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  • Dutch
    2017-10-12 08:41:30 AM
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    The "idiot" wants to "censor " the press ( of course NBC, ABC, CNN etc.); One (R) senator asked if he had forgotten the oath he took. If he wants to do that it would be an cause for impeachment. However I think it would be a great idea to shut down FOX news as well Breitbard. They are the real "threat" to our country.
  • Maindawg
    2017-10-12 02:43:24 PM
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    It is illegal , very illegal to use mass hypnosis through media in this country as in all countries. Believe it or not , it was being used in the early days of radio both here and in Europe. Today we have Fox news who I believe uses subtle forms of hypnosis that are effective upon certain types of people. The flashing lights behind the announcers is one way they do this. Hypnosis . It's evil. And it's why they make so many formerly normal people addicted to their noise. Mass hypnosis is being used by Fox news .
  • jaredsxtn
    2017-10-12 03:15:53 PM
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    Donald is an idiot.

    NBC doesn't has a license to broadcast anything- local stations do. You can't revoke a license that doesn't exist.

    He can try to wage a war on the free press, but that would be a war he will most certainly lose.

    Donald doesn't like stories that make him look like a bumbling idiot, but that doesn't mean he has any legal means to shut down the New York Times or Washington Post.

    What's he going to do? Order the National Guard to occupy their buildings spread out across dozens of states? What about the journalists who work for them? Will he order the internet be shut down so they can't get their stories out? If so then his gullible followers wouldn't be able to watch InfoWars or Rush Limbaugh sitting in a chair yelling into his gold microphone.

    I will disagree with you about taking Fox "News" and other right wing media (and I use that term very liberally) off the air. Freedom of press doesn't mean that the only press that should be allowed are the ones we like.

    Alex Jones has as much right to spew his conspiracy theory nonsense as the New York Times does in reporting the truth. I believe Alex Jones should be held liable if one of his followers listens to his nonsense and then goes and commits a crime in his name. I also think the NRA and gun manufactures should be held liable for mass shootings. Unfortunately those are my thoughts and not the law.

    Fake news has been around for centuries and clamping down on organizations that publish things we don't always agree with isn't going to stop people from publishing fake or misleading stories. It's on the news consumer to not fall prey to blatantly false stories. The only thing the internet has done is bring fake news into the mainstream.

  • TJ
    2017-10-12 09:16:57 PM
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    Maindawg Wrote: It is illegal , very illegal to use mass hypnosis through media in this country as in all countries. Believe it or not , it was being used in the early days of radio both here and in Europe. Today we have Fox news who I believe uses subtle forms of hypnosis that are effective upon certain types of people. The flashing lights behind the announcers is one way they do this. Hypnosis . It's evil. And it's why they make so many formerly normal people addicted to their noise. Mass hypnosis is being used by Fox news .

    I entirely agree with you. Since the start of it all I have wondered WHY logic and reason were not part of this presidency or administration. It goes from the top to the bottom and it entirely defies any logic. I know the crazy words like hypnosis and mesmorized are crazy and not reasonable. Has anyone been paying any attention at all the last 16 months ?!?!?! It's an F'ing mess and it gets worse minute by minute.

    As crazy as it seems..... logic is gone. Logic would scream out that no way Russia would get involved with our social media or an election. No way would the crazy bullshit be the opening story on the news night after night times 400.

  • Maindawg
    2017-10-12 10:43:25 PM
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    Fox news fought all the way to the supreme Court for the right to be a fake news program.

    Canada does not permit Fox news to broadcast in Canada . They are fraud inc.

    They are using propaganda techniques .

    What they are doing is evil.

  • Dockadams
    2017-10-13 04:54:46 AM
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    A Trump idea, or Bannon's, to license a journalist? The over reach of government, licensing the press, by the same ones who wanted government to stop over reach, imagine that. Our democracy is in jeopardy.
  • wwjd
    2017-10-13 07:12:19 AM
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    Who really believe this is anything other than trump taking a piss through tweeter.

    Preview of next week tweet topics:

    • Eliminate the entire US public education system. Home school or private school.
    • Death penalty for women who have abortions.
    • Judges should use bible when making legal rules.

    Response: Base rallies behind trump, media is appalled for 1 week. Nothing changes

    One year from now trump tweet topics:

    • Claims has proof that NASA faked moon landings. Demands Investigation
    • Propose the US be renamed to "United States of Christianity"
    • Nicknames Barack Obama "Monkey Boy Obama"

    Response: Base rallies behind trump, media is appalled for 1 week. Nothing changes

    ... and so it goes.


  • TJ
    2017-10-13 07:33:27 AM
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    Wwjd, In a sick way it would almost be comical if it wasn't a working agenda. If it wasn't a twisted approach. It's sick and appalling.
  • Dockadams
    2017-10-13 08:38:26 AM
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    wwjd Wrote:

    Who really believe this is anything other than trump taking a piss through tweeter.

