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  • Independent
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    Current reporting is that trump will be meeting with NK for 1 day and he plans to come away with iron clad perfect deal. A deal so perfect that it guarantees him a Nobel Peace prize for accomplishing the impossible.

    Think carefully for a moment, how can he be 100% confident that a perfect deal can be made in one day? A deal where NK agrees to every single trump demand without asking for anything in return other than trump's word for never ending safety?

    How can trump promise the impossible upfront and be the only person who makes the deal?

  • Independent
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    J.D. Sorry this thing is going to be the biggest scam you've ever seen.

    The only reason for Kim is that his "nuke factory" blew up; but he may have enough nukes hidden somewhere. Thus that disaster gives him the leverage to negotiate and acts like they have no nukes anymore. It is the perfect "trap" to lure Trump in.

    Of course Trump will play it if it is his achievement, while that will be then the biggest lie ever.

    Is this country that stupid that they believe Trump? Shaking my old head.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    wwjd Wrote:

    Current reporting is that trump will be meeting with NK for 1 day and he plans to come away with iron clad perfect deal. A deal so perfect that it guarantees him a Nobel Peace prize for accomplishing the impossible.

    Think carefully for a moment, how can he be 100% confident that a perfect deal can be made in one day? A deal where NK agrees to every single trump demand without asking for anything in return other than trump's word for never ending safety?

    How can trump promise the impossible upfront and be the only person who makes the deal?

    Make a world status deal in a day??? With a guy so paranoid and deluded that he orders people to defined locations so he can blow them up with high explosive artillery rounds.
  • Independent
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    Q: Why is trump so confident he alone will convince NK to give up their entire nuclear program in a single one day meeting?

  • Liberal Democrat
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    If the reports are true that the North Korean nuclear test site has collapsed and is unusable for further nuclear testing, then "giving up" something that they no longer have becomes a political bargaining chip on both sides. Kim Jung-Un can give it up as part of the "negotiations" and Trump can claim the credit for it...and then brag so much that his bragging becomes a populist movement for the Nobel Peace prize.

    However, as Dutch pointed out, it remains to be seen what happens beyond that one day of "negotiations". Will Trump initiate another economic recovery program in North Korea at US taxpayers expense? A jobs program perhaps, by the job creator? Or is the economic revitalization program to become largely China's and South Korea's responsibility with Trump getting all the credit?

    Nevertheless, for such a denuclearization program to work, North Korea will have to dismantle their entire nuclear program including giving up their existing arsenal of nuclear bombs, uranium material and such to China. They will also have to invite inspectors on a regular basis to ensure that the nuclear deal is being accommodated and that North Korea is not reconstituting their program on the sly. In other words, the North Korea nuclear deal become a carbon copy of the Iran nuclear deal that Trump just scuttled.

    And as a bonus, Trump avoids impeachment by a Republican controlled Congress and gets re-elected for a second term. You betcha....

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    If the reports are true that the North Korean nuclear test site has collapsed and is unusable for further nuclear testing, then "giving up" something that they no longer have becomes a political bargaining chip on both sides. Kim Jung-Un can give it up as part of the "negotiations" and Trump can claim the credit for it...and then brag so much that his bragging becomes a populist movement for the Nobel Peace prize.

    However, as Dutch pointed out, it remains to be seen what happens beyond that one day of "negotiations". Will Trump initiate another economic recovery program in North Korea at US taxpayers expense? A jobs program perhaps, by the job creator? Or is the economic revitalization program to become largely China's and South Korea's responsibility with Trump getting all the credit?

    Nevertheless, for such a denuclearization program to work, North Korea will have to dismantle their entire nuclear program including giving up their existing arsenal of nuclear bombs, uranium material and such to China. They will also have to invite inspectors on a regular basis to ensure that the nuclear deal is being accommodated and that North Korea is not reconstituting their program on the sly. In other words, the North Korea nuclear deal become a carbon copy of the Iran nuclear deal that Trump just scuttled.

