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Marion Hammer with her finger on the trigger AR15 that killed 17

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    I'd never heard of the woman before but:

    Anyone who roams the state Capitol for any length of time knows Marion Hammer, the longtime Florida lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.

    Hammer is profiled this week in a scathing New Yorker piece that makes the case she is one of, if not the most, powerful gun lobbyist in the United States.

    Hammer, who was booed at a Senate committee hearing on Monday as she spoke against gun-law changes under consideration this week, has long held strong influence in Republican-controlled Tallahassee and with Gov. Rick Scott, an A-rated member of the NRA.

    orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/polit...

    Mike Spies explores more deeply Hammer's sledge hammer legacy in the New Yorker:

    Hammer is the National Rifle Association’s Florida lobbyist. At seventy-eight years old, she is nearing four decades as the most influential gun lobbyist in the United States. Her policies have elevated Florida’s gun owners to a uniquely privileged status, and made the public carrying of firearms a fact of daily life in the state. Daley was referring to a law that Hammer worked to enact in 2011, during Governor Rick Scott’s first year in office. The statute punishes local officials who attempt to establish gun regulations stricter than those imposed at the state level. Officials can be fined thousands of dollars and removed from office.

    Legal papers filed by the N.R.A. assert that the organization was “deeply involved in advocating” for the legislation. Hammer oversaw its development. When government policy analysts suggested even minor adjustments to the bill’s language, they made sure to receive Hammer’s approval. In an e-mail to Hammer about three draft amendments, an analyst wrote, “Marion, I’ve spoken with you about the first one,” and went on to note that a different staffer “said she’d spoken with you about the others.” The e-mail concluded, “Let me know what you think.” The amendments addressed matters such as where fines should be deposited.

    newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-n...

    Whoah! Hammering down "local officials who attempt to establish gun regulations stricter than those imposed at the state level. Officials can be fined thousands of dollars and removed from office."

    Hammer is definitely de Hammer on the trigger of the AR15. Why is this damned woman so damned in love with guns? To add further to her catalog of evils, Hammer "created the country’s first Stand Your Ground law, and the statute that normalized the concealed carrying of handguns in public."

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    I just read the article in the New Yorker. I never heard of Marion Hammer until she was discussed on Rachel Maddow's show. We can understand how she is a gun rights supporter from her upbringing, but the extremism is more difficult to understand. I suppose in a way it's a cult like religion for her and perhaps others in the NRA. She has lost all touch with reality.

    I too grew up with guns. We were a family of hunters, but we did it to survive as we could not afford beef. And my Dad taught us to never spoil any meat with a shot to the torso...always a head or neck shot. Sounds gruesome but it was quick. One shot only.

    I absolutely cannot understand or agree with those gun rights people who say they need their AR-15s for hunting. That is crap. The guns were never designed for hunting, and if they are used to shoot a deer in the way they massacre people, I wouldn't want any part of the meat pulverized and spoiled by the impact of the bullets.

    And I disagree with the term "sportsman". There is no sport in killing any animal. I always felt bad for the animal, much like the opening hunting scene in the movie, Last of the Mohicans.

    After leaving home, I have never owned or shot a gun again. I would never have a gun in the house because I had children and now grandchildren in the house, and statistics say that a gun in a house will most likely be used on a family member, the worst scenario being the loss of life of a child.

    Ditto for schools. Guns do not belong in school rooms full of kids or on teachers' holster or in a desk drawer, which may or may not be always locked.

    Marion Hammer's upbringing around guns had a different effect on her than mine. I just don't understand.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I just read the article in the New Yorker. I never heard of Marion Hammer until she was discussed on Rachel Maddow's show. We can understand how she is a gun rights supporter from her upbringing, but the extremism is more difficult to understand. I suppose in a way it's a cult like religion for her and perhaps others in the NRA. She has lost all touch with reality.

    I too grew up with guns. We were a family of hunters, but we did it to survive as we could not afford beef. And my Dad taught us to never spoil any meat with a shot to the torso...always a head or neck shot. Sounds gruesome but it was quick. One shot only.

    I absolutely cannot understand or agree with those gun rights people who say they need their AR-15s for hunting. That is crap. The guns were never designed for hunting, and if they are used to shoot a deer in the way they massacre people, I wouldn't want any part of the meat pulverized and spoiled by the impact of the bullets.

    And I disagree with the term "sportsman". There is no sport in killing any animal. I always felt bad for the animal, much like the opening hunting scene in the movie, Last of the Mohicans.

    After leaving home, I have never owned or shot a gun again. I would never have a gun in the house because I had children and now grandchildren in the house, and statistics say that a gun in a house will most likely be used on a family member, the worst scenario being the loss of life of a child.

    Ditto for schools. Guns do not belong in school rooms full of kids or on teachers' holster or in a desk drawer, which may or may not be always locked.

    Marion Hammer's upbringing around guns had a different effect on her than mine. I just don't understand.

    Schmidt good story as well how it should be.

    Here is my story; I was raised during W.W.II , I was a foster child; father killed by the Germans; mother with TB. The war ended in 1945. We lived on an wooded estate; the Germans ran away and left all their "guns" and ammunition behind. Thus as kids we experimented with those guns and bullets; we built a fire then hid behind a sand dune and threw the bullets in the fire and then the real fire works started ; some kids got killed, but I was lucky. The other thing we did, inserting the bullets into the holes of a concrete fence pole and hit it with a hammer. My brother had the biggest gun; however we moved as foster kids to town and left the guns behind. I also remember that a V2 self propelled bomb was standing with its nose in the ground in the woods; thus a dangerous "dud". After that I stayed away from guns.