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The Heavy Dense Fog of Extreme Religiosity

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    Ever so often, in the hours of early morning in southern Alabama, a heavy dense fog moves in, so dense that I can barely make out, outside my window, the leaves of the huge bush that is less than two feet from my window.

    It came to me, one morning, that this blinding fog was a perfect metaphor for the extreme religiosity of the State of Alabama. An Alabaman cannot turn around without invoking Jesus Christ and his blessing. All the public meetings I've gone to have been opened with an entreaty for the blessing of Jesus for those gathered and sometimes these prayers of solicitation can go on for a bit.

    But, for all those, I suppose, sincere solicitations for the good will of God, Alabama is one of the most corrupt states in our nation, once boasting at the same time good old damned crooked Mike Hubbard as Speaker of the Alabama House of Representatives, (Alabama be damned and its low standards for conduct, Hubbard is actually in prison for his misdeeds), foolishly philandering Alabama Governor Robert Bentley who walked right into the beguiling and adulterous snares of Rebekah Mason, even though Bentley was a Sunday school teacher and Deacon at First Baptist of Tuscaloosa, (by the way, Alabama is profoundly Baptist and you gotta wonder what the devil kind of values the Baptists teach), and then, there is the Alabama piece de resistance, Roy Moore.

    And, the only reason why Alabama managed to get rid of Roy Moore is the fierce determination of Alabama Black women got out and voted and who were the only women decent enough to tell Roy Moore most vehemently "No!" Every damned white woman was saying, "Roy Moore MAY have done wrong but I ain't voting for no Democrat. Only Republicans have the blessing of God in Alabama."

    You gotta kinda think that the Alabamans' true god must be that fallen angel who is also known as Satan. There can be no other explanation for the weird political situation in Alabama.

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    Karen Hedwig Backm Wrote:

    Ever so often, in the hours of early morning in southern Alabama, a heavy dense fog moves in, so dense that I can barely make out, outside my window, the leaves of the huge bush that is less than two feet from my window.

    It came to me, one morning, that this blinding fog was a perfect metaphor for the extreme religiosity of the State of Alabama. An Alabaman cannot turn around without invoking Jesus Christ and his blessing. All the public meetings I've gone to have been opened with an entreaty for the blessing of Jesus for those gathered and sometimes these prayers of solicitation can go on for a bit.

    But, for all those, I suppose, sincere solicitations for the good will of God, Alabama is one of the most corrupt states in our nation, once boasting at the same time good old damned crooked Mike Hubbard as Speaker of the Alabama House of Representatives, (Alabama be damned and its low standards for conduct, Hubbard is actually in prison for his misdeeds), foolishly philandering Alabama Governor Robert Bentley who walked right into the beguiling and adulterous snares of Rebekah Mason, even though Bentley was a Sunday school teacher and Deacon at First Baptist of Tuscaloosa, (by the way, Alabama is profoundly Baptist and you gotta wonder what the devil kind of values the Baptists teach), and then, there is the Alabama piece de resistance, Roy Moore.

    And, the only reason why Alabama managed to get rid of Roy Moore is the fierce determination of Alabama Black women got out and voted and who were the only women decent enough to tell Roy Moore most vehemently "No!" Every damned white woman was saying, "Roy Moore MAY have done wrong but I ain't voting for no Democrat. Only Republicans have the blessing of God in Alabama."

    You gotta kinda think that the Alabamans' true god must be that fallen angel who is also known as Satan. There can be no other explanation for the weird political situation in Alabama.

    Fog? They know precisely what they are doing. I call them religionists. They are not Christians. Instead they seek to impose religious law on the country. Pence is one of them. As a part of their agitprop they claim that there is a war on Christianity much like the Nazis claimed that the Jews ran everything. These people must be fought on every front. For me the shot fired was the Hobby Lobby decision.
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    lonely bird Wrote:
    Karen Hedwig Backm Wrote:

    Ever so often, in the hours of early morning in southern Alabama, a heavy dense fog moves in, so dense that I can barely make out, outside my window, the leaves of the huge bush that is less than two feet from my window.

    It came to me, one morning, that this blinding fog was a perfect metaphor for the extreme religiosity of the State of Alabama. An Alabaman cannot turn around without invoking Jesus Christ and his blessing. All the public meetings I've gone to have been opened with an entreaty for the blessing of Jesus for those gathered and sometimes these prayers of solicitation can go on for a bit.

    But, for all those, I suppose, sincere solicitations for the good will of God, Alabama is one of the most corrupt states in our nation, once boasting at the same time good old damned crooked Mike Hubbard as Speaker of the Alabama House of Representatives, (Alabama be damned and its low standards for conduct, Hubbard is actually in prison for his misdeeds), foolishly philandering Alabama Governor Robert Bentley who walked right into the beguiling and adulterous snares of Rebekah Mason, even though Bentley was a Sunday school teacher and Deacon at First Baptist of Tuscaloosa, (by the way, Alabama is profoundly Baptist and you gotta wonder what the devil kind of values the Baptists teach), and then, there is the Alabama piece de resistance, Roy Moore.

    And, the only reason why Alabama managed to get rid of Roy Moore is the fierce determination of Alabama Black women got out and voted and who were the only women decent enough to tell Roy Moore most vehemently "No!" Every damned white woman was saying, "Roy Moore MAY have done wrong but I ain't voting for no Democrat. Only Republicans have the blessing of God in Alabama."

    You gotta kinda think that the Alabamans' true god must be that fallen angel who is also known as Satan. There can be no other explanation for the weird political situation in Alabama.

