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    For those who did not see Donna Brazile on Morning Joe today (11-07-2017).

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    Thanks for sharing that. Cancer kills so a powerful word choice.

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    Lost bigly..... yes Mrs. Clinton lost Bigly thus the American people lost. I know you were talking Bernie but Hillary also lost when it mattered most

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    TJ Wrote: Lost bigly..... yes Mrs. Clinton lost Bigly thus the American people lost. I know you were talking Bernie but Hillary also lost when it mattered most

    Yea...by winning three million more votes than the Great Orange Neanderthal. I'd hardly call that a bigly loss...


    Regardless - Donna Brazile is backtracking faster than Michael Jackson was able to do his moonwalk.

    She's backtracking because she knows what she claimed is dramatically stretching the truth at best and a flat out lie at worst.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    TJ Wrote: Lost bigly..... yes Mrs. Clinton lost Bigly thus the American people lost. I know you were talking Bernie but Hillary also lost when it mattered most

    Yea...by winning three million more votes than the Great Orange Neanderthal. I'd hardly call that a bigly loss...


    Regardless - Donna Brazile is backtracking faster than Michael Jackson was able to do his moonwalk.

    She's backtracking because she knows what she claimed is dramatically stretching the truth at best and a flat out lie at worst.

    No, Jared she lost; thank the system here; the gerrymandering; the super Pac's; the electoral college; the "arrogance'; the DNC ( Wasserman woman) I know you are in love with Hillary ; but reality hurts. Patriotism or flag waving does not change this country; change the system that's all what is needed as well stop the "money" corruption in elections.
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    Dutch Wrote: No, Jared she lost; thank the system here; the gerrymandering; the super Pac's; the electoral college; the "arrogance'; the DNC ( Wasserman woman) I know you are in love with Hillary ; but reality hurts. Patriotism or flag waving does not change this country;

    I'm in love with Hillary?! I actually hoped that Senators Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar ran. I also wanted NY Governor Andrew Cuomo to throw his hat in the race. To be honest, I would have voted for any of them over Secretary Clinton, but none of them decided to run and I was faced with the choice of Clinton, Sanders, two former Republicans, and a gaffe prone governor with zero name recognition.

    I chose the person I thought would win. I didn't agree with everything she said, but at least she wasn't a snake oil salesman who promised the world without explaining how that world would be delivered. (I'm not talking about Donald.)

    Dutch Wrote: change the system that's all what is needed as well stop the "money" corruption in elections.

    How do you suggest we change the system? By constantly complaining about it? How's that worked out for you so far?

    I agree. Let's stop the corruption. You know how we can do that? By actually showing up to the polls and electing candidates who promise to confirm a Supreme Court Justice who will vote to overturn Citizens United. Or we can just hide behind our computers and continue to bitch about everything because that's a hell of a lot easier, huh?

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    TJ Wrote:

    Thanks for sharing that. Cancer kills so a powerful word choice.

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    Lost bigly..... yes Mrs. Clinton lost Bigly thus the American people lost. I know you were talking Bernie but Hillary also lost when it mattered most

    Not exactly.
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    If she hadn't lost she would be doing presidential things.

    She's not.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: No, Jared she lost; thank the system here; the gerrymandering; the super Pac's; the electoral college; the "arrogance'; the DNC ( Wasserman woman) I know you are in love with Hillary ; but reality hurts. Patriotism or flag waving does not change this country;

    I'm in love with Hillary?! I actually hoped that Senators Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar ran. I also wanted NY Governor Andrew Cuomo to throw his hat in the race. To be honest, I would have voted for any of them over Secretary Clinton, but none of them decided to run and I was faced with the choice of Clinton, Sanders, two former Republicans, and a gaffe prone governor with zero name recognition.

    I chose the person I thought would win. I didn't agree with everything she said, but at least she wasn't a snake oil salesman who promised the world without explaining how that world would be delivered. (I'm not talking about Donald.)

    Dutch Wrote: change the system that's all what is needed as well stop the "money" corruption in elections.

    How do you suggest we change the system? By constantly complaining about it? How's that worked out for you so far?

    I agree. Let's stop the corruption. You know how we can do that? By actually showing up to the polls and electing candidates who promise to confirm a Supreme Court Justice who will vote to overturn Citizens United. Or we can just hide behind our computers and continue to bitch about everything because that's a hell of a lot easier, huh?

    I suggested on how to change the system; I'm not a politician, neither do I have any influence on our government; I only use "freedom of speech" to give my opinion. How can you stop corruption? I told you a million times start by adding lots of amendments to the Constitution to bring it into the 21st century; rewrite on how elections should be run "without" billions of money or "lobbying" (as they do in Europe) as well have only "votes" count. Supreme court Justices should be "term limited" . All of this should be part of the Democratic platform; which they refuse to list this, because they love the Super Pac money flowing to them. Thus forget it!

    Regardless of what I keep writing, this country will stick with the corruption ( they can't do without; it is in their blood), wrong voting laws/rules, no proper vetting of their leaders; a two party system which is polarized; billionaires who "buy" their candidates; as well an "non educated big part" of the country. No Jared; I can't change things here ( I'm not Trump,who alone can fix all the problems in this country); I can only point to the stupidity, which goes on and on forever here on this arrogant island. Therefore I stay behind my computer and say what is the case here. But I guess the sleepy heads here don't want "progress" and stick to their "established 1800's ways. Even all the "voters" can't change this, if my idea's are not promoted on the ballot.

