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Poisoned Minds and Their Poisoners: Anti-Abortion Killers

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    I will be marking March 10 of this year as the 25th anniversary of the assassination of abortion provider David Gunn in Pensacola, Florida. Gunn was gunned down by Michael F. Griffin.

    Michael Frederick Griffin was sentenced to life in prison for the murder of David Gunn. He was a bully and a violent man:

    In court records of a divorce action she filed in 1991, and later withdrew, Mrs. Griffin portrayed her husband as a man who physically abused her.

    What Dewayne Dreadin, manager at Dreamland roller skating rink here, remembers about Mr. Griffin is his temper. Mr. Griffin worked part time as a guard at the rink two years ago.

    "He back-armed a kid, and knocked him down," Mr. Dreadin said. "I fired him for it. He stalked out and slammed the door. It was kind of like it was his way, or nothing."

    nytimes.com/1993/03/14/us/the-clinic-gu...

    In Griffin's court trial and his defense:

    At Griffin’s murder trial, his defense counsel would blame his actions on a pro-life leader named John Burt. A former KKK member, Burt was eventually convicted of molesting and sexually abusing teens at a shelter he founded for unwed mothers. He died in prison.

    slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/10/mic...

    God!

    Violence. Violence against women. Misogyny. Pedophilia. Racism.

    Lovely traits.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Pensacola, FL
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    Pensacola. In 1984 two young couples bombed three different abortion clinic locations. One the Ladies Center in the University Mall Complex was about 200 feet from my bedroom window. It was after midnight and I ran over there right away. Pink fiberglass insulation was still floating down. Among other objections what really bothered me about the bombings was the danger to the general public. Those bombs could have just as easily blown up at a red light next to innocent bystanders. The OPs post involved violent people looking to hurt people, regardless. There are always violent people looking for excuses. Doing labor union work there was no shortage of people willing to carry out violent, dangerous illegal activities. Union or not.

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    Thank you for this additional information about anti-abortion terrorism.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Tucson, AZ
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    Last Saturday, a man in New Jersey crashed a stolen bakery truck into a Planned Parenthood clinic. injuring a pregnant woman and two others.

    This month, New Jersey state lawmakers voted to restore millions of dollars in funding for health and family planning clinics. The funding had been cut under the administration of Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican.

    The new governor, Philip D. Murphy, a Democrat, was endorsed by Planned Parenthood.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/nyregion/truck-attack-planned-parenthood.html?module=WatchingPortal®ion=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=26&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F02%2F17%2Fnyregion%2Ftruck-attack-planned-parenthood.html&eventName=Watching-article-click

    Why do "pro-life" folks keep trying to kill people?

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    Ft.myers, FL
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    Last Saturday, a man in New Jersey crashed a stolen bakery truck into a Planned Parenthood clinic. injuring a pregnant woman and two others.

    This month, New Jersey state lawmakers voted to restore millions of dollars in funding for health and family planning clinics. The funding had been cut under the administration of Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican.

    The new governor, Philip D. Murphy, a Democrat, was endorsed by Planned Parenthood.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/nyregion/truck-attack-planned-parenthood.html?module=WatchingPortal®ion=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=26&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F02%2F17%2Fnyregion%2Ftruck-attack-planned-parenthood.html&eventName=Watching-article-click

    Why do "pro-life" folks keep trying to kill people?

    Guy, the pro-life people were never raped, because they are too ugly to rape, if they get an total disfigured or even normal kid they sell it to the army; it is "gods will" . However whatever "god" he knows of nothing, because he/it? never wrote a "bible"; "HUMANS" did.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Karen -- Yes the anti-abortion activism can border on killing. Remember Bill O'Reilly continually referring to Dr. Tiller as "Tiller the Baby Killer". One of those anti-abortion extremists, Scott Roeder, murdered Tiller while he was in church. His reasoning? Because "preborn children's lives were in imminent danger."

    For many of the extreme anti-abortionists, the murder of Dr. Tiller was welcomed. Randall Terry, the founder of Operation Rescue, said at the time (from Wikipedia...above link):

    "George Tiller was a mass-murderer. We grieve for him that he did not have time to properly prepare his soul to face God. I am more concerned that the Obama Administration will use Tiller's killing to intimidate pro-lifers into surrendering our most effective rhetoric and actions. Abortion is still murder. And we still must call abortion by its proper name; murder. Those men and women who slaughter the unborn are murderers according to the Law of God. We must continue to expose them in our communities and peacefully protest them at their offices and homes, and yes, even their churches."

    Wiley Drake, second vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention in 2006–2007, asked on his radio show, "Would you have rejoiced when Adolf Hitler died during the war? ... I would have said, 'Amen! Praise the Lord! Hallelujah! I'm glad he's dead.' This man, George Tiller, was far greater in his atrocities than Adolf Hitler, so I am happy; I am glad that he is dead."

    Such is the mentality of many in the evangelical movement, and why Hillary Clinton was so despised...or hated. Because Hillary was Pro-Choice and pro-Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood to an evangelicals is like satin. It's one of the reasons Hillary lost the white women's vote. The evangelicals, both men and women, vote in huge numbers and their hatred against abortion trumps any other worldviews, no matter how despicable.

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    Three days after he became president, Trump signed an executive order that denied U.S. assistance to any foreign-based organization that performs, promotes or offers information on abortion . A similar plan, known as the Mexico City policy, was in effect under past Republican presidents. But Trump expanded it exponentially to apply not just to around $600 million in overseas family-planning funds, but to the entire $8.8 billion in annual U.S. global health aid.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/how-a-change-in-us-abortion-policy-reverberated-around-the-globe/?utm_term=.ecb98948ac20

    Abortion is one of the very few topics that manages to combine religion, politics, and sex, and it has REALLY screwed up our politics. I have 2 relatives who voted for Trump ONLY because of the abortion issue.

    Up until about 10 years ago, I was pretty conservative on this issue, but gradually came to understand that my position was incorrect.

    I just finished reading an excellent book bu Jodi Picoult titled "a spark of light", which is a story about a man who storms into the ONLY abortion clinic in Mississippi and starts shooting people. Like all her books, this one is thoroughly researched and thought provoking. There are 5 states, incidentally, that have only ONE clinic.

    A paragraph from the author's notes in the book vividly demonstrates the hypocrisy of the "pro-life" people.

    The National Abortion Federation compiles statistics on violence committed by anti-abortion protesters in the United States and Canada. Since 1977, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault and battery, 13 individuals wounded, 10 stink bombs, 373 break-ins, 42 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 acts of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, 655 anthrax threats, and 3 kidnappings.

    11 people have been killed: four doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, a police officer, a clinic escort, and 2 others.

    In addition to the violence, clinics have been attacked by politicians. In the past 5 years, more than 280 laws have been passed that restrict access to abortion. In Mississippi, a woman can actually be charged for murder if she terminates her pregnancy. The two provisions in the law are Mississippi code section 97-3-17, section 1, and Mississippi Code 97-3-19, section D.

    Since there have been FOUR Supreme Court decisions in favor of the "pro-choice' crows, it seems to me that the Mississippi laws are unconstitutional, so I wrote a letter to the Mississippi chapter of the ACLU a few days ago, and asked them if they had brought suit yet against the state.

    If you have the time to read another book about abortion, I would recommend reading "scarlet A" by Kaatie Watson, who is a bioethicist at Northwestern's medical school, and a senior counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois.

    nytimes.com/2018/02/14/books/review-sca...