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Hillary's new book 9/2017.

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Interviewed about her new book "What Happened".

    Clinton told Jane Pauley of CBS News’s “Sunday Morning” that Donald Trump won because he “was quite successful in referencing a nostalgia that would give hope, comfort, settle grievances, for millions of people who were upset about gains that were made by others,” Clinton said. When Pauley asked, “What you’re saying is millions of white people?” Clinton replied, “Millions of white people, yeah. Millions of white people.”

    If she is planning on 2020 she sounds more polarizing than unifying. Is she planning on running again in 2020? It sounds like she is identifying jealousy of others rather than people experiencing hard times. But in either case I don't think it wise to be dismissive. Can nobody talk to her or is she on the right track?

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Certainly Hillary speaks truthfully. The white voters in the Rust Belt states in particular succumbed to the Bernie and Trump propaganda. Both of them were largely singing the same tune...both anti-Hillary. The strategy worked. Making promises to people telling them what they want to hear is a winner. People cannot cope with reality. They don't want to hear the truth...even now as a various analysts have said the same thing. La la land trumps reality.

    I'll buy her book.

  • Center Left
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    Schmidt I bet you're going to buy 11 copies and give them as gifts. I liked her. I told so many that I was voting for her and why.

    She and the Democrats failed. You and Jared can curse about the archaic electoral college but the system was one she was fully aware of. She didn't reach out to the voters in about 25 states because there wasn't enough money to raise there.

    She's dead and her book was/is a farewell. Those who suggest next time (2020) make me laugh really hard. That's both funny and offensive.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt said: "Making promises to people telling them what they want to hear is a winner. People cannot cope with reality."

    So what is the solution?

  • Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote:

    Schmidt I bet you're going to buy 11 copies and give them as gifts. I liked her. I told so many that I was voting for her and why.

    She and the Democrats failed. You and Jared can curse about the archaic electoral college but the system was one she was fully aware of. She didn't reach out to the voters in about 25 states because there wasn't enough money to raise there.

    She's dead and her book was/is a farewell. Those who suggest next time (2020) make me laugh really hard. That's both funny and offensive.

    Interesting post. I didn't like her, I didn't like her message, I didn't like the way she delivered the message she gave, I only told my wife who I voted for, and told her that the only reason I would vote for her was because of Trump's messages of hatred and that I would never vote republican and why I never would or will.

    I won't buy her book, I know why she lost (most people do) and I don't need to read about her own reasons why. I have my own suspicions as to why she lost.

    In one of the debates, we saw Trump mosey behind Clinton like a stalker, if Clinton would have been Whoopi Goldberg, she would have told him "get your ass over there where you belong cracker! get the hell away from my backside!" Clinton felt intimidated by his move, she should have put him in his place right from the beginning. She was a weak candidate.

  • Liberal
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    No, nothing at all weak about Hillary. She is (was) probably one of the strongest and most qualified presidential candidates in modern history.

    Hillary biggest problem was listening to her "team" they stroked her ego (just as Trumpys team did to him) lied to her and believed their own BS. No sane person would ever believe a fraud like Trumpy could ever win the election, he didn't believe it himself. That's what happens when people get complacent and fall asleep at the wheel. Hillary and her team made so many poor choices it's a wonder she actually won the popular vote.

    My personal feeling about Hillary is she could have been one of the best presidents we have had in modern times, BUT she and her team misjudged just about everything they needed to insure her election. She would have been far better than Obama was because she is a better politician and understood how to deal with the old, while, male fools who are dedicated to supporting the 1% over everyone else. Obama needed 7 ½ years to learn that lesson and by then it was too late.

    I certainly didn't support many of Hillary's economic positions as I believe she is and always will be a DINO but socially she knows what should be done and would have been more successful than Obama.

    In the end, Hillary lost because she is a female and the ignorant voters of the USA are even less ready for a female president than a black one!

    Id like to think Hillary's loss was actually the country's gain as Trumpy will end up driving that wooden stake through the heard of the Republican Party and we can then elect a real Progressive and move forward rather than backward. I'd also like to believe in Santa Clause and the tooth fairy, not to mention that G-O-D character but that's pushing reality a bit too far.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Hillary did everything for Bill and in return he took advantage of her. When she choose to support him she lost het way. She started good with the Children's Defense Fund then went downhill after that supporting Bill's Presidency.
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    Founder of the Childrens Defense Fund's , Marian Wright Edelman, husband resigned from Clinton's administration in protest over Bill's welfare attack.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    pr -- yes, I agree with you. Hillary would have been one of the best presidents and ditto for Obama. However, Hillary and Obama both were victims of the ruthless Republican machine that smears any worthy Democratic candidate at the local, state and federal level. I have seen how they can take down a candidate by manipulating propaganda and feeding it to an obliging media that pretends to be fair and balanced but is really just "for profit". The e-mail "scandal" was blown way out of proportion and consumed what coverage of Hillary was available after Trump got to dish out his BS first.

