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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Carlitos Wrote: It’s easier to start a business when aggregate demand is high. You get that bottom up capital formation. Workers save, then start a business with that capital and spend it. It’s not the lack of startups causing less aggregate demand but the other way around.

    Aggregate demand is a function of income. I say the reason the import market of cheaper goods flourished is because consumers started shopping price instead of quality as their incomes lagged behind. Expensive "Made in USA" goods were prized the world over. Incomes lagged behind the world over and there went USA jobs. What incentive is there for CEOs with thousands of years of income to involve themselves with retooling for cheaper products, labor problems and startup headaches?

  • Center Left
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    2nd really bad market result in a matter of days. Predictability and certainty are what investors want.

    Things and these times are anything but certain. A huge correction will come at some point. Nobody knows if that's tomorrow or 3 years away. Maybe adjacent to the scheduling of Trumps interview with Mueller.

    Sell !!!!!! Buy Gold, diversifying however possible because much will be lost.

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    TJ Wrote:

    2nd really bad market result in a matter of days. Predictability and certainty are what investors want.

    Things and these times are anything but certain. A huge correction will come at some point. Nobody knows if that's tomorrow or 3 years away. Maybe adjacent to the scheduling of Trumps interview with Mueller.

    Sell !!!!!! Buy Gold, diversifying however possible because much will be lost.

    Sell only if the world is ending. Nobody denies a comeback so why in the world sell. Buy Gold????? Gold has value because of fear. Don't buy anything except a safe to put money in.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I would like to know if the DOW divisor has changed.
  • Independent
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    According to one of trump tweets today, the reason the stock market falls is because the fake media keeps reporting fake news.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    wwjd Wrote:

    According to one of trump tweets today, the reason the stock market falls is because the fake media keeps reporting fake news.

    The media couldn't have been anymore supportive for the stock market. Trump tweets because it is a one way communication, his way of having the last word.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    I'm not sure you can call today's losses a plunge, but people who have 401K's might be a bit concerned. People who play the market might call this an adjustment.
  • Center Left
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    Concerns over a rise in interest rates is a factor. We will see if tomorrow is a positive day with the market recovering or if the concerns cause a second day of losses.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Billions of trades a day. Billions of trades a day should relflect a significant GDP. NOT there. Billions of trades a day run up a significant trading bill. That is eating up retirement funds and 401s. The bull market has run too long without a normal profit taking. The next correction is going to destroy the retirement funds that are paying the day to day trading bill. Something has to pay the fee for billions of trades a day.

    What is the value.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Yes, yesterday Trump lambasted the federal reserve for raising rates. MSM today is reporting holders of 401k's are in a state of fear and loathing.

    It's possible that Trump might soon be attacking another one of his appointees.

    Jerome Hayden "Jay" Powell (born February 4, 1953) is the 16th and current Chairman of the Federal Reserve, serving in that office since February 2018. He was nominated to the Fed Chair position by President Donald Trump, and confirmed by the United States Senate.

  • Independent
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    I saw some graph's which clearly indicated that in the period of Obama things were "regular" in the market; he inherited Bush's mess and cleaned it up; in 2017 the new "mess" of Trump started and is escalating right now. The excuses are the interest rates, but that is not the case; it is more related to China and international rearrangements/economy and Trump's stupidity which he shows every day. BMW is now going to built an huge plant in China and will reduce it exposure here. In the meantime Sears will go broke as well Ford hangs on by a tread. Sorry but all of this is caused by the no brains Trump regime and "island" mentality, as I predicted.

    You can't BULLY the world without consequences.

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    Dutch Wrote:

    I saw some graph's which clearly indicated that in the period of Obama things were "regular" in the market; he inherited Bush's mess and cleaned it up; in 2017 the new "mess" of Trump started and is escalating right now. The excuses are the interest rates, but that is not the case; it is more related to China and international rearrangements/economy and Trump's stupidity which he shows every day. BMW is now going to built an huge plant in China and will reduce it exposure here. In the meantime Sears will go broke as well Ford hangs on by a tread. Sorry but all of this is caused by the no brains Trump regime and "island" mentality, as I predicted.

    You can't BULLY the world without consequences.

    I have to agree with you. When the DOW and others like NASDAQ are up, Trump takes credit for it touting his economic policies, I really don't believe he has a clue of how everything is supposed to work. Yeah, Ford lost $1B due to Trumps trade war, it's not funny because people are going to be losing their jobs.
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    Dutch Wrote:

    I saw some graph's which clearly indicated that in the period of Obama things were "regular" in the market; he inherited Bush's mess and cleaned it up; in 2017 the new "mess" of Trump started and is escalating right now. The excuses are the interest rates, but that is not the case; it is more related to China and international rearrangements/economy and Trump's stupidity which he shows every day. BMW is now going to built an huge plant in China and will reduce it exposure here. In the meantime Sears will go broke as well Ford hangs on by a tread. Sorry but all of this is caused by the no brains Trump regime and "island" mentality, as I predicted.

    You can't BULLY the world without consequences.

    Not too mention corporate and private debt have soared again.
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    The last few month the stock market had its worst results since 2008; especially the last weeks. The major reason is foreign politics and the "tariffs" as well the enormous debt related to Trumps tax cuts as well his own expenditure. Due to the total stupidity of the tariffs the world economy is slowing down, of course also other factors play a role. But yeah, Trump wants to add new additional tariffs, because China does not want to budge for his demands. I guess the stock market reacts to uncertainty, what is normal. However in this case it is the "bully" tactics which gets things out of balance. Also Trump/Ross have no clue about international trade; they forget that China does not want certain US made products; you can't push those through their throat. Neither can you sell Cadillacs to Europe with fuel prices of $8.- per gallon there. No brains I guess.

    The total financial imbalance in this country created by the tax cuts will eventually "bite" this country; you can't keep on wasting and run up deficits forever without consequences.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Multiple changes cannot be made to a system with predictable results. Trump is about cost and spending reductions. That is austerity. Blanket enormous financial reductions translates in loss of jobs and services. Contrary to his rhetoric claiming lots of good paying jobs and insurance for everybody.