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    Crooks and Liars: Trump Aide George Papadopoulos May Be The Russia Connection 'Deep Throat'

    The title speaks for itself.

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    He was arrested in July ? Imagine being a fly on the wall the first 90 minutes. The first 24 hours.

    My first thought is risk management. The issues are refocused while any and all evidence is at least compromised and more often than not destroyed.

    We control so little yet we want to catch the very large fish.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Crooks and Liars: Trump Aide George Papadopoulos May Be The Russia Connection 'Deep Throat'

    The title speaks for itself.

    NBC is reporting the same thing, although it's unclear if he's actually met with anyone from the White House after he began cooperating with the FBI.

    These indictments, as VP Biden famously said, is a big f-ing deal. It will be very interesting to see how Donald reacts these upcoming days.

    It's been reported that he's having lunch with Pence and Sessions today. I wonder if he's going to push Sessions to fire Rod Rosenstein, which would undoubtedly spark a Constitutional crisis. The only thing is that I don't think Donald cares if he starts a Constitutional crisis because the only thing he cares about is protecting himself.

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    Since Meuller used the word conspire in the indictment , the fat idiot cannot pardon because he is a co conspirator . Any interference by the fat idiot would be obstruction. Popolopolous is the guy who pled guilty to lying to the FBI already , he is in the center of the effort to collude with Russia , that is called espionage . And that is a very serious crime. The fat idiot is going down and he knows it . Look for him to abscond to Russia with his crime family and associates . They are planning their escape now. No longer working on destroying our government, now just working on the get away plan.
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Yes, what Trump fears most in my opinion is that the many secrets of his Trump organization dealings way in the past and present are exposed, and perhaps showing that he does not have the wealth that he claims. If he is exposed for hiding his true financial worth to lenders, his whole Trump empire could come crashing down in a hurry with bank foreclosures, lawsuits, and maybe even indictments. That would be a scenario worse than being impeached.

    Before any of that happened though, look for Trump to try again and fire Muller as well as issuing pardons to all the perps.


    Bingo!... what he fears most is being exposed and the impact it will have on him financially. Maybe he has a billion in assets, but its all mortgaged and in reality, the banks really own it all.

    You are also right he is a baffoon. I work in the IT business, and it soo easy to flush out those who claim to be experts, from those who are experts. Just ask them a few key questions and see how they respond. The experts will nail the questions quickly, while the fakers dance around it, change the subject, etc. trump reaction to nearly all public questions is that he loves to bluff to create the illusion that he is an expert on nearly everything.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Crooks and Liars: Trump Aide George Papadopoulos May Be The Russia Connection 'Deep Throat'

    The title speaks for itself.

    Let hope that all\most of this is true, and he takes down trump.

    If it is true, we shall see trump abusing his powers as president to protect himself. And because he is so impulsive, he likely to do\say things that are very self-destructive, and even worse things that harm the innocent people and the nation. If he feels, much like how Hilter had to feel near the end of WWII, that everything is collapsing around him, trump will escalate matters point the point that will cause his own staff to either flee or to public call for him to resign.

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    What happens to those who say negative things against Russia ?

    Dead man walking.

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    If trump know any of these three indited men has directly damaging info that connects him to Russia, he is shitting and pissing in his pants right now because he knows is is a dead man walking.

    Here is my humorous Godfather-like advice to trump: "Relax your president, you're never going jail. You got caught lying, so what! Everybody knows you lie, everyday. Even your base know you're a big fucking liar, that is why they love you. Just fake having a heart attack in a few days. We'll hire some quack doctor, like Dr. Oz, to fake medical records saying your on verge of imminent death if you don't resign immediately, and course, state you need to spend the next 6 month playing golf at mar-a-largo. Pence will take over, which will turn you into an instant hero with the establishment republicans and your base at the same time. Pence will have you come back every now and then for bogus "Advisory meetings" to make it you like some amazing man that came back from the dead. Media will leave you alone because they don't want t be seen as attacking an true american icon and hero; the media may even embrace your new role"

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    I still think it will take a long time yet before it's Trumps turn. As I said many times in the past: follow the money trail. His tax returns (or no tax returns at all) "they are always under audit" should be his downfall if Mueller got them or did not get them. In the case he did not file his taxes at all for years, that will be an criminal act itself . He hangs for that alone!
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    Dutch Wrote:

    This is how it ends; enjoy!!

    l.php

    I watched and enjoyed. I wonder when the FBI is going to get around to arresting the rest of them, I'd like to see Bannon in cuffs.
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    This is the text of the Manafort / Gates indictment:

    justice.gov/file/1007271/download

    click on link to read entire document

    "INDICTMENT
    i The Grand Jury for the District ofColumbia charges: case: 1:17-cr-00201 l Assigned To : Judge Jackson, Amy Berman ] lntrnduction Assign. Date : 10/27/2017 \ Description: INDICTMENT (8) ] At all times relevant to this Indictment:
    1. Defendants PAUL J. MANAFORT, JR., (MANAFORT) and RICHARD W. GATES III
    (GATES) served for years as political consultants and lobbyists. Between at least 2006 and 2015,
    MANAFORT and GATES acted as unregistered agents ofthe Government ofUkraine, the Party
    ofRegions ( a Ukrainian political party whose leader Victor Y anukovych was President from 201 O
    to 2014), Yanukovych, and the Opposition Bloc (a successor to the Patty ofRegions that fo1med
    in 2014 when Yanukovych fled to Russia). MANAFORT and GATES generated tens ofmillions
    of dollars in income as a result of their Ukraine work. In order to hide Ukraine payments from
    United States authorities, from approximately 2006 through at least 2016, MANAFORT and
    GATES laundered the money through scores of United States and foreign corporations,
    partnerships, and bank accounts. "

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    So now, Trumps admits paying off a hooker, how about due process for him?
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    Dockadams Wrote: So now, Trumps admits paying off a hooker, how about due process for him?


    yes, even if prostitution is a misdemeanor crime.

    The problem is the sitting president can not be charged with any crimes, he can only be impeached. Trump could be caught on video having sex with underage girls, and the GOP would say "oh my gosh, that is very very wrong", but do nothing because fear a political backlash.

    trump's base maybe appalled by trump's behavior and criminal activity, but he has convinced them he will deliver to them 110% of everything they want, so they don't give a damn if he abuses women, throws people under a bus, or steals candy from babies, just as long he keeps them believing he's going to deliver.... Its making a deal with the devil mentality.

    From his base's perspective, its a warped version of The Magnificent Seven. Hire somebody who has a team of amoral and fucked people who are willing to go to the dark side, fuck people over without remorse, to take control of the town. The con that is being perpetrated by trump on his own base is that trump is not that anti-hero who has arrived to save them, he is a second rate, over weight, con man that rides into town, lies to everyone that he will save them from the evil and corrupt leaders if they make him sheriff, but what he is really doing is nothing more than taking from them what is of value to him, leaving them worse off than before he came. He is stealing what he wants from all sides.

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    Yeah JD, it seems that the GOP is backing him 100%. Nobody has the guts to say anything against him. They fear because Trump uses twitter to lambaste people of his own party. IMO, he should be banned from twitter because that is no way to be governing. You don't fire people using social media, you just don't.
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    His base is not a majority. They're faithful voters though. People have their individual views. Hopefully someone will suggest that voters can solve problems if they and their friends, cousins, neighbors, coworkers, and whomever else vote as well.