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  • Brooks, AB
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    Dutch Wrote: Asshole Ross said Trump will go on with the "tariff" war, even if the stock market crashes. How sick can you get. He now scolds NATO. Anyway he's loosing it in a big way and no one stops him. What a country!

    Dutch. Don't get me wrong here. Some people don't like this style of politics. Other people love it. Regardless, this style was well evident on the campaign trail, so we shouldn't be too surprised that it is happening after the campaign.

    For those of us who don't like this kind of style, it is time to consider a new system that won't allow people like Mr. Trump and Ms. Clinton to rise too high.

    If we keep the current system, we should expect other populist political leaders.

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    Dave Volek Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: Asshole Ross said Trump will go on with the "tariff" war, even if the stock market crashes. How sick can you get. He now scolds NATO. Anyway he's loosing it in a big way and no one stops him. What a country!

    Dutch. Don't get me wrong here. Some people don't like this style of politics. Other people love it. Regardless, this style was well evident on the campaign trail, so we shouldn't be too surprised that it is happening after the campaign.

    For those of us who don't like this kind of style, it is time to consider a new system that won't allow people like Mr. Trump and Ms. Clinton to rise too high.

    If we keep the current system, we should expect other populist political leaders.

    Dave, this has nothing to do with "style"; if you elect an total uneducated person who only dealt with the NY "mob" then this country is asking for, that it will be doomed. Of course there is also an huge part of the country which is uneducated and of course they love it, because he sinks to their level, but they never realize the consequences. You can't run a country with just an Warton school certificate "bought" for you by your Daddy and escaped fighting in Vietnam because of a fake sore foot . Also Daddy (an KKK member) made sure he's a racist and that he had enough money gotten from Daddy to corrupt the NY real estate business. So how does such a person get into the White House? First by not "vetting" such a person properly (Mueller is doing that now afterwards) Furthermore, most of the population (in the central part of the country as well the ex-slave area's and the northern part) here; lives on an uneducated inbred island; likely the only education they get is from the church, so they are then completely indoctrinated. Just like Trump, he reads nothing, does not analyse anything (neither does not know how to do such); does not know the history of the world, let alone knows what the world around the US is all about and how it operates. Dumb creates "dumb".
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    Mr. Tariffs (Ross) has a lot to hide just as corrupt as his "boss:

    l.php

  • Brooks, AB
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Dave, this has nothing to do with "style"; if you elect an total uneducated person who only dealt with the NY "mob" then this country is asking for, that it will be doomed. Of course there is also an huge part of the country which is uneducated and of course they love it, because he sinks to their level, but they never realize the consequences. You can't run a country with just an Warton school certificate "bought" for you by your Daddy and escaped fighting in Vietnam because of a fake sore foot . Also Daddy (an KKK member) made sure he's a racist and that he had enough money gotten from Daddy to corrupt the NY real estate business. So how does such a person get into the White House? First by not "vetting" such a person properly (Mueller is doing that now afterwards) Furthermore, most of the population (in the central part of the country as well the ex-slave area's and the northern part) here; lives on an uneducated inbred island; likely the only education they get is from the church, so they are then completely indoctrinated. Just like Trump, he reads nothing, does not analyse anything (neither does not know how to do such); does not know the history of the world, let alone knows what the world around the US is all about and how it operates. Dumb creates "dumb".

    Mr. Trump has an unconventional style to politics. We saw it in his private life. We saw it in the campaign. We see it in the White House. This style was not hidden in any way. 30% of Americans seem to like it.

    And he seems to have an edge somehow. Most other politicians would have seen their political career stall with some the stuff Mr. Trump is doing. I can't say I understand this edge.

    As for "vetting", it is important to realize that political parties are not screening processes to find the better people to govern us. If we are expecting otherwise, we should call ourselves "foolish." If anything, the combative nature of party politics scares many capable people away from the process.

    If the goal is to ensure people like Mr. Trump and Ms. Clinton not to rise too high, I have a solution for that. But the world is not ready for that solution.

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    Dave, I've got also a solution for that; but I won't mention it; however for my solution about 70% of the world is ready for that.
  • Brooks, AB
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    Dutch Wrote: Dave, I've got also a solution for that; but I won't mention it; however for my solution about 70% of the world is ready for that.

    I would like to hear it. Maybe a new post somewhere?

    I see you have been on this site for some time, and you may have already done this. I don't think it would hurt to put it up again.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    China retaliating today with tariffs on our stuff, everybody get ready to pay more for nearly everything we buy. Automobiles will probably see the first rise in prices.
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    Dockadams Wrote: China retaliating today with tariffs on our stuff, everybody get ready to pay more for nearly everything we buy. Automobiles will probably see the first rise in prices.

