Forum Thread

Students' March for our Lives

Reply to ThreadDisplaying 1 - 15 of 47 1 2 3 4 Next
  • Schmidt
    2018-03-24 01:59:45 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    I've been watching the future generation of voters marching and making eloquent speeches in Washington D.C. and across the country. There are some 800 marches planned around the globe in support. Some of the speakers are very young -- 11 years old -- but they share a common theme of having lost a loved one due to gun violence. Inspiring. Makes me feel good that our future is in great hands.

    The NYT says "hundreds of thousands attending". Well I don't really know but it sure looks to me like more than attended Trump's inauguration. For sure! Believe me!

  • Schmidt
    2018-03-24 02:09:56 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Miley Cyrus was singing earlier and now Ariana Grande. They have some big stars supporting them on stage.

  • Schmidt
    2018-03-24 04:29:04 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    While I was impressed with all the speeches I watched, perhaps the most powerful moment was the stern faced Emma Gonzalez with her tattered jeans standing on the stage all alone with tears coming down her face during a 6 minutes and 20 second moment of silence that she called for --- the time it took for the shooter to murder 17 of her classmates and teachers.

    The AP estimated the crowd at 800,000 and they stood quiet for the most part while Emma stood tall looking over the massive crowd.

    These are teenagers showing a maturity well beyond their young years.

  • Dockadams
    2018-03-24 04:46:18 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    This movement might be what it takes to bring about change, in 1970, a massacre occurred at Kent State University, in which college students were protesting the Vietnam War. While the National Guard did kill college students and wounded several more, it was seen in America as young people protesting for a just cause, just as this new movement might turn out to be for gun control. We'll see in the near future if lawmakers are paying attention or if they're ignoring future voters. Change right now is necessary.
  • Schmidt
    2018-03-24 04:54:05 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    What 800,000 looks like...

  • Schmidt
    2018-03-24 05:55:33 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Yes I remember the Kent State shootings well. According to these eye witness accounts in Wikipedia, the National Guard members were not in any immediate danger. Most all those shot or wounded were over a hundreds yards from the troops. The four killed were ages 19 and 20 all in good standing at the university.

    It was a volatile and polarizing time in America, with much of the public was evenly split on staying versus withdrawing from Vietnam.

  • Schmidt
    2018-03-24 06:27:29 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    MSN News: Emma Gonzalez's March for Our Lives Speech Will Hit You Hard

    She had a moment of silence lasting 6 minutes and 20 seconds in between her poignant words.

    Update -- The 6 minutes, 20 sec included her opening tribute to the fallen students. The actual silence time was 4 min 26 seconds as per the NYT. Whatever---it sure seemed long at the time.

  • TJ
    2018-03-25 08:10:43 AM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    I am just catching up to yesterday's details but it is exciting and of major importance. Young people getting involved, making their voices heard and vowing to vote out political whores who were purchased by the NRA. It's a start to a movement that I hope continues to grow.
  • Schmidt
    2018-03-25 08:31:10 AM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Four million Americans are turning 18 this year and will be eligible to vote for the first time. But if the organizers can get many of the 19-29 year olds to vote for the first time, that could be an even bigger impact on both the 2018 and 2020 elections. It's a tough mountain to climb. I tried and largely failed in my attempts to register young voters let alone get them to vote. Bernie Sanders certainly made an impact, but without Bernie on the ticket they may lose interest as evidenced by the low young people turn-out at the Colorado caucuses earlier this month.

    Also, the 18 year olds high schoolers may have different motives and passions than many of the "20 somethings" who have already entered the work force. The changing demographics of voters are difficult to keep up with, but in my opinion one issue voters including anti-Trump voters will be unreliable long term voters for either party. Our democracy requires voters to vote intelligently on a whole host of issues and candidates, and not just succumb to special interests, litmus tests, tribalism or worse yet apathy.

    Where there is ignorance , there will be savvy politicians ready to exploit that ignorance....on both sides.

  • Dutch
    2018-03-25 08:49:52 AM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Yes, it shows that the "kids" have more brains than our "leaders" as well still have "feelings" . Our "great" leader played golf.

    The kid who "barfed" really showed the emotions in an country without "emotions" especially our politicians , who are more interested in the NRA "money" donations than "dead" kids. I hope these kids will be heard. However when I saw what Rubio said, I lost confidence immediately. But yeah our leader wants only more and more killing tools and "walls" so we can "bully" the world. Sick to the bone; bring the barf bucket.