    Preview of next week tweet topics:

    • Eliminate the entire US public education system. Home school or private school.
    • Death penalty for women who have abortions.
    • Judges should use bible when making legal rules.

    Response: Base rallies behind trump, media is appalled for 1 week. Nothing changes

    One year from now trump tweet topics:

    • Claims has proof that NASA faked moon landings. Demands Investigation
    • Propose the US be renamed to "United States of Christianity"
    • Nicknames Barack Obama "Monkey Boy Obama"

    Response: Base rallies behind trump, media is appalled for 1 week. Nothing changes

    ... and so it goes.

    And it's not a laughing matter either, any of those things might happen. I hope the high court or the congress does something before the whack job in chief goes any farther.
  • Chet Ruminski
    2017-10-13 12:33:16 PM
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    I think it has a lot to do with Harvey Weinstein. Everything that Harvey has done is very similar to what Trump confessed to Billy Bush. Trump described what he had done to women not what he wanted to do. Trump claims locker room talk. So what? He related actual actions to Billy. I would like to see a girl come forward and substantiate his actions of groping girls private parts. He would then be susceptible to accoutability the same as Weinstein is going through now. Trump is doing everything to divert from Weistein.
  • wwjd
    2017-10-13 04:48:25 PM
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    TJ Wrote: Wwjd, In a sick way it would almost be comical if it wasn't a working agenda. If it wasn't a twisted approach. It's sick and appalling.

    Imagine if we could go back 10 years in time, and show ourselves news footage from today. Our younger selves would say "No fucking way is any of that shit real"

    This is crap that can't be put into a fictional novel because it too absurd to believed unless it is satire.

  • wwjd
    2017-10-13 04:57:27 PM
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: I think it has a lot to do with Harvey Weinstein. Everything that Harvey has done is very similar to what Trump confessed to Billy Bush. Trump described what he had done to women not what he wanted to do. Trump claims locker room talk. So what? He related actual actions to Billy. I would like to see a girl come forward and substantiate his actions of groping girls private parts. He would then be susceptible to accoutability the same as Weinstein is going through now. Trump is doing everything to divert from Weistein.

    What is most curious is that there has not be a huge breaking story along these lines. Why did it end at Bill Bush?

    Clearly if trump had a pattern of doing crap like Weinstein and Bill O'Reilly, there would be more than just the billy bush story. I suspect there is more, but since Billy Bush, there has been zero.

  • wwjd
    2017-10-13 06:08:55 PM
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    Dockadams Wrote: And it's not a laughing matter either, any of those things might happen. I hope the high court or the congress does something before the whack job in chief goes any farther.

    People were motivated to vote for trump partly because of political grind lock. We went from grindlock to serious goverment dynfuction were even the basics are hard to do without dealing with chaos.

    Melania: Could you put the seat down with you're done?

    trump: no, and as matter a fact, you need to put the seat up when you're done.

  • Dockadams
    2017-10-15 02:43:09 PM
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    I watched a video clip of Trump this morning saying something to the effect of holding the media responsible for the stories they put out, if he really means that, I'm sure he's not talking about right wing biased media, the ones who attack democracy and progressive thought. He want's to regulate the media, okay, what about our constitution? Maybe he want's to send it to a shredder but keep their beloved second amendment.
  • that guy in AZ
    2019-09-27 01:27:36 PM
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    There WAS a time when America would protect journalists - but that is no longer true.

    The New York Times story below details the plight of a journalist how narrowly escaped from being imprisoned in Egypt.

    For decades, major American news outlets figured they could count on their government to do everything it could to help reporters abroad when they found themselves under threat.

    They no longer work under that assumption.

    President Trump’s near-daily attacks on the press, and his use of the loaded term “enemy of the people,” gives succor to autocrats like Egypt's ruler, who view the free press as an irritant to be quashed.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/reader-center/declan-walsh-cairo.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

    Al Jazeera reporter Mahmoud Hussein has been imprisoned since December 20, 2016 - a total of 1008 days (so far).

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/al-jazeera-mahmoud-hussein-spends-1000-days-egyptian-prison-19091813541701

    The Committee to Protect Journalists says Egypt is among the world’s worst jailers of journalists, alongside Turkey and China. However, the number of journalists imprisoned in Saudi Arabia has risen sharply since 2011. By no small coincidence, that's just before MBS came to power in the country.

    https://cpj.org/mideast/saudi-arabia/

    Last week, Mr. Trump joked that Mr. el-Sisi (Egypt's ruler) was his “favorite dictator.” On Monday the two leaders met again at the United Nations, and Mr. Trump issued fresh praise.

    His disdain for the free press is yet another reason why Trump is one of the most dangerous politicians in the world today.

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