    Sorry I'm a "nothing" in this country; so are you; If we both would have billions then may be we can have some influence.

    That's all folks!

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    Dutch Wrote: I suggested on how to change the system; I'm not a politician, neither do I have any influence on our government; I only use "freedom of speech" to give my opinion.

    You absolutely have the freedom to state your opinion. That freedom is given to you thanks to our Constitution.

    Dutch Wrote: How can you stop corruption? I told you a million times start by adding lots of amendments to the Constitution to bring it into the 21st century; rewrite on how elections should be run "without" billions of money or "lobbying" (as they do in Europe) as well have only "votes" count.

    Article V of our Constitution mandates it can only be changed one of two ways - 2/3 of both houses of Congress pass a resolution and 3/4 of the states ratify it or 2/3 of the participants in a constitutional convention pass a resolution and 3/4 of the states ratify it.

    The Supreme Court ruled in Citizens United that corporations are people. The Supreme Court is the final arbiter in our country. The only remedy is to pass a Constitutional Amendment to overrule their decision or elect enough liberal justices to the court who are willing to overrule it.

    The former is likelier than the latter because the Supreme Court rarely overturns its own decisions.

    Dutch Wrote: Supreme court Justices should be "term limited" .

    Tell that to the Notorious RBG.

    I don't necessarily have a problem with term limits on federal judges, but that would also require a Constitutional Amendment. Article III, Section 1 is quite specific. They get to serve as long as they choose. A federal judge can only be removed if 218 Representatives and 67 Senators vote to remove them.

    Dutch Wrote: All of this should be part of the Democratic platform; which they refuse to list this, because they love the Super Pac money flowing to them. Thus forget it!

    I'd suggest it's not part of the Democratic Party platform because there's still some people in the Democratic Party who aren't snake oil salesmen that promise the world without being honest about how that world can be delivered.

    What you're proposing would require multiple amendments to our Constitution, most of which certainly wouldn't pass in our current political environment. Yes, many European countries impose term limits on judges, but we don't live in a European country. We live here and we live with the Constitution we have.

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    Jared, your reply says it all; in other words "nothing" will be changed here for the better. Thanks; I know enough. Don't blame me if this country ends up as Venezuela. Amen
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    A democratic run congress can get rid of the citizens United disaster.

    You want to discuss Donna , for claiming that Clinton rigged the DNC , but let me remind you , joe Byden could have easily run and won but he stepped aside . That is very unusual in presidential politics. Why did he do that ?

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    The truth is the Democratic Party is dependent on Corporate funding but will never get the billions the Republicans get and you need either a lot of funding or citizen participation to win an election and that is why Bernie was so good for the party and the democratic party treated him and his followers with contempt and shunted them aside, Bernie should have started his own party and he would have gotten the Independents, greens, environmentalists, gays, conservationists and feminists. The DNC is to busy bowing and scraping to the Corporatists for funds and those Corporatists don't like Bernie's followers and that's why Bernie has been treated so badly.
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    progressiveconnie Wrote: The truth is the Democratic Party is dependent on Corporate funding but will never get the billions the Republicans get and you need either a lot of funding or citizen participation to win an election and that is why Bernie was so good for the party and the democratic party treated him and his followers with contempt and shunted them aside,

    Bernie is the reason Donald "won" the election. Bernie or busters in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania decided that a serial sexual predator was better than a moderate liberal. Thanks, Bernie or busters. I hope it was worth it.

    Bernie or busters are terrible human beings who deserves a special place in the hell I don't believe in.

    progressiveconnie Wrote: Bernie should have started his own party and he would have gotten the Independents, greens, environmentalists, gays, conservationists and feminists. The DNC is to busy bowing and scraping to the Corporatists for funds and those Corporatists don't like Bernie's followers and that's why Bernie has been treated so badly.

    We would have had the same result. The Democratic ticket would have split and the Republican ticket would have stuck together.

    Democrats fall in love, while Republicans fall in line.

    You're a very angry and misinformed person Connie. I feel sorry for you.

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    Ever seen a 12 year old girl whining about something that seems inconsequential ? That's how you sound jared. Is it inconsequential ? Obviously not, but the party let down. Blame whomever fits your agenda but the party let you down.

    Is it better now ? Hell No!!!! Recent wins were not by the party. Recent wins are because we have a smelly dirt ball in chief who has annoyed the masses. Try caffeinated coffee.

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    TJ Wrote:

    Ever seen a 12 year old girl whining about something that seems inconsequential ? That's how you sound jared. Is it inconsequential ? Obviously not, but the party let down. Blame whomever fits your agenda but the party let you down.

    Is it better now ? Hell No!!!! Recent wins were not by the party. Recent wins are because we have a smelly dirt ball in chief who has annoyed the masses. Try caffeinated coffee.

    T.J. yes correct. as I have said a million times; the system here is broken. Get rid of the lobbyists; electoral college; educate the people here; get a multiple party system; get the "money" out of elections; rewrite the Constitution to reflect 2017; do proper vetting for Presidents and functions in the government (re; education, knowledge of the world, leadership qualities, having the right background, education, common sense knowledge etc.) Term limits for all higher functions. As long as these subjects are not dealt with; forget it here. Obama was educated in Indonesia; it showed that he knew more of the world than ever Mr Bullshit Trump will.