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    Pollute our air, hasten global warming and a whole bunch of other evil, harmful stuff:

    theintercept.com/2018/02/25/koch-brothe...

    This has been thoroughly documented by Lee Fang and Nick Surgey of the Intercept.

    In a document that can only be labeled as thoroughly satirical, Advancing Principled Public Policy, as the Koch Brothers are complete ruled by the principle of ungoverned, unrestricted greed, Charlie and David cockadoodledoo about the crap they've been able to pull off:

    documentcloud.org/documents/4364737-Koc...

    God help me, I cannot like Charlie and David for I seem to have this unreasonable and selfish desire to breathe clean air and drink safe water and to not see the world destroyed by the global warming brought to us by unprincipled corporatists.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Tucson, AZ
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    Karen:

    Koch Industries has a lengthy history of environmental violations, and Greenpeace listed SOME of them in the link below:

    http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-deniers/koch-industries/koch-industries-pollution/

    Arizona governor Doug Ducey is a good friend of the Koch brothers, and their "dark money" helped him get elected in 2014.

    The Koch family's grip on America goes back a long ways, since family patriarch Fred Koch was one of the founders of the John Birch Society in 1958. His sons, Charles and David, provided LOTS of financial and organizational help to the fledgling Tea Party in 2010. The Tea Party caucus started by Michelle Bachmann has now evolved into the Freedom Caucus.

    Although I have mentioned this a few times before on this site, this fact needs repeating.

    If you compare the goals of the John Birch Society to the goals of the Tea Party, you will find that there are MANY similarities.

    https://www.jbs.org/issues-pages

    The JBS stance on gun control is exactly what you would expect:

    The founders were clear on the point of an individual’s right to keep and bear arms. The John Birch Society believes that gun-control laws do nothing but control the responsible individual and aid criminals. Also, the JBS opposes a monopoly of power on the part of government.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

    Although the brothers are not personally involved in politics, David DID run as a candidate for vice predient of the Libertarian Party in 1980. The notes under "political career" show that the Libertarina Party is essentially the John Birch Society:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koch

    "Money talks and BS walks", which is why the Koch brothers spent $889 million on the 2016 elections:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/koch-2016-spending-goal-114604

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    We've discussed this before, but the Kochtopus should probably be included in these discussions. You can visualize the magnitude of the Koch apparatus in one big picture.

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    Thanks for this additional information!
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Kenosha, WI
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    If anyone wishes to act revenge on the Koch Bros., you can do a simple search for Koch owned companies, and boycott the brands they own.

    I did a simple search using bing as my engine, progressivenetwork.wordpress.com/2013/0...

    These are just a few things that Koch has ownership in:

    Koch Industry/Georgia-Pacific Products:

    Angel Soft toilet paper
    Brawny paper towels
    Dixie plates, bowls, napkins and cups
    Mardi Gras napkins and towels
    Quilted Northern toilet paper
    Soft ‘n Gentle toilet paper
    Sparkle napkins
    Vanity fair napkins
    Zee napkins

    I exercise my rights to boycott Koch Industries every time I shop, I simply buy brands that are not Koch affiliated.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    Yes I have boycotted many of those products myself. But "soft 'n gentle toilet paper" kind of seems unKoch like. Ha.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    Dockadams Wrote: I exercise my rights to boycott Koch Industries every time I shop, I simply buy brands that are not Koch affiliated.

    Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans are unable or unwilling to be too picky concerning what products they buy. Not just that, but it does get expensive if you want to buy from companies that aren't dicks. The Koch Brothers are the most vocal dicks out there, but that doesn't mean they are the only ones.

    My wife and I are very cognizant of the products we buy, but we are two working professionals with minimal debt and no children. We also live in a city that has an abundance of alternative options for people who want to "buy local" or from small businesses throughout the west coast.

    A solid chunk of Americans simply don't have those options. If it's not the Koch Brothers it's Proctor & Gamble. If it's not Proctor & Gamble it's PepsiCo. And if it's not PepsiCo it's Johnson & Johnson.

