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    If you need further proof that Trump is Putin's lap dog, read this:

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    Saturday, October 12

    Putin calls for 'illegal' foreign forces to leave Syria

    Russian President Vladimir Putin said foreign military forces "present illegally" inside Syrian territory should leave the country.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/turkey-military-operation-syria-latest-updates-191011060434166.html

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    Then the Turks are there "illegally" too, as well "invaded" an other country. But I guess Putin meant the US.

    Also it is time NATO kicks Turkey out of its pact.

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    President Donald Trump’s erratic behavior is continuing to have devastating effects around the world. In recent days, he abruptly ordered the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria, where they’d been fighting alongside Kurds against ISIS. Now, with the subsequent Turkish invasion of the region that Trump allowed to happen by opening up a void, reports are circulating of some 750 ISIS-affiliated individuals escaping Kurdish detention in the chaos that’s ensued, although the precise number is definitely in question.

    Can this guy get any dumber ?

    https://bipartisanreport.com/2019/10/13/isis-stages-mass-sunday-prison-escape-trump-is-to-blame/

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    The picture below accurately describes Trump's decision on Syria:

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    Here is a quick summary of the key ramifications of Trump's decision:

    1) Pompeo and Pence are traveling to Turkey to negotiate a cease fire

    2) Trump has threatened Turkey with sanctions

    3) Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu says all threats and sanctions against Turkey over Syrian offensive are unacceptable.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/turkey-military-operation-syria-latest-updates-191016063442043.html

    4) our ex-allies, the Kurds, have now struck a deal with Syria's dictator, al-Assad. The pact, brokered by Russia, came hours after the United States announced it was pulling its troops from Syria to avoid getting caught in clashes between the Turkish military and the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

    5) Trump is meeting with congressional leaders at 3:00 today, and opposition Democrats plan to vote on a resolution rebuking his decision to ditch our Kurdish allies.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/trump-meet-congress-leaders-syria-withdrawal-rebuke-191016031609966.html

    6) Turkish president Erdogan has been trying to establish a "safe zone" in northern Syria since 2012. Operation "Peace Spring" is the third major Turkish military operation inside the country since 2016. Before 2016, Erdogan's plans to intervene militarily in Syria were opposed by both the Obama administration and the Turkish military, which the president did not yet have complete control over. Erdogan, as a result, declined to participate in the US-led war against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS), declared by Obama following the fall of Mosul, in the summer of 2014.

    In January 2018, the State Department, under former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, outlined a plan for a long-term US military presence in Syria. He defined four key objectives for the open-ended US military presence in northeast Syria. They included ensuring a lasting defeat of ISIL and al-Qaeda, creating the right conditions for the return of Syrian refugees, curbing Iranian influence in the region and holding UN-supervised elections aimed at securing a new leadership in Damascus. The latent motive behind this strategy, as Tillerson put it, was that the US "cannot repeat the mistake of 2011, where a premature departure from Iraq allowed al-Qaeda to survive and eventually become ISIS".

    Trump was unconcerned. In March 2018, he fired Tillerson and the following month he took almost everyone off guard when he announced the full withdrawal of US troops from Syria.

    Turkey took advantage of this schism within the US administration and opened a direct channel with Trump. Hence, by the end of the six month period, Erdogan had called Trump and received assurances that the US would soon be leaving. Trump was quoted as telling Erdogan during their December 2018 phone call on Syria: "It's all yours. We are done."

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/turkey-peace-spring-changed-dynamics-syria-war-191014165613108.html

    7) as a result of Turkey's invasion, over 700 ISIS prisoners have been released, in direct violation of the key objectives outlined by Tillerson.

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    Our "master negotiator" sure knows how to screw things up.

    A Turkish official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the London-based Middle East Eye that Ankara threw away Trump's letter to Erdogan in the dustbin.

    "We just dumped his letter to the trash," the official said, adding: "The date on the letter is 9 October, the same day we began Operation Peace Spring. Our president gave the best response by launching the operation on the same day at 4 pm."

    Russia questioned the tone of a letter sent by Trump to his Turkish counterpart, describing it as "highly unusual" for correspondence between heads of state.

    The White House on Wednesday released the October 9 letter, in which Trump told Erdogan: "Don't be a tough guy" and "Don't be a fool!"

    "You don't often encounter such language in correspondence between heads of state. It's a highly unusual letter," Dmitry Peskov, a spokesman for the Kremlin, told reporters on a conference call.

    Meanwhile back in D.C.:

    Trump met members of Congress at the White House on Wednesday to discuss Turkey and Syria.

    Democrats say Trump insulted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, calling her a "third-rate politician." Democratic leaders left shortly afterwards.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/turkey-military-operation-syria-latest-updates-191017051518215.html

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    Trump's "favorite dictator" just won the first round.