    Yes, stupid Trump and his stupid advisers probably don't realize that also all GM, Ford, Tesla, Chrysler is affected. About half of the parts for those cars come from somewhere else ; even the machines to stamp the metal or factory robots are not made here. Let alone all the displays and electronics in these cars, likely come from China.

    But yeah Trump never went to school; if so he went there only to "bully".

  • Liberal Democrat
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    As per NBC News, China deploys army of farmers in tit-for-tat trade war with U.S.

    Prior to Trump's tariff war, China was the world's biggest buyer of American soybeans, "importing some $14 billion last year — or about two-thirds of American farm exports to China". Now the Chinese farmers are really happy with the Trump tariff war because the Chinese government is offering them subsidies ranging from $190 to $320 per acre, compared to $150 previously. Chinese farmers are going all in converting their fields to growing soybeans. Instead of the government relying on "cheap imports of soybeans from the USA" they are proudly embarking on a "made in China" campaign.

    To cover short term demand the Chinese have also reduced the tariffs to zero on soybeans from India, Bangladesh and other Asian countries.

    The bottom line is that the Iowa soybean farmers have permanently lost their market to China. They will simply have to convert their fields from growing soybeans to something else...corn perhaps. Or maybe find new buyers on the world market as India and Asian countries shift their exports to China.

    While the short term shifts in markets will hurt them, no one will notice after a year. And the Iowa farmers will just keep voting for Donald Trump in 2020. As some victims of Trump's tariff war have stated, "his heart is in the right place."

  • Brooks, AB
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    While the short term shifts in markets will hurt them, no one will notice after a year. And the Iowa farmers will just keep voting for Donald Trump in 2020. As some victims of Trump's tariff war have stated, "his heart is in the right place."

    Schmidt: CBC had a documentary on Canadian farmers trying to export to India. It seems India has a variable soybean crop, mostly because of weather. In times of good weather, the Indian government puts high tariffs on Canadian soybeans to protect the Indian farmers from going out of business. In times of drought, the tariffs were lifted so that the people had cheap food.

    I can understand the Indian government's stand on this unfair trade practice. If it allows the free market to prevail, the Canadian growers could put the Indian growers out of business. But Canadian growers can find other customers or maybe they run into a batch of bad weather. So India loses ability to feed itself.

    The international soybean is very complicated. I don't think China can depend on India for this commodity. And if China puts land into soybeans, it will lose out on other crops.

    But I agree, the average soybean farmer will still vote for Trump for disrupting markets. But then again, there will be a round of subsidies of some kind to protect the wealthy livelihood of these farmers.

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    Dave Volek Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote:

    While the short term shifts in markets will hurt them, no one will notice after a year. And the Iowa farmers will just keep voting for Donald Trump in 2020. As some victims of Trump's tariff war have stated, "his heart is in the right place."

    Schmidt: CBC had a documentary on Canadian farmers trying to export to India. It seems India has a variable soybean crop, mostly because of weather. In times of good weather, the Indian government puts high tariffs on Canadian soybeans to protect the Indian farmers from going out of business. In times of drought, the tariffs were lifted so that the people had cheap food.

    I can understand the Indian government's stand on this unfair trade practice. If it allows the free market to prevail, the Canadian growers could put the Indian growers out of business. But Canadian growers can find other customers or maybe they run into a batch of bad weather. So India loses ability to feed itself.

    The international soybean is very complicated. I don't think China can depend on India for this commodity. And if China puts land into soybeans, it will lose out on other crops.

    But I agree, the average soybean farmer will still vote for Trump for disrupting markets. But then again, there will be a round of subsidies of some kind to protect the wealthy livelihood of these farmers.

    Exactly as you say; likely Trump will indeed provide subsidies to make sure that they keep voting for him.
  • Brooks, AB
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Dave Volek Wrote:

    But I agree, the average soybean farmer will still vote for Trump for disrupting markets. But then again, there will be a round of subsidies of some kind to protect the wealthy livelihood of these farmers.

    Exactly as you say; likely Trump will indeed provide subsidies to make sure that they keep voting for him.
    Subsidy for agriculture to get votes has been going on for a long time. We can't blame Mr. Trump for that. It's time for a new system!
  • Brooks, AB
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    Or maybe I should say that agricultural subsidies actually find their way in the coffers of political parties, which helps win party nominations and general elections. Farmers just don't have as many votes as they used to have.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    When agriculture producers get fed up with tariffs, and continually lose money, their next option to make up those losses will be subsidies or payoffs from our dear government. Farmers receive huge amounts of money to not grow certain things like corn, soybeans and wheat, some farmers are paid subsidies from Uncle Sam for dairy, since dairy farmers have an ongoing war with Canada over dairy prices. American dairy farmers have or are the problem, too much milk. Some American dairy farms have gone out of business.
  • Independent
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    Of course all Ivanka's "stuff" has been cleared of any tariff's. That is how it works here! Love those Trump crooks.