Senator Jeff Flake Excoriates Donald in Retirement Speech [2]

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11-01-2017 01:30:35 PM

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I read somewhere, probably a right wing internet rag that Flake and Corker's resignations are signs of weakness, that they didn't want to endure facing up to the bully in chief. I don't see it that way, and I hope Americans see it for what it is, enough is enough.

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11-01-2017 04:20:06 PM

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Dockadams Wrote: I read somewhere, probably a right wing internet rag that Flake and Corker's resignations are signs of weakness, that they didn't want to endure facing up to the bully in chief. I don't see it that way, and I hope Americans see it for what it is, enough is enough.

My opinions of Senators Flake and Corker have ebbed and flowed in the past few days. One part of me thinks that it's commendable they are taking a stand and calling Donald out, but the other part of me recognizes that they vote for Donald's priorities nearly 100% of the time.

Both of these Senators have the ability to grind Donald's agenda to a screeching halt. Either one of them can refuse to grant unanimous consent on any and everything, which would force the Senate to spend hours, days, or even longer to bring a bill to the floor, but they have shown no willingness to use the expansive powers every single Senator has. They could also band together and refuse to vote on anything until the person they both consider to be a threat to our democracy is removed from office.

They are doing neither. All they are doing is saying "Donald is a threat to the very foundation of our democracy, but he'll still sign our tax cuts into law." That's not strength.

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11-02-2017 04:51:40 AM

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jaredsxtn Wrote:
Dockadams Wrote: I read somewhere, probably a right wing internet rag that Flake and Corker's resignations are signs of weakness, that they didn't want to endure facing up to the bully in chief. I don't see it that way, and I hope Americans see it for what it is, enough is enough.
My opinions of Senators Flake and Corker have ebbed and flowed in the past few days. One part of me thinks that it's commendable they are taking a stand and calling Donald out, but the other part of me recognizes that they vote for Donald's priorities nearly 100% of the time.
Both of these Senators have the ability to grind Donald's agenda to a screeching halt. Either one of them can refuse to grant unanimous consent on any and everything, which would force the Senate to spend hours, days, or even longer to bring a bill to the floor, but they have shown no willingness to use the expansive powers every single Senator has. They could also band together and refuse to vote on anything until the person they both consider to be a threat to our democracy is removed from office.
They are doing neither. All they are doing is saying "Donald is a threat to the very foundation of our democracy, but he'll still sign our tax cuts into law." That's not strength.

I understand the point of being gutless. I was kind of hoping other GOP members would fall in line to revolt, in some way or another, we hear that quite a few GOP'ers are quietly against Trump's policies, but they're gutless too when they just go along with the program and don't say anything, it makes them as guilty as their leader. Maybe Flake and Corker should have stuck it out and brought Trump's agenda to a screeching halt, you have made a good point here, thanks for enlightening me.

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11-29-2018 10:56:42 AM

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I read in the conservative Townhall this morning that Jeff Flake is withholding his vote on ALL judicial appointments until Mitch McConnell brings to a vote legislation to protect Robert Mueller. In effect, Jeff Flake is obstructing the obstructionist, so I sent him a thank you note this morning.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/11/28/sen-jeff-flakes-nauseating-obstructionism-over-protect-mueller-bill-delayed-21-n2536686

Townhall was started in 1995 as one of the first conservative internet communities. In 2005, Townhall.com split off from The Heritage Foundation, and was sold to the Salem Media Group. Salem targets audiences interested in Christian broadcasting, and what it describes as "family-themed content and conservative values.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townhall

The Heritage Foundation has roots that go back to 1973. The foundation took a leading role in the conservative movement during the presidency of Ronald Reagan, whose policies were taken from Heritage's policy study Mandate for Leadership. Heritage has since continued to have a significant influence in U.S. public policy making, and is considered to be one of the most influential conservative research organizations in the United States.

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11-29-2018 10:43:06 PM

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Believe it or not, Senator Flake actually responds to letters from his constituents. I received this letter TODAY from him:

Dear xxxxx:

Thank you for contacting me about investigations into alleged ties between members of the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Currently, five investigations into this matter are underway.

The House and Senate Select Committees on Intelligence are each investigating Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and any collusion that may have taken place between the Trump campaign and Russia. The Senate Judiciary Committee is examining the dismissal of National Security Advisor Michael Flynn and former FBI Director James Comey and the circumstances surrounding those dismissals. The House Oversight Committee is looking into specific contacts Michael Flynn may have had with Russian officials and payments he received from foreign governments.

Lastly, on May 17, 2017, former FBI Director Robert Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to serve as Special Counsel for the ongoing criminal probe into ties between the campaign of then-candidate Trump and the Russian government, and any efforts made to impede that investigation. The original investigation initiated by former FBI Director Comey continues.

I support the efforts of the standing committees of both chambers of Congress to investigate this matter, and I agree with the appointment of a Special Counsel by the Department of Justice. As long as these investigations continue to be conducted in an appropriate manner, I do not believe that yet another select committee is needed, nor do I think appointments of further special or independent prosecutors are necessary at this time.

The matters under investigation are grave and I take the conduct of these probes seriously. Getting to the bottom of these allegations and reports is important not only for national security, but it is also critical to maintaining confidence in our democratic system.

Thank you again for contacting me. Please do not hesitate to do so again in the future. I also encourage you to visit my website, which may be found at flake.senate.gov.

Sincerely,

JEFF FLAKE
United States Senator

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Unless you are wearing rose colored sunglasses, it seems that Trump is absolutely screwed. For our Dear Leader, it's going to be a sad world for quite a while:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0QwV-U9v2w

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