    Although Mike Pence negotiated a 120 hour cease fire, the deal gave Erdogan exactly what he wanted - removal of the Kurdish forces from the border "safe zone." In addition, the deal gives Turkey relief from sanctions the administration had imposed and threatened to impose since the invasion began, meaning there will be no penalty for the operation.

    https://azdailysun.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/turkey-agrees-to-cease-fire-that-would-protect-us-allied/article_b42fbd21-e0c1-57e9-99c6-1f96e22f6410.html#utm_source=azdailysun.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Fbreaking&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=45a94b82f74e4877b12ff5f0b84f4d821d8882aa

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    If anyone wants a straight forward, easy to understand how and why things went down in Syira, all that is needed is to watch the first 10 minutes of the original Godfather movie. Seriously, is all laid out in the movie. Individuals come to "The Godfather" to ask for a favor, the Godfather grants them the favor without getting anything immediate in return but "Someday, the godfather may come to you, asking you to return that favor, but until that days comes, he now has your loyalty". aka you're now on the Godfather's team.

    In this case, Trump grants Turkey their wish, and now they owe Donald Trump a favor . Its was not the US that pulled out of Syria, it was Donald Trump that gave the order. Trump took advantage of a situation to gain future control over Turkey. And like in the movie, when the Godfather asked for a returned favor, he expects 100% cooperation, no questions asked, and the favor will be to break the law at their risk, not his. When trump calls next time, will be asking Turkey to do\say things that will benefit him personally, no matter what it costs Turkey or anyone else.

    aka

    Giuliani : "Donald Trump has this problem, and wants your help make it disappear"

    Turkey Pres: "Of course, what would he like me to do"

    Giuliani: "Like I said, he wants it to disappear. So just make it disappear. Planes crash into ocean all the time and are never found, there are all sorts of way to make problems disappear."

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    Is this a trial run to a sudden and immediate pullout of South Korea? Trump ordering that all military assets be left behind, and all US troops be out in 10 days no matter what it might cost.

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    You know, I cannot find the words to describe what is going on with this Trump administration...unbelievable kakistocracy. Trump's favorite words are, "we'll see what happens." He does not have the intellectual capacity to see beyond the moment. No matter the result, (we'll see what happens) he feels he can always spin the news to make himself look like a genius. One of the worst "deals" of his presidency he is now touting as a great deal. As per the NYT:

    “I’m happy to report tremendous success with respect to Turkey,” Mr. Trump told reporters after his vice president and secretary of state announced the deal. “This is an amazing outcome. This is an outcome, regardless of how the press would like to damp it down, this was something they were trying to get for 10 years.”

    Huh?

    We'll see what happens...

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    Future WP headline: Today everyone was shocked when Trump announces he is selling back Alaska to Russia for $10 million, calling to the deal of century. All Alaskans have 30 days to leave or they loose US Citizenship.

    Absurd? Never will happen? Maybe, but if you give a sincere look at Trump's escalation pattern, the pattern never drops, never dips, or stabilize for a few days, it is a never ending escalation. It's a bit like a gambler who gambles until ALL casinos cut him off. He will never stop doubling down. Never. And it easy to double down when gambling with the lives and money of other people. He is the guy that not only goes bankrupt, he bankrupts his entire family, friends, and neighbors.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Huh?

    Yeah, that is exactly what everyone, including Fox news has been asking over the past 12 hours. If Fox news is starting to question Trump ability to make decisions, Trump has long past crossing the line.

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    Pence thought he had made the biggest peace deal ever; but yeah it was all an big lie, Turkey said it is only an "pause" but not an cease fire. Nothing has changed. Pence and Pompeo are just about the dumbest asses ever. They are still fighting and continue with their objective to drive the Kurds out. Thanks Trump and his stupid cronies who have no clue at all on how to govern or how the world works.
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    Apparently Rick Santorum and I think alike.

    “He has really stepped in it,” Santorum said on CNN on Thursday night. “This was a poor decision, this is having really startling ? even startling to him ? consequences.”

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    Santorum was referring to Trump's decision to pull our troops out of Syria, saying that it will cost Trump a lot of Republican votes, and will likely doom his 2020 re-election effort.

    Ominously, even Mitch McConnell said that withdrawing from Syria "is a grave mistake".

    This morning's Washington Post also published the fact that a "growing number of Republicans struggle to defend Trump on G-7 choice, Ukraine, and Syria". One Republican, Rep. Francis Rooney of Florida, compared the situation to Watergate and did not rule out voting to impeach President Trump.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rick-santorum-donald-trump-2020_n_5da94972e4b0e71d65b67f06

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    Last night, MSM reported that because the American security forces pulled back, Turkey shelling has led to a humanitarian crisis. This sounds familiar with trump, he created a humanitarian crisis at our own border with Mexico. It would seem that trumps enjoys watching people suffer unnecessarily.
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    Yesterday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and a bipartisan delegation of American lawmakers has visited Jordan to discuss "the deepening crisis" in Syria amid a shaky U.S.-brokered cease-fire. Jordan News Agency says Abdullah stressed in the meeting the importance of safeguarding Syria's territorial integrity.

    Turkey has demanded both Kurdish and Syrian government forces withdraw from a designated border zone.

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ml-mideast-pelosi/2019/10/20/id/937835/?ns_mail_uid=55284481-e237-4dcf-a870-3b9d22910c8d&ns_mail_job=DM58855_10202019&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102gp13qf