Ad Campaign: Need to Impeach
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Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution says, "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The House impeaches but the Senate needs a super majority (67 Senators) to convict and remove from office. Early in Trump's term I might have agreed that impeachment and removal from office or resignation was likely, but now I think that outcome is highly unlikely after seeing how tribal the Republicans can be on almost all matters. Party first. Trump and the propaganda outlet Fox News has also effectively "brain washed" a sizable portion of the populace into thinking that the whole Russian collusion investigation is a charade, and that the media is obsessed with "fake news" against him. We've discussed all the possible reasons for impeachment and conviction in other posts so I won't regurgitate those here. Trump will serve out his term, and I believe has a 50:50 chance of being reelected to another four year term. Trump is a master con artist, perhaps the best ever in knowing how to tap into the dark side of people's emotions and telling them what they want to hear . The people who support him may even suspect they are being conned, but don't really care. They vote their emotions in huge numbers. My view...
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Schmidt Wrote:Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution says, "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The House impeaches but the Senate needs a super majority (67 Senators) to convict and remove from office. Early in Trump's term I might have agreed that impeachment and removal from office or resignation was likely, but now I think that outcome is highly unlikely after seeing how tribal the Republicans can be on almost all matters. Party first. Trump and the propaganda outlet Fox News has also effectively "brain washed" a sizable portion of the populace into thinking that the whole Russian collusion investigation is a charade, and that the media is obsessed with "fake news" against him. We've discussed all the possible reasons for impeachment and conviction in other posts so I won't regurgitate those here. Trump will serve out his term, and I believe has a 50:50 chance of being reelected to another four year term. Trump is a master con artist, perhaps the best ever in knowing how to tap into the dark side of people's emotions and telling them what they want to hear . The people who support him may even suspect they are being conned, but don't really care. They vote their emotions in huge numbers. My view... I'm afraid that your view is correct, unless Mueller can prove otherwise. But one thing is for sure; this country will go downhill fast.
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Schmidt Wrote:The letter in the above website asking to impeach Trump states: "Whether by the nature of Mr. Trump’s relationship with Vladimir Putin and Russia, his willingness to exploit the office of the Presidency for his personal gain and treat the government like a family enterprise, his conduct during Charlottesville, his decision to pull out of the Paris climate accords, or his seeming determination to take the nation to war, he has violated the Constitution, the office of the Presidency, and the trust of the public. He is a clear and present danger to the United States of America." I am not of the belief that these would qualify as "treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors" in the eyes of most Republican members of Congress. You're probably right if thing stay the same and do not getting any worse. If his behavior becomes "Obvious" signs of mental illness, then it will be easy to pull the trigger on him. Unlike with Regan where his staff covered up well enough that the public did not find out about Regan's problems until after he left office. Typically with people that already have serious personality problems prior to mental illness such as Alzheimer's, their personality problems become far far worse and do not respond to friends\family efforts to keep things under control. With trump, he wouldn't need to go to much further to cross over boundaries that would force him from office. It is easy to imagine him tweeting "That fucking bitch is whore and everyone knows it", or come up with a racist slur nick name like "Little Black Sambo Obama". He is already pushing so many unacceptable borders, that mental illness would push him in behavior that would even alarm his own base. If he does start showing signs of mental illiness, his family will notice it first and surely be the ones to seek to have him resign to keep him doing horrible things that destroy whatever respect he has left. A bit like when a family takes away the car keys from someone before they kill themselves and others.
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Democrats who think Donald will be impeached are living in an alternate universe. Republicans control the House and Senate. You can dream all you want, but they aren't going to move to remove him from office. Even if Democrats somehow retake the House (which is extremely unlikely if you understand the Congressional map in 2018) they would need to convince roughly two dozen Republican Senators to vote to remove Donald from office. That's as likely as you getting struck by lightning three times in one day in this current political environment. Americans need to understand who or what they are voting for when they "pull the lever." Our Constitution makes it very difficult to remove a President from office once they are elected. Donald could literally shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and if 34 Senators say "well, he is still a good guy!" then he can remain in office. We have the Constitution we have. The courts can't tell Donald he's fired. The military has to listen to Donald if he orders a nuclear attack. This is why I will never, ever forgive Bernie or busters. They didn't take any of that into account. They don't understand how our government functions. They just want to have their cake and to eat it too. Thanks, guys. I hope Donald potentially bringing about the end of the world was worth it for you.
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jaredsxtn Wrote:Democrats who think Donald will be impeached are living in an alternate universe. Republicans control the House and Senate. You can dream all you want, but they aren't going to move to remove him from office. Even if Democrats somehow retake the House (which is extremely unlikely if you understand the Congressional map in 2018) they would need to convince roughly two dozen Republican Senators to vote to remove Donald from office. That's as likely as you getting struck by lightning three times in one day in this current political environment. Americans need to understand who or what they are voting for when they "pull the lever." Our Constitution makes it very difficult to remove a President from office once they are elected. Donald could literally shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and if 34 Senators say "well, he is still a good guy!" then he can remain in office. We have the Constitution we have. The courts can't tell Donald he's fired. The military has to listen to Donald if he orders a nuclear attack. This is why I will never, ever forgive Bernie or busters. They didn't take any of that into account. They don't understand how our government functions. They just want to have their cake and to eat it too. Thanks, guys. I hope Donald potentially bringing about the end of the world was worth it for you. I voted for Hillary; there was no other choice. I blame the Democratic party by neglecting the rural States with the right message, which put Trump in the saddle. Even now the DNC leadership is nowhere to be found; did you see Perez lately? I don't even remember what he looked like!!
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