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Domestic Abuse part of WH Staff

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  • Independent
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    WOW... People that are leading our nation in the WH have beat\abused women.

    I hope the nation as a whole understand how serious this is, not only because these men abuse their wives, but it signals their lack of self-control under stress. When under stress, they loose it, make decisions that directly harm others. Sure, no doubt they are sincerely remorseful after the smack around their wives, at least until they do it the next time, and the time after that, and the time... Not people we want at the very very top.

    My concern is that collectively we as a nation shrug it off as "Oh well, not the first time a man has done that, I wonder what will happen tomorrow?" and when tomorrow comes it is "It was revealed today that Trump committed statutory rape when he had sex with this a 13 year old girl 4 years ago" and collectively we say :"Oh well, not the first time a man has done that, I wonder what will happen tomorrow?"

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Trump calls for due process. What is needed special process where women get immediate protection and support. Due process supports and frees the perpetrator. Special process is needed for abuse to protect the victim.
  • Center Left
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    A meme I read recently said: Trump always takes the word of a man over the word of a woman. Unless the man is a Democrat.

    Moore in Alabama. Eerily on topic.

  • Independent
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    Various reporting\speculation is that the reason why trump only goes as far as saying "Everyone is entitled to due process" is because he has likely smack around women before, but it has not yet been exposed. If exposed, he has already set the expectations for his base. He wants his base to be singing the trump song: "He's innocent, until he confesses otherwise" and of course trump will never ever admit to any wrong doing on anything let alone domestic abuse.

    trump knows his base will die for him, but they only have one condition, "Never admit you've lied or done anything wrong". The moment he concedes, this base is gone. He knows even if undeniable evidence surfaces (video\pictures\recordings\etc), he still can deny it by saying something akin to: "It's faked evidence created by the democrats" and his base will stick by him.

    Trump Success method #4: "Always deny, always double down, always blame the victim"

  • Center Left
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    They said it never happened isn't the same as it never happened.
  • Independent
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    Trump surrounds himself with the same types; none of them are "clean", let alone himself. This stupid country never even did a background check on Trump, so again an self inflected wound. Let's deport some more decent people that is so much better. Let's deport Melania and Trump to Guantenamo Bay prison.
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    Seems to me that Trump is due for a little "due process", like a congressional investigation into all the charges made against him regarding sexual improprieties.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Karen Hedwig Backm Wrote: Seems to me that Trump is due for a little "due process", like a congressional investigation into all the charges made against him regarding sexual improprieties.
    The fact trump is still president shows how dangerous he is.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Karen Hedwig Backm Wrote: Seems to me that Trump is due for a little "due process", like a congressional investigation into all the charges made against him regarding sexual improprieties.

    All our laws are made by people who can take care of their self. Consequently there is no compassion for helpless individuals when they are victimized . I would venture to say that victims are abused again when they seek help. Our system needs an intermediary to step in when the abuser has an advantage.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Karen -- I agree. But as you know the Republican enablers in Congress have circled the wagons around Trump. No investigations as long as Republicans are in charge. Democrats do not have the votes.
  • Strongly Liberal
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    Schmidt Wrote: Karen -- I agree. But as you know the Republican enablers in Congress have circled the wagons around Trump. No investigations as long as Republicans are in charge. Democrats do not have the votes.

    Where is the red line ? When do some republican congress critters decide the evidence is insurmountable and make the decision to reject the Russian takeover of our country and their party ? What's it going to take? Because when it's said and done the ones who went along are dead meat . One way or another , someone is dead meat. Pretty soon .

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote: Karen -- I agree. But as you know the Republican enablers in Congress have circled the wagons around Trump. No investigations as long as Republicans are in charge. Democrats do not have the votes.

    We all know that if the tables were turned, and if trump were a democrat, impeachment would be underway. And extremely likely with most elected democrats onboard.

    You have noted several times that Republicans are tribal (I agree). This works well for them in the sense that they are more easy to organize under a few unified goals, where as the democrats are more easily splintered and not as unified. Going into the mid-terms, the Republicans will be carrying a lot of really bad shit (insert long list of endless reasons), but its bad shit their tribe is willing to accept. Democrats are different, they splinter because they won't accept the same large percentage of bad shit. The good news, democrats and most swing voters won't vote for the Republicans, they look at the pile of Republican shit and it stinks so bad that they don't want anything to do with it.

    trump: "Thanks everyone for coming to visit me here at my WH. As you leave, you can take some of my personal shit with you. It is fresh, I just took a dump a few minutes ago, its smells great, you're gonna love it; I know I do"

  • Independent
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    Read all my "threads" I predicted that this country will move in the wrong direction; which means "downhill"; especially in the "ethics" field and "common sense" field. Tribalism is actually the same as Hitler, Stalin, Putin stands for; thus just compare the situation now and when Obama was in power. Yes, then you can make a "graph" which shows the "downhill slope". It is just now a matter on how this ends or continues under a "dictator".