    And as a bonus, Trump avoids impeachment by a Republican controlled Congress and gets re-elected for a second term. You betcha....

    Yes Schmidt; indeed this will be the biggest scam ever. Also don't forget that they certainly don't get rid of all their missiles and huge army and equipment. Since the country is mountainous it can hide their nukes in underground facilities which are hard to detect. Also don't forget N.Korea's ties to Iran as well Russia.

    If this country falls for all the Trump "lies" and incompetence then indeed this country is doomed; the world will no longer see this country as reliable or as trustworthy or a country with "brains".

  • Strongly Liberal
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    And just today , the NK leader cancelled the meeting . Why? Because the US continues it's military games in SK. We regularly practice attacking NK. You would think these idiots might have been cool right now. But they aren't and why is that? It's because we have no state dept. No national security strategy. We have idiots running our government along with criminals busy stealing . And nothing else.

    I told you there would be shooting . Today the killing began. Soon it will spread. Eventually , it will be here.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    However, as Dutch pointed out, it remains to be seen what happens beyond that one day of "negotiations". Will Trump initiate another economic recovery program in North Korea at US taxpayers expense? A jobs program perhaps, by the job creator? Or is the economic revitalization program to become largely China's and South Korea's responsibility with Trump getting all the credit?

    I would argue that from trump's perspective, the details of the deal are irrelevant and he will agree to what NK wants.. It's all about closing the deal using bullshit so he take claim a"Win", while not giving a shit about the details

    trump does not care what it will cost or if falls apart shortly after. He will always claim victory, and place the blame on others; it is how all his cons works, he keeps the reward, others deal with fall out. (ie he takes out 100 million bank loan, never pays the loan back, trump sues the bank, bank settle out of court, trump keep $50 million of the $100 million)

    As a con man, he knows all the stage of the con, the setup, the execution, and the fallout. There is formula\pattern to how it all plays out, and he good at all the stages of the con so that others agree and commit to a deal, while he literally lies about everything.

  • Independent
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    Prediction: After making a grand deal with NK where NK gets everything they want and trump gets to claim victory, trump will make another grand deal with Iran, once again Iran gets everything they want, and trump gets to claim victory.

    However, this prediction is limited this year. Trump will not be president in 2019.

  • Independent
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    ...PS, and the trump's Iran deal will be over 95% the same as Obama's treaty. trump basically will be stealing\plagiarizing the majority of Obama's work, and putting the trump name on it, and claim victory.

    Plan:

    - Cancel Obama's Iran treaty
    - Offer the exact same treaty back to Iran with trivial cosmetic changes.
    - Claim victory as the world's greatest deal maker.

    We elected the biggest dick in history. I don't actually have much of problem with him being such a major dick, its all the the people that want to suck his dick that makes me feel so sick.

    Q: Who is worse, the asshole or the morons that follow him?

    A: The morons that follow him.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    NK will not abandon it's nuclear program. Are we at all surprised? Cancel the meeting of the stupid minds please.
  • Independent
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    I think, just as with the Indonesia deal, that they get everything, as long as he can eventually built a resort in N. Korea or get some other "goodies" in return to make Trump richer. Since Trump loves parades, then N.Korea will offer to train the US troops to march like "robots" and arrange the logistics of the parade Trump wants. In exchange N.Korea can keep all their toys. Wink
  • Strongly Liberal
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    They can't ," keep their toys. They have to give them up along with inspections and monitoring along with diplomatic meetings. None of this will ever happen and if it did the NK would cheat and lie.

    Now the fat idiot just loves cheating and lying. So I would not be surprised if the fat idiot sees this as just another opportunity to create new criminal liasons and new crimes. So he will send his boy to arrange a fake deal .

    South Korea is rife with corruption too , so ...

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Why does Trump keep promising to make NK rich? Is he going to give them all the good paying jobs he promised here while campaigning?
  • Center Left
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    Because to him rich equals good. It's just empty talk for now. He said the entire country will be rich. The most recent con job is all it is.