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Unexplained flu deaths.

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    There is no explanation for a lot of deaths from the current flu outbreak. There is no direct cause of death from the latest flu outbreak. The strain of flu isn't more dangerous.

    While the patient sample in the current study is relatively small: 75 patients, including 23 who died in 2009, and 4 from 1957, investigators were able to show that other theories, like dampening of interferon, or the triggering of an inflammatory response called a "cytokine storm," were not supported by the evidence. Even the number of viruses present in a flu patient did not seem to correlate with the severity of illness.

    www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101205202526

    I was talking to a friend of mine in early January. We both had already been sick with the flu and were doing better . A week later I got a call that he had died in his sleep .

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    Ft.myers, FL
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    There is no explanation for a lot of deaths from the current flu outbreak. There is no direct cause of death from the latest flu outbreak. The strain of flu isn't more dangerous.

    While the patient sample in the current study is relatively small: 75 patients, including 23 who died in 2009, and 4 from 1957, investigators were able to show that other theories, like dampening of interferon, or the triggering of an inflammatory response called a "cytokine storm," were not supported by the evidence. Even the number of viruses present in a flu patient did not seem to correlate with the severity of illness.

    www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101205202526

    I was talking to a friend of mine in early January. We both had already been sick with the flu and were doing better . A week later I got a call that he had died in his sleep .

    Chet, could it be the "junk food"? Lots of people here eat the wrong things; it affects their immune system.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: There is no explanation for a lot of deaths from the current flu outbreak. There is no direct cause of death from the latest flu outbreak. The strain of flu isn't more dangerous.

    Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institutes of Health National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease says otherwise.

    This years predominant flu strain, H3N2, is "historically the bad actor among influenza's. It's also associated with complications." He also said that H3N2 is so deadly because it's a less dominant flu strain and therefore humans have had less time to develop immunity against it. The third and final reason he said this year is so tough is because this years vaccine mutated too early and therefore is only roughly 30% effective.

    It appears these three things form a perfect storm that makes this years flu worse than many very recent years, but we also must remember to put things in perspective. This strain is no where close to the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, the 1957 Asian flu pandemic, or the 1968 Hong Kong flu pandemic.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    There is no explanation for a lot of deaths from the current flu outbreak. There is no direct cause of death from the latest flu outbreak. The strain of flu isn't more dangerous.

    While the patient sample in the current study is relatively small: 75 patients, including 23 who died in 2009, and 4 from 1957, investigators were able to show that other theories, like dampening of interferon, or the triggering of an inflammatory response called a "cytokine storm," were not supported by the evidence. Even the number of viruses present in a flu patient did not seem to correlate with the severity of illness.

    www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101205202526

    I was talking to a friend of mine in early January. We both had already been sick with the flu and were doing better . A week later I got a call that he had died in his sleep .

    Chet, could it be the "junk food"? Lots of people here eat the wrong things; it affects their immune system.

    Something is going on. Most of the deaths are people not that sick and the deaths come as total surprises. The manner of deaths:

    Sepsis is a potentially life-threatening complication of an infection. Sepsis occurs when chemicals released into the bloodstream to fight the infection trigger inflammatory responses throughout the body. This inflammation can trigger a cascade of changes that can damage multiple organ systems, causing them to fail.

    Two kinds of pneumonia one caused by the immune system the other a secondary infection of the lungs.

    Bottom line is Dr. Visits. Person may be feeling fine but it's not worth dying to forgo a Dr visit over seemingly minor concerns.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Something is going on. Most of the deaths are people not that sick and the deaths come as total surprises. The manner of deaths:

    Yes, something is going on. As Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institutes of Health National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease said, H3N2, is "historically the bad actor among influenza's. It's also associated with complications." He went on to explain in detail three reasons why this years strand is worse than recent years.

    What Makes This Flu Season So Bad

    None of us are medical professionals, so we shouldn't be speculating. I prefer to listen to what the top scientists in the country are saying.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn, I am going by the headlines of sudden unexplained deaths of people not appearing to be that sick.

    How do people die from the flu? - CBS ...

    CBS News › news › how-do-peo...

    Jan 29, 2018 - Other rare complications from the flu that can be fatal include infection of the heart (or myocarditis) which can cause sudden death or heart failure, and

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: jaredsxtn, I am going by the headlines of sudden unexplained deaths of people not appearing to be that sick.

    I'm not questioning that. There's plenty of sensationalist headlines out there about this years flu season. All I'm saying is that the source of those headlines is far more important than the headlines themselves.

    I quoted one of the top scientists in the country explaining exactly why this season is seeing an uptick in causalities caused by influenza. I tend to listen to our nations top scientists more than a random person who has a website and can come up with a sensationalist headline. A blog written by an anti-vaxxer may generate more "clicks" than a scholarly article that quotes one of the top scientists at the NIH, but that doesn't mean the blog is fact and the scholarly article is fiction. It just means that more people clicked on the blog.

    Tens of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands (or more) worldwide die from the flu every year. This year is seeing a slight uptick compared to very recent years, but it's nowhere close to previous flu epidemics.

    Every death is a tragedy, but we have to look at things in the bigger picture. There's a flu season every year. Some are mild and others are a little more intense. And sometimes there's an pandemic that kills upwards of 5% of the world population.