    Fog? They know precisely what they are doing. I call them religionists. They are not Christians. Instead they seek to impose religious law on the country. Pence is one of them. As a part of their agitprop they claim that there is a war on Christianity much like the Nazis claimed that the Jews ran everything. These people must be fought on every front. For me the shot fired was the Hobby Lobby decision.
    Like I've said in an other thread; the fanatic "evangelicals" here want the same as what the Muslims (ISIS) did ; Christian rule all over including the government, schools as well dictatorship from the church.
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    Crooks and Liars: Alabama Republican: We Can Stop School Shootings With The Ten Commandments

    Alabama Republican state senator Gerald Dial wants a state referendum to allow the displaying of the Ten Commandments in public schools to protect kids from mass shootings.

    "I believe that if you had the Ten Commandments posted in a prominent place in school, it has the possibility to prohibit some student from taking action to kill other students," Dial said.

    "If this bill stops one school shooting in Alabama, just one, then it's worth the time and effort we're putting into it," Dial said according to Chip Brownlee at Alabama Political Reporter.

    We should not take these initiatives lightly. These people absolutely believe in their faith. It is a part of their upbringing from birth and reinforced by family and friends in the community. They live in a bubble, not unlike the bubble of those who live in North Korea and see Kim Jung-un as their savior.

    It is nothing new. In Plato's Allegory of the Cave, he described how "a group of people who have lived chained to the wall of a cave all of their lives, facing a blank wall. The people watch shadows projected on the wall from objects passing in front of a fire behind them, and give names to these shadows. The shadows are the prisoners' reality."

    The point is that we are captives of our life's experiences, and that includes how our brains are indoctrinated from birth. Without exposure to life outside the cave (i.e. bubble) people live in alternative realities, whether it is their religious beliefs or their political beliefs or both. And as George Lakoff notes it is very difficult to "change a person's brain" an expression he uses to change what the person believes, whether it is about God or about Roy Moore or any political/religiously indoctrinated belief.

    They also vote in large numbers with their tribe (or is it a flock?) and with 100 percent certitude in their convictions.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Crooks and Liars: Alabama Republican: We Can Stop School Shootings With The Ten Commandments

    Alabama Republican state senator Gerald Dial wants a state referendum to allow the displaying of the Ten Commandments in public schools to protect kids from mass shootings.

    "I believe that if you had the Ten Commandments posted in a prominent place in school, it has the possibility to prohibit some student from taking action to kill other students," Dial said.

    "If this bill stops one school shooting in Alabama, just one, then it's worth the time and effort we're putting into it," Dial said according to Chip Brownlee at Alabama Political Reporter.

    We should not take these initiatives lightly. These people absolutely believe in their faith. It is a part of their upbringing from birth and reinforced by family and friends in the community. They live in a bubble, not unlike the bubble of those who live in North Korea and see Kim Jung-in as their savior.

    It is nothing new. In Plato's Allegory of the Cave, he described how "a group of people who have lived chained to the wall of a cave all of their lives, facing a blank wall. The people watch shadows projected on the wall from objects passing in front of a fire behind them, and give names to these shadows. The shadows are the prisoners' reality."

    The point is that we are captives of our life's experiences, and that includes how our brains are indoctrinated from birth. Without exposure to life outside the cave (i.e. bubble) people live in alternative realities, whether it is their religious beliefs or their political beliefs or both. And as George Lakoff notes it is very difficult to "change a person's brain" an expression he uses to change what the person believes, whether it is about God or about Roy Moore or any political/religiously indoctrinated belief.

    Schmidt; yes. I just wonder why in America? I would think that due to all what hits the airwaves that these people would adapt.

    But yeah like you said they live in a bubble. It really shows that quality "education" is lacking in this country. These things barely happen in Europe because of "free" quality education" for all.

    Surely this has an effect on "governing"; look at all the "nut heads" from Alabama in the present government. Sessions is the worst out of such a State. Let alone Pruitt from Oklahoma and others from these backwards States.

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    The religious indoctrination is less about the formal education one receives, but more about what they learn from their parents, family and friends and community. They can attain higher educational degrees but the indoctrination remains, especially if they attend a religious institution like Liberty University.
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    lonely bird, I absolutely agree on the Hobby Lobby decision.
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    I don't have the time to research this but I am guessing the brain is analogous somewhat to a computer with RAM & ROM. An untouched part of a young brain has single use imprintable RAM / ROM characteristics. Once something enters this part of the brain it is imprinted and changes from RAM to ROM. That is what may answer why some characteristics are regional. Kids learn something in formative years and then it sticks with them . There were some small outlying towns close to where I grew up that seemed to produce violent lawless people. I think kids grew up around a few abnormal people and the bad characteristics becams learned , imprinted and then normal for the area. Just a thought as to why some radical illogical religious beliefs can be identified to a geographical area.
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    Schmidt Wrote: The religious indoctrination is less about the formal education one receives, but more about what they learn from their parents, family and friends and community. They can attain higher educational degrees but the indoctrination remains, especially if they attend a religious institution like Liberty University.
    Schmidt, I was not talking about the "education" they get here at the present religious schools. They should be taught on how to think "rational" as well learn to be "analytic". As well what is "real" and what is "fantasy". Unless these kids think "snakes" can talk as well that people can walk on water. Science lessons about the universe will also help to eliminate the myth that people are important in the universe, let alone that the world is only 6000 years old etc. Sure the parents are awfully guilty and should also be re-educated; but likely this will never will happen. The solution is to tax the churches as well the preachers who sell all this snake oil. They are not any better than the NRA.