ludicrous antics!
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    Impossible for me to care less.
  • Center Left
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    His offensive ways are the same but a penis is a get out of jail free card.

    My hope is that personal actions are something we will again be accountable for.

    I seriously doubt that she lives in an all white state so I hope she feels unsafe about going out in public. She should get harsh critique and learn to feel shame.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Trump is far from being over . The lack of radical talk against him from professional politicians shows they are pondering their fit in Trumpism.
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    trump tweet:

    "Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that “ABC does not tolerate comments like those” made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn’t get the call?"

    Trump is most likely referring to unfavorable ABC news reporting that trump did not like when trump defended Roy Moore, and only Fox news supported Trump free speech right to defend racists and adult men in their 30s who like having sex with teenage girls.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    So Roseanne tweeted she was deleting her twitter account. No. She was just faking it. Right now, she has as many tweets as her beloved president. She even went as far as to say that Mrs. Obama was the person behind her being fired.

    One tweet deserves another and another, if you do not want tweet responses from attacking you, just simply stop tweeting. But she has a serious mental disorder. She should seek professional help.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    So, can a person or people who claim to have helped other people of different races and ethnic backgrounds be racists?

    I thought about that question after my post in this thread, and wondered about Roseanne's statement that she has helped others for the past 30 years. In a way, it sort of reminded me of the old southern democrats who thought that some blacks should still be owned by white plantation owners. But if you were around during those times, and asked a southern democrat if they were a racist, their answer would probably have been an emphatically no.

    "In the 19th century, Southern Democrats comprised whites in the South who believed in Jeffersonian democracy. In the 1850s they defended slavery in the United States, and promoted its expansion into the West against northern Free Soil opposition."

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Said Dockadams:

    "Good upbringing starts in the home when children are at a very young age, not when they're aged 18 to 65."

    That is why I said racism has not changed in 50 years. Laws being passed is not significant in changing people's feelings. So the people responsible for raising a certain type of person are and were set in their ways. Any changes in racial appreciation is tenuous at best. I hear young people today saying racist remarks no different than I heard 50 years ago. I watched a program about keeping Chinese people out of the US in the late 1800's. And considering the feelings against the poor today and don't see much consideration for anything .

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    wwjd Wrote: This move by ABC is extremely significant. The Show "Rosanne" was their biggest hit show, potentially worth over $100 million in annual revenue. To walk away from that kind of money means they are fucking serious about the issue. They knew if Rosanne was allowed to remain in the air after making such a racist comment, she would become ABC's version of trump. She would only get worse, more racist, and more demanding.

    That $100 million is a drop in the bucket of the $55 billion in revenue the Walt Disney Company has pulled in each of the last two years.

    I think they pulled the plug because they are terrified of a boycott from the 18-49 age group that every advertiser salivates over, especially since their weekly viewership precipitously declined from week to week during the season. Hell - 1.5 million more people watched NCIS than the season finale of Roseanne, even though they both were on the same night.

    It's not like Disney executives weren't aware of Roseanne's racist and conspiratorial rants before the reboot, so I'm guessing they were simply using her unhinged ape comparison as an excuse to cut their losses before a second season that would invariably attract far fewer viewers.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    To say the least Rosanne was weird. She and Tom Arnold got into some tasteless situations.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I think they pulled the plug because they are terrified of a boycott from the 18-49 age group that every advertiser salivates over, especially since their weekly viewership precipitously declined from week to week during the season. Hell - 1.5 million more people watched NCIS than the season finale of Roseanne, even though they both were on the same night.

    It's not like Disney executives weren't aware of Roseanne's racist and conspiratorial rants before the reboot, so I'm guessing they were simply using her unhinged ape comparison as an excuse to cut their losses before a second season that would invariably attract far fewer viewers.

    Yes, other speculation has been that if they had not acted immediately to cut ties with Rosanne Barr, ABC\Disney would be sucked into Trump World and gotten hit from all sized, those that support Barr (ie trump's base) and the politics\business that do not want themselves associated Racist headlines and Barr\Trump Tabloid trash talking. Trying to thread the needle would have been a catch-22, so they picked a side that they felt was in the best long term interest of the company. It happened before for lesser reasons when a company prefers to have nobody controversial\unpredictable in a position of power.

    I am willing defend the show because it was very well written and the rest of cast are very talented people. It was not a reality show, where they were a family playing themselves. It was actors, writers, etc that put the show together, not Rosanne alone.

    I think the show was written to be fair toward non-racist trump supporters. Rural lower-middle People, who have been screwed over by big business. AKA, a car manufacturer who employs 50% precept of some mid-west town, and decides to shut down the plant because the car company can get a 25% increase in profits by moving the plant out of the country... Rural trump voters are angry about those kind of things, and blame both Democrats and Republicans for not helping them move forward.

    It can be argued that their complaint of being screwed over is not just a natural shift from one industry to and another industry where skilled laborers can apply their skills in a different industry (ie shifting from horse base culture to the Car based culture). For them, it's like getting fired from their job because they have professional labor skills and the shift is to a much higher requirement that they have a Masters degree to earn the same middle class income; its not a lateral shift where everybody wins (they get a better job, better pay), it is a shift that leaves them with less options, and those options are moving down toward lower class than staying in middle class.