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Another "Thoughts and Prayers" happening

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Daily Mail, May 18, 2018: High School Massacre in Texas

    At least 8 to 10 students killed at a Santa Fe high school near Houston. Gunman taken alive. President Trump was quick to take to Twitter, saying: 'School shooting in Texas. Early reports not looking good. God bless all!'

    We will hear many similar condolences with offerings of "thoughts and prayers" today. And not much else will happen. "Now is not the time."

  • Liberal Democrat
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    It happens every time there's a mass shooting, "our condolences" is getting old.

    NRA: if those children in that school would have had guns, they could have defended themselves, we need more guns.

    snark/

  • Liberal Democrat
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    More on the shooter...

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/05/dimitrios-pagourtzis/

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    More on the shooter...

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/05/dimitrios-pagourtzis/

    Not a dreamer. Not a minority. Not an illegality immigrant. Not a gang member.... Not a reason to do anything about it yet.

  • Independent
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    Prediction: at least 5 more mass school shootings in 2018, and even more in 2019, all fitting into the same profile; sole gunman, White teenage male.

    At the national level no action will be taken other than "We need to discuss this further"; only local governments will enact new guns restrictions and take proactive action.

  • Center Left
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    Sickens me that most Republicans won't see any problems.

    By the way.... where were those good guys with guns that are always suggested to be the solution ? Hoping constantly that record numbers of voters including many new voters will participate in November and going forward.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    The Texas government proposed praying the evil away. Evil, as in guns, guns kill, it's their sole purpose, to kill.

    The Texas government also proposed fortifying schools with only one or two entrance/exit doors to keep bad people out. The retrofit schools will probably look somewhere on the order of what as pictured below:

  • Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote:

    Sickens me that most Republicans won't see any problems.

    By the way.... where were those good guys with guns that are always suggested to be the solution ? Hoping constantly that record numbers of voters including many new voters will participate in November and going forward.

    That's what the NRA want's to know too.
  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote:

    Sickens me that most Republicans won't see any problems.

    By the way.... where were those good guys with guns that are always suggested to be the solution ? Hoping constantly that record numbers of voters including many new voters will participate in November and going forward.

    I think NRA will be arguing that because there were no armed police in each classroom and no armed teachers, the shooter was able kill 10+ plus people.

  • Liberal
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    The only worse thing than a "bad man with a gun" is a "good man with a gun"!
  • Independent
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    pr Wrote: The only worse thing than a "bad man with a gun" is a "good man with a gun"!

    I don't understand that comment.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    When one reads about Dimitrios Pagourtzis, he has no background on crime. Never been arrested. Member of his local Greek Orthodox church and a member of a dance troupe in that church. Honor roll student. Defensive player on the football team.

    However, quiet. He started wearing the trench coat to school after the Parkland High shooting; it was common to see him wearing it so he didn't stand out on the day of the shooting. The guns (shotgun and pistol) he used were legally owned by his father.

    Washington Post: Alleged school killer Dimitrios Pagourtzis had a fondness for trench coats and a growing darkness

    Still I suppose the signs were there in the few days leading to the shooting. He showed a fascination with fascism and things military. As per the WP article, "on the same day he posted the T-shirt photo of himself [born to kill], Pagourtzis uploaded a picture of a jacket adorned with several pinned symbols. In captions, he explained the significance of each: the Communist Party’s hammer and sickle representing rebellion, Nazi Germany’s Iron Cross representing bravery, the Japanese rising sun for the tactics of kamikaze pilots, the Knights Templar’s Baphomet for evil and the Cthulhu from science fiction for power."

    But no prior history of that kind of interest.

    Hard to understand...being bullied perhaps.

  • Independent
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    But yeah as with everything here; likely we carry on as usual and nothing gets done which has any effect. I guess Jesus must have gone nuts with all these prayers and has bought an AR 15; there are no background checks in heaven. This must be the most stupid country in the world for sure.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Determine gun free zones: zero tolerance, stop, search , confiscate, detain.

    Or keep having massacres.

    There are laws in FL determining gun free zones. Enforce .

  • Center Left
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    I saw a meme today where it was suggested that perhaps the school had too many Doors. The punchline was - now you're blaming Doors ?