    The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of things we buy - food, clothing, cosmetics, and medications- are owned by a handful of multinational corporations. They all want to pay little to no taxes. The Koch Brothers are the only ones who are so vocal about it.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    Another article on the Koch brothers spending in state elections in 2017.

    TruthOut, February 25, 2018: Tax Forms Reveal Koch Brothers Spent Millions to Shape State Politics in 2017

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Kenosha, WI
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dockadams Wrote: I exercise my rights to boycott Koch Industries every time I shop, I simply buy brands that are not Koch affiliated.

    Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans are unable or unwilling to be too picky concerning what products they buy. Not just that, but it does get expensive if you want to buy from companies that aren't dicks. The Koch Brothers are the most vocal dicks out there, but that doesn't mean they are the only ones.

    My wife and I are very cognizant of the products we buy, but we are two working professionals with minimal debt and no children. We also live in a city that has an abundance of alternative options for people who want to "buy local" or from small businesses throughout the west coast.

    A solid chunk of Americans simply don't have those options. If it's not the Koch Brothers it's Proctor & Gamble. If it's not Proctor & Gamble it's PepsiCo. And if it's not PepsiCo it's Johnson & Johnson.

    The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of things we buy - food, clothing, cosmetics, and medications- are owned by a handful of multinational corporations. They all want to pay little to no taxes. The Koch Brothers are the only ones who are so vocal about it.

    youtube.com/watch?v=MbykzqJ6ens

    When people start to hurt, a lot more than they are now, I mean, when they lose more entitlements, experience greater cut backs in social services, then possibly they'll wise up and begin looking at how progressives and democrats lost and won elections in the past.

    Obama won elections using many small donations from everyday people like us. Which is the only hope democrats or progressives have, winning by providing candidates with many small donations. Republicans however win elections by receiving big corporate donations. One example of this was during the Walker recall election when the Koch organization outspent democrats at a ratio of 10:1, republicans bombarded the airwaves and social media with Walker ads.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_guberna...

    e.g.: "According to USA Today, "More than $62 million was spent by the candidates and outside groups. Much of the $30 million raised by Walker came from outside the state. Barrett ... spent about $4 million; most of his donors live in Wisconsin."[34] Barrett also benefited from spending by labor unions throughout the recall, estimated at another $20 million.[citation needed] Kathleen Falk, who was defeated by Barrett in the Democratic primary raised about $5.2 million from public-sector unions inside and outside the state. The cost of the recall elections for the governor and lieutenant governor to Wisconsin taxpayers was $18 million.[33] "

    wisdc.org/pr072512.php

    I've read your posts in the past and am in agreement with you when you state politics is local, it sure is local. People can choose to go with the republican status quo of having their entitlements and social programs cut by cons-ervatives, or, they can start thinking out of their box. I began my Koch boycott many years ago when I realized it's money that drives politics. There's a couple of ways ordinary people can fight the big corporate donor machines, one is by making small donations to your favorite candidate, and the other is by punishing the corporate big donors for their unethical political ways by boycotting the products the own.

    Koch Industry Gasoline:

    *Chevron
    *Union
    *Union 76
    *Conoco

    I go out of my way to purchase products which have no Koch ownership or influences.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    That is what you get in an corrupt "capitalistic" country, if you mix "religion", "corruption"," billionaires" with "governing" and "politics". On top of that make sure the antique "laws" here work to the advantage of the "crooks". Of course don't "vet" a President, because these "crooks" will determine who they want and prefer the same "corrupt" kind . This is America, be proud of it!! No wonder Trump loves Russia; we are heading in the same direction.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Another article on the Koch brothers spending in state elections in 2017.

    TruthOut, February 25, 2018: Tax Forms Reveal Koch Brothers Spent Millions to Shape State Politics in 2017

    How can this country call itself "democratic" sorry we've got "oligarch's" the same as Russia; this will make Trump happy.

    This is absolutely not the America we used to know!!

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Worry about NK with weapons but there are more dangers to life in USA from people with enough money to control and generate self interested policy.