  • TJ
    2018-03-25 10:48:18 AM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    17 - 19, 20 - 23, etc.... People share their concerns and defend the reasons for their beliefs. The millions of casual conversations and social media comments are vital if it results in voting. People want to believe that they can make things better. I am hopeful that is manifested in real election results.

    Look around. We are the change. That was a powerful comment I heard in footage from yesterday. A strong party would harness that enthusiasm with non manipulative support.

    These times they are a changing.

  • Dutch
    2018-03-25 10:48:42 AM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Schmidt Wrote:

    Four million Americans are turning 18 this year and will be eligible to vote for the first time. But if the organizers can get many of the 19-29 year olds to vote for the first time, that could be an even bigger impact on both the 2018 and 2020 elections. It's a tough mountain to climb. I tried and largely failed in my attempts to register young voters let alone get them to vote. Bernie Sanders certainly made an impact, but without Bernie on the ticket they may lose interest as evidenced by the low young people turn-out at the Colorado caucuses earlier this month.

    Also, the 18 year olds high schoolers may have different motives and passions than many of the "20 somethings" who have already entered the work force. The changing demographics of voters are difficult to keep up with, but in my opinion one issue voters including anti-Trump voters will be unreliable long term voters for either party. Our democracy requires voters to vote intelligently on a whole host of issues and candidates, and not just succumb to special interests, litmus tests, tribalism or worse yet apathy.

    Where there is ignorance , there will be savvy politicians ready to exploit that ignorance....on both sides.

    Yes Schmidt, it is the culture here which drives things; also these kids will be subject to "propaganda" like FOX News, as well their parents if they are Republican. The worst part is the "capitalistic upbringing" here. "Money" in an capitalistic culture will "form" them. "Greed" will form them as well. Therefore only an "cultural" change will help this country. Evangelicals makes such even more difficult, because they are "indoctrinated" and support our "dictator" who has no decency or any norms or culture. A super con-man bully as president is not an good example for our youth to follow.

    The "mess" we are in has its effect on all the people here; like was said this morning by Rience Priebus that the "mess" in the W.H. is actually is 50 times greater than the public knows.

  • TJ
    2018-03-25 12:28:06 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    Good lyrics. I saw a Facebook posting about the students march from yesterday. It played a different version of this song. It resonates with me.

  • Chet Ruminski
    2018-03-25 01:22:03 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    What sets this call to action apart from other policy proposals is not gun control, however, but the research-based approach to violence prevention and response. This is a long haul, say the experts, not a quick fix.

    "No matter what you try to do by just hardening the target, we've learned that having the armed officers isn't necessarily going to stop it," says Matthew Mayer at Rutgers. "Having the metal detector or the locked doors isn't going to stop it. The hard work is a lot more effort. You'd better start thinking in a more comprehensive manner about prevention instead of reacting."

    /sections/ed/2018/03/07/590877717/experts-say-here-s-how-to-prevent-the-next-school-shooting

    Why isn't there a call to action on all proposals? Metal detectors and guards and the above approach.

  • Dockadams
    2018-03-25 01:49:21 PM
    Not Logged In
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    TJ Wrote:

    17 - 19, 20 - 23, etc.... People share their concerns and defend the reasons for their beliefs. The millions of casual conversations and social media comments are vital if it results in voting. People want to believe that they can make things better. I am hopeful that is manifested in real election results.

    Look around. We are the change. That was a powerful comment I heard in footage from yesterday. A strong party would harness that enthusiasm with non manipulative support.

    These times they are a changing.

    The NRA spokesman would say that liberals are using those very people you're writing about.

    Like they don't do the same thing with conservatives by claiming they are pro second amendment. The dummy in Florida (LittleMarco) already stated that the marchers are infringing against second amendment supporters.

    Marco Rubio:"I respect their views and recognize that many Americans support certain gun bans. However, many other Americans do not support a gun ban. They too want to prevent mass shootings, but view banning guns as an infringement on the Second Amendment rights of law abiding citizens that ultimately will not prevent these tragedies"

    usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/0...

    IMO, this is why the March for our Lives people should get a platform to rewrite or amend the second amendment, because without a platform or an end result, they won't accomplish very much in gun control. That was part of the problem with the OWS protestors, they did not have an objective. The March for our lives crowd needs to set an agenda and an objective, not to just say they want gun control, which is very widely interpreted.

Reply to ThreadDisplaying 1 - 15 of 47 1 2 3 4 Next