Carlitos Wrote: It’s weird how you are fixated on assuming his supporters expect a “Sanders dictatorship”.
Sanders basically promised a “Sanders dictatorship” during his 2016 campaign. He convinced his supporters he’d give them free! healthcare and free! college and free! lunch without ever once explaining how he was going to actually follow through on any one of his promises.
um....no. He had proposals and legislative sketches. He built in tax increases. He was pretty clear on what his policy preferences would be and that final legislation would be the work of Congress.
That may be how you, an intelligent individual who understands the complexities of running the country may have interpreted his promises, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of his supporters actually believed that he would be able to follow through on what he was promising them.
I watched many of his speeches and campaign rallies and he never talked about compromising with Congress to get his some version of his policy proposals etched into law. What he talked about was free! college, free! healthcare, and free! everything without ever once explaining that those free! things will require a massive tax increase on the lower and middle classes. I said over and over again that you can tax the richest 1% at 99.99999% and you wouldn't come close to paying for even ONE of Bernie's promises, let alone all of them.
Bernie is an amendment king and a bipartisan deal-maker.
He had detailed proposals.
All government spending is "paid for" by marking up accounts in the banking system, as that's the only way it can be done. The real questions are about what the government is buying (and how and at what nominal price).
Sen. Sanders included tax increases in his proposals, especially for his healthcare proposal(s).
I'm not here to defend Sanders fiscal policy. Plenty to bitch about.
"Not just that, but he convinced his die hard supporters that Hillary and Donald were one in the same."
He campaigned for Hillary.
After spending the entire campaign painting her and Donald as one in the same. Do you honestly think Bernie or busters saw him campaign for Hillary and changed their minds?
Bernie didn't tell people to Bernie or bust, but to vote for the eventual nominee, who was Clinton.
He told us to vote for Clinton. If some left wing people couldn't bring themselves to vote for Clinton, that's Clinton's fault, or those left wingers fault, but not Bernie's.
It's not Bernie's fault that Clinton did not place emphasis on the rust belt states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan. We know now that members of the local Clinton and Democratic Party campaigns were screaming for help from the national campaign in those pivotal states.
"Sure, Bernie has tapped into the real angst that many Americans are feeling, but he’s using that angst to boost his political profile instead of actually having a real conversation with his supporters about the complexities of life in a modern day economy that is going through rapid technological changes."
Are you sure you “like” Sanders?
It's complicated. He talks a good talk and I *personally* agree with much of what he says, but he is also a demagogue who promises the world to his down on their luck supporters and has convinced many (not all) of them that he and he alone will fix all of their problems with the stroke of a pen.
You sound like one of the right-wingers criticizing Obama in 2008.
Just because I agree with many of his stances doesn't mean I'm convinced they would be the best thing for a country of over 330 million people. What works in Oregon and Vermont may not always work in Alabama or Texas.
This is a conservative argument.
Bernie's been disingenuous AT BEST and flat out deceitful at worst in explaining exactly how any of his promises will become a reality for the 330 million plus people who live in this country. Intelligent people like yourself are capable of reading through the lines and are able to understand how difficult it is to usher in sweeping change in one fell swoop, but millions of his supporters truly believe that he and he alone will somehow make it so they are no longer suffering. In my opinion I think he taps into the genuine anger and frustration that millions of Americans have simply to raise his political profile.
You sound like a Republican.
That is why I genuinely struggle with Sanders. While I fully understand I eventually have to move on, I am still seething with anger that his die hard supporters in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were so angered that he wasn't the Democratic nominee that they overruled the will of the American voters and handed Donald the Presidency.
This is an outrageous, inflammatory claim.
His campaign rhetoric and impossible to fulfill promises convinced just enough of his supporters that Hillary and Donald were one in the same. Some people tell me I should just "get over it," but I've found that rather difficult because their selfishness is the reason why we are stuck with this monster for the next 3 and potentially 7 years.
That's kind of hard to "get over."
It's obvious why Clinton failed.