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    wwjd Wrote:

    What is interesting about the firing of Shulkin was that earlier in the day, trump and Shulkin has phone call about the status of VA. It was later that day Shulkin was informed by John Kelley that trump was going to fire him. Trump didn't fire him face to face, or even over the phone. He was fired via a public tweet announce a new head of the VA.

    A little known fact: Trump has only fired a person to face to face on The Aprentice. All trump employees of Trump inc, have been fired by someone else. Since becoming president, he never fired anyone to their face or over the phone.

    In big business, strong ethical leaders of any organization fire their direct reports face to face. Only cowards hand the job over to someone else.

    Then there must be quite a few unethical businesses out there because I have seen and heard of employees being fired via email. Trouble is with email, is that the email was circulated to all employees in the department, yeah, pretty low down and dirty for sure, but employers giving a shit about their workers went out the window about 25 years ago, or more. There's hardly any loyalty either way anymore. Oooops, there's that L word again.
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    TJ Wrote:

    He wasn't a fan of privatizing the VA.

    Next man up.....

    Well, I just dunno man, when pressed by Judy Woodruff on the PBS Newshour last night, Shulkin seemed to be backpeddling on statements he'd made to other press/media organizations, it's like he told one story critical of the trump organization immediately after being fired via tweet, then changed his story later in the day, like he couldn't say anything bad about trump....maybe trump threatened Shulkin to keep his moth shut or else, you know, he does have a way with dealing with people he disses in public.
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    Dockadams Wrote:Then there must be quite a few unethical businesses out there because I have seen and heard of employees being fired via email. Trouble is with email, is that the email was circulated to all employees in the department, yeah, pretty low down and dirty for sure, but employers giving a shit about their workers went out the window about 25 years ago, or more. There's hardly any loyalty either way anymore. Oooops, there's that L word again.


    There are plenty of A-holes who think and act like trump, and I have worked with a few of them in my career. My point is that strong leaders will handle confrontation face to face, and its the cowards like trump that are unable to fire their direct reports themselves, they have someone else do it.

    My perception is at the core of trump's personality is very insecure person, and everything he says, does, thinks, starts from his core personality traits... As an example, I bet he hates being around young children in a room of adults because the children naturally get more attention from other adults, thus less attention for trump. trump needs to be center of attention at all times, in all situations. Trump needs to the be the STAR of all social sitations, and hates being upstaged by even little kids.

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    Oh of course. I have never known or seen a president or elected official act in the manner in which trump does. I'll be clear about another thing while we're on the subject of reality shows, I never have watched any, I never ever liked or cared for trump's reality shows, his apprentice garbage or any of that king of programming.

    I believe we're in agreement that trump absolutely has to be the winner and center of attention, and that everyone else is just crap cast to the side.

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    Here is a tidbit about trump's "The Apprentice" that is not well known. The winner is selected in advance before filming starts. The show is about firing the other 15 people who were selected to be on the show because they had traits and behaviors that often get people fired. The 15 people are not runners ups or even close. They likely didn't even break the top 500 applicants for being selected as the Winner. They of course all believe they have a chance to win based 0n how they perform, but they don't know the entire show is rigged.

    And to make it even more interesting, trump didn't even get to determine what order the 15 people got fired. The producers decided the order of the firings based on what they have scripted and how interesting the people are on camera. trump was nothing more than the frontman, just there to say "You're Fired" and make other harsh\witty comments; he had no control over the show. Notice, trump's name is not even in the title of the show; its "The Apprentice", the show is not titled "Trump's Apprentice". If he had any control over the show, his name would be in the title because he is that vain. I bet he even fought over the show's name, but lost the fight.

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    wwjd Wrote:
    ... I bet he hates being around young children in a room of adults because the children naturally get more attention from other adults, thus less attention for trump. trump needs to be center of attention at all times, in all situations. Trump needs to the be the STAR of all social sitations, and hates being upstaged by even little kids.

    I've heard it suggested that he has Histrionic Personality Disorder, which is a personality disorder where you desperately need attention, and where negative attention is better than no attention at all. Seems to fit, though I'm no shrink.


    The winner is selected in advance before filming starts.

    Minor point I guess but how do you know this?

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    Ray Pooch Wrote:


    The winner is selected in advance before filming starts.

    Minor point I guess but how do you know this?