    However, that is just one example. As close as the election was, one can cite almost any factor with "would haves, could haves, should haves" but in the end I blame those American people who take little interest in government except to cast blame when things don't work out the way they want. They are easy prey to the unscrupulous politicians who can manipulate minds. I am dumfounded that education and experience in government is seen as a liability for highly qualified politicians...the "elitist" charge. I would much rather have one of those "elitists" in charge rather than the buffoon. The voters voted for the buffoon to run the most important job in the world because they couldn't get themselves for whatever reason to vote for perhaps the most qualified person to ever run for the office. Ignorance and populism won the day.

    Here's an appropriate cartoon from the New Yorker that reflects my sentiments.

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  • Center Left
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    You nailed it pr. Well said. I too hate the Republicans path because it worked. Ignorant but effective. This conversation makes me wonder what's next.

    Her book was the topic. I guess the highly populated blue states will buy many copies. I wonder if any portion of the proceeds will go anywhere but her large bank account.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Hillary biggest problem was listening to her "team" they stroked her ego (just as Trumpys team did to him) lied to her and believed their own BS."

    The 1.2 billion dollars was probably the real culprit in Hillary's loss to Trump. Spending that money created a priority higher than the Presidency. Spending over 60 million dollars a day had to have a lot of non Hillary priorities . It certainly doesn't account for losing an election. I don't think people understand what $1,200,000,000 can do. There was probably a lot of self interested future power created by staffers spending $63,000,000 dollars a day.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    google.com/amp/ew.com/books/2017/04/24/.../

    Gives an idea of what the staff madeHillarys campaign about and it wasn't always Hillary.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Robby Mook, data analytics specialist: "developing “a reputation for caring as much about his own brand, and promoting his own people, as he did about getting Hillary elected,” write Allen and Parnes. "

    From "Shattered"

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Well, I will add a sixth item to Shattered's list, which reads like a Monday Morning Quarterback's analysis.

    Hillary should have destroyed the Bernie campaign early with Republican like talking points. But being a woman, perhaps, she felt some compassion for the "the Bern" who was trying to make something out of a lack luster career in Congress where Democrats paid little attention to the socialist independent. She misjudged his animosity towards her and the Democratic Party. It was a mistake.

    So she should have led off calling him "Bernard" as he was known to his fellow members at the Israel kibbutz (commune) where he learned the ways of socialism and free stuff. But a better word would be the "c" word...you know "communist". Would Trump have called him "Commie Sanders" like he called Clinton "Crooked Hillary"? She should have elaborated on his "communist past" again and again.

    Well maybe not. A better word might be "Dead Beat Dad" because after his first wife, Deborah Messing, divorced him for being unable to support her with a job and income, he still needed to satisfy his male urges. He had a love child, Levi, with another woman, Susan Mott, who he didn't marry and didn't have the means to support her or his child. This was 1969 and Sanders was a member of the hippie generation where guys "got it" but didn't take responsibility for not practicing safe sex.

    He later married Jane O'Meara, a true socialist with similar worldviews as Sanders. They went on their honeymoon to Russia. What does that say about their worldviews?

    There's more...that's just the beginning of a closet full of baggage that Clinton refused to use against Sanders. But what would Trump have done with all this Bernie baggage? Would it be "Commie Bernie" or "Dead Beat Dad Bernie"...repeated again and again and again?

    This is the cutthroat world of sleazy campaigns, and Hillary refused to be a part of it, at least as far as "Bernard" was concerned. Donald Trump would not have been so had cuffed.

    Daily Mail, July 2015: Bernie Sanders Exclusive

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Trump won and he has nothing to offer. Once the idea of spending creates good paying jobs and prosperity take hold it will be hard to stop the will of the working class. Then right wing democrats will have to chose between prosperity and austerity. Spending is good. Bernie Care is the foundation for prosperity. Where do you think 1.3 Trillion dollars a year of Bernie Care spending will go? It goes into the economy. It will work in the economy just like that money in the story you told about the inn keeper worked. It will pay back with benefits.