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High speed train crash

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  • Dutch
    12-20-2017 02:06:39 PM
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    I sure had to laugh on how they described that accident; The "high speed?" train crashed in a "30 MPH zone" the highest speed was 80 MPH. What a laugh. The TGV ( Tres Grande Vitesse) in France is the real thing as well in some other advanced countries. In this case again it shows that the US is running about 20 or more years behind . In France there are no 30 MPH tracks on the TGV route; the high speed is about 150MPH. at certain stretches. Also the train itself has "claws" which prevents the train from leaving the track . Railroad engineering in this country is still way behind, let alone repairing the infrastructure for it, for which there is no money in the Trump reign. In FL you can't even go by train from Naples to Orlando; there is an old railroad track from the time Edison and Ford had their estates here; all rusting away. Sure; where does this make America great again; sorry this country is an total joke!!
  • wwjd
    12-21-2017 11:47:32 AM
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    I live within 25 miles of this accident, and use to drive that section of freeway everyday. The most recent reporting is that training was occuring at the time, and its possible the senior conductor was distracted by the training issues. Also, he might not have aware, or forgot, that the automatic speed reduction system had not been activated yet.

    yes, we are decade behind europe, but it seems more like centuries. I wish i had a better understanding of why because there is no reason why we can't adopt proven technology being used elsewhere in the world.

  • johnnycee
    12-22-2017 01:26:50 AM
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    We here in Philly had a similar train accident by which the conductor hit the curve going way to fast , several people died and quite a few injured, my question then and also towards this latest accident is, Why would a trained conductor go into a curve way to fast to sustain traction, forget speed reduction devices,somewhere along the line some common sense must prevail. The politicians and various talking heads on the so=called news channels will lay cause on everything but the lack of common sense.
  • wwjd
    12-22-2017 08:33:45 PM
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    It likely to be a perfect storm. ie, the warning system failed, and the backup warning system was down for repair; the conductor was distracted by another malfunctioning system that gave him tunnel vision, and the second on command was in the restroom, the third in command reported high speed to the conductor, but conductor did hear what was said, and then when the conductor understood they were traveling too fast, it was too late, etc, etc.

  • that guy in AZ
    03-03-2020 10:49:10 AM
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    The Washington Post this morning mentioned that Trump wants to LIFT the ban on transporting liquefied natural gas on trains. State and local politicians, firefighters' organizations, safety experts, environmentalists and the National Transportation Safety Board are critical of the proposed change.

    If you are wondering "what could possibly go wrong"?, look to the north.

    In July of 2013, an unattended train carrying Bakken Formation crude oil derailed, caught fire and exploded. Forty-two people were confirmed dead, with five more missing and presumed dead. More than 30 buildings in the town's center, roughly half of the downtown area, were destroyed, and all but three of the thirty-nine remaining downtown buildings had to be demolished due to petroleum contamination of the townsite.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac-M%C3%A9gantic_rail_disaster

  • Dutch
    03-03-2020 12:34:54 PM
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    AZ, An typo? "life" should that be "lift" ? Anyway you should know by now that these trains are "old" and not "high speed" at all. The tracks in this country at certain place are close to 100 years old, so what do you expect?

    Trump only cares about if he can get "kickbacks or "donations" from that industry; he does not care about "infrastructure" if he can't profit from it. He does not care about the health/safety of the country or the people in it.

    The stupid GOP voters have no clue whatsoever what this "monster" is all about.

  • that guy in AZ
    03-03-2020 04:30:48 PM
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    Thanks, Dutch. Auto correct often does strange things.
  • that guy in AZ
    03-03-2020 04:43:34 PM
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    Dutch:

    I'm not sure if Trump is getting kickbacks from the railroads, but an article in Forbes from about a year ago helps to explain why the railroads might want to carry more liquefied natural gas.

    It's because Trump's economy is "coming off the rails:.

    Shipments by both truck and rail are down substantially. Overall, rail ships were down almost 6% from 2018. The only categories that are about are shipments of chemicals and petroleum products. As a result, shipments of safer products and going down, and shipments of more hazardous products are going up.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/06/10/trumps-economy-is-literally-coming-off-the-rails/#7a71675e607d

    As you can see in the link below, railroad accidents are very common:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_railroad_accidents

  • Dockadams
    03-05-2020 05:44:02 PM
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    If I could stay awake all night long, I'd probably be able to count at least 15 or 20 trains that pass through my town. Some haul coal to Oak Creek and Milwaukee, and I'm sure some haul oil and other hazardous materials. I am of the belief that it's not a matter of IF, but WHEN a major derailment occurs and depending upon which way the winds blow, we might have to leave the city. We've already had several minor derailments with no consequences as yet.
  • wwjd
    03-05-2020 08:36:07 PM
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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    In July of 2013, an unattended train carrying Bakken Formation crude oil derailed, caught fire and exploded. Forty-two people were confirmed dead, with five more missing and presumed dead. More than 30 buildings in the town's center, roughly half of the downtown area, were destroyed, and all but three of the thirty-nine remaining downtown buildings had to be demolished due to petroleum contamination of the townsite.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac-M%C3%A9gantic_rail_disaster

    Trump: "So? it's part of the cost of doing business. It's really no big deal"

  • Dutch
    03-07-2020 09:04:01 AM
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    Talking about an "high speed" train crash; Trump appointed Meadows as his "assistance" ; this guy is about the dumbest there is and the worst you can get. Trump knows how to "pick" them !!! But he's "loyal" that counts.
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