    In college I majored in Film\TV production, so I have interest in such things going back decades. When the show first appeared, I took it face value and thought each week a person was eliminated for have screwed up. Then I asked myself "What is keeping trump from deciding weeks in advance on who he wanted to hire, yet the there were several more weeks of filming?". I started doing research on how "Reality TV" really works. And as a general statement, reality TV is more like watching a magic act that creates an illusion for the audience to believe they are watching is reality, when if fact they are watching a carefully control sequence of events (plus editing of footage). The pawns, or stooges, are the people selected to be on the show. They are do not know how the show really works, they just put into situations\competitions and allowed, for the most part, to be themselves. The reality in Reality TV is that people are allowed to be themselves within the very limited\controll context of the show.

    Anyway, to answer your question, somewhere during my research, I found information about how The Apprentice worked. Now it possible it doesn't work 100% as I described because often Reality TV show change over time, and modify the forumula\tricks they use. One alternate possibility is that The Apprentice is a competition between two people who are selected as the finalists before filming stars, and the producers (and trump) make a final choice at the end. All 16 players think they have a chance to win, but in reality, its only two who were pre-selected. This version just a modification of the original explanation I provided in the previous post.

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    I would have assumed that the producers did some pre-determination of the rough plot line. So they cast someone who they figure will appeal to the audience to give the folks someone to root for. And they cast someone obnoxious that the audience will hate. And they cast someone stupid that the audience will do face palms. And they cast someone sneaky, and someone hot, and someone who is book smart but doesn't know how to read people, and so on. The plan is, roughly, to ensure that the hero figure gets close to the end, and ditto the villain, because that's the tension that will carry the show, but otherwise to let the chips fall wherever.

    However, if something else catches fire, they will run with it. E.g. if someone else is a surprisingly charismatic entrant, if two players fall in love, etc, they will milk it for all that it is worth.

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    Ray Pooch Wrote:

    However, if something else catches fire, they will run with it. E.g. if someone else is a surprisingly charismatic entrant, if two players fall in love, etc, they will milk it for all that it is worth.


    That is part of the formula in most reality shows, they allow things to happen naturally between people, and alter their plans accordingly. Often they have multiple backup ideas\plans because they do cast people who are unpredictable and create good TV.

    While The Apprentice has a predetermined winner (or a couple of options), the winner of Survivor is not controlled by the producers. What happens on survivor is that they profile the hell out of people in advance, and select about 4 people who have the winning skills\personalities, and the rest of the cast are entertaining personalities that will either help or hurt the ultimate winner. It always possible one of 4 does not win, and someone unexpected wins, which has happened at least a couple of times. After 18 years, the producers have refined their casting skills, so they rarely are wrong anymore.

    Also, shows like The Apprentice and Survivor are edited after all filming is completed, thus they can even further increase the entertainment value focusing on key people and event that foreshadow things to come. Reality TV is not a documentary. If the winner is major sexist asshole that loves to grab boobs, and constantly hitting on women, the producers can decide to include that side of his personality, or drop it completely. Each episode is about 42 minutes long, thus only a small percentage of footage gets on air, and most of what is filmed lays on the cutting room floor.

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    It is Black Friday, and Friday April 13th. This is going to be a very bad weekend for somebody connected trump.

    The FBI raided Cohen's office\home\etc, and now has everything they need related to trump. IMHO, this was Muellers last big move (handled by NY state), knowing after the raiding Cohen Office, trump will become unhinged and start firing people and pardoning key witnesses, but it will be too late because the FBI already got the evidence they need.

    People are going to pay with their career coming by the end of this weekend.

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    Yes it was Friday the 13th. Trump could not wait any longer thus bombed Syria. The news said that there were more Tomahawks dropped then last year; thus the "cost" was also double.(about 50 million at least) Result "0". So was it only diversion tactics from the "shit" he's in? The war in Syria likely continues if nothing happened anyway. Even Trump did not get any benefit out of it, except may be it tempered his tantrum a bit. I bet that Drumpf has become the most expensive President in history. It is time to change the "laws" for Presidents here in a hurry; give him/her less power as well contain the travel and luxury costs; for instance drive him around in a "beetle" with only one body guard. For International travel he should be flying coach on Aeroflot or Icelandair; locally to Mar-a-Lago on "Easyjet" or our "high speed train" which we don't have. Wink
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    Interesting. Rumor, fake news or fact? John Kelly soon to be looking for a new job somewhere? Supposedly, he called his boss an idiot. I agree.

    msn.com/en-us/news/politics/john-kelly-...

    But of course he want's to hang in there, he denies ever saying it.