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Can people learn hate or love?

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." -- Barack Obama tweet quoting Nelson Mandela

    Can people learn hate and love like they learn reading or tennis??

    I don't think so. People are born programmed a certain way and nothing is going to change that. What does that mean for anti-social individuals like Nazi and supremacist hate grous. It means hugs don't work and it means the 1st amendment has shortcomings. The 1st amendment guarantees the right to say something but it doesn't guarantee that what is said has value or isn't dangerous. What can or should be done? If people can learn hate as Obama says isn't there an obligation to stop the teaching of it?

  • Liberal Democrat
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    "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." -- Barack Obama tweet quoting Nelson Mandela

    Obama's tweet above is a quote from Nelson Mandela's 1994 autobiography "Long Walk to Freedom".

    It is also has the record for the most likes ever.

    True leaders know how to respond appropriately. This is Barack Obama's gift to America.

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    This is from page 4 of another thread.

    democratichub.com/posts/14989/white-sup...

    Hopefully, this will answer your question, the post from another thread was made by someone whose screen name is Schmidt, and it is excellent.

    • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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      Dockadams, I read all of page 4 and did not see one reference about the first amendment and not even a hint about teaching hate. What are you trying to say?
    • Liberal Democrat
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      I'm saying the first is in place to protect your rights, and everyone's rights to freedom of speech, whether we like what is said or not. Even Trump's freedom of speech is protected, even though we might not like what he says. It would take an act of congress to repeal or amend the first amendment. Americans have practiced hate speech for over 200 years, and most don't like it, but we deal with it in different ways.

      You can teach your child not to use hate speech, but that doesn't mean when the child grows up that the child won't do what you've taught. There's only one obligation that a parent can practice, it's called a moral obligation, but sometimes it slips through the cracks, and sometimes people are easily influenced by another person or a group of people.

      "The basic principle that the Supreme Court has wrestled with under the Free Speech Clause is the principle of not punishing speech because of its message or its viewpoint. That in itself is a violation of the principles of the Constitution. But, for example, in certain areas like obscenity or child pornography or incitement to violence, the Court has made exceptions based on the dangers that those impose. Hate speech has not been considered to be part of any of those categories in and of itself. ... Under the First Amendment, you really have to have another law regulating conduct that's broken. So, you know, if you are beating somebody up, obviously you can be charged with a hate crime if you're doing that with the intention of targeting them because of their race. But if you're walking beside that person on the sidewalk with a sign or handing out flyers that reflect hatred toward that race, that is protected."

      wbur.org/hereandnow/2017/02/20/hate-spe...

    • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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      Dockadams, Copied from internet:

      "Threats of violence that are directed at a person or group of persons that has the intent of placing the target at risk of bodily harm or death are
      generally unprotected."

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_f...

      There are exceptions to free speech. I say and feel a lot of people would feel the Nazi and White supremacist groups have nothing to say that contributes to the greater welfare and benefit of society. The freedom of speech should be regulated to social contributions. Hate and other disruptive subjects that are contradictory to social well being should be illegal. Any Nazi or hate group meetings that outline benefits to society may be permitted but any activity no matter how well concealed that are intended initiate or teach violence should not only be denied but prosecuted.

    • Liberal Democrat
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      Well, we see how freedom of speech worked in Charlottesville, when the white nationalists marched down the street chanting "Jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil" not one was arrested, even though the group espoused a hate message.
    • Center Left
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      Hate has always existed in America. Donald Trump has just made it fashionable. - Le Bron James.

      espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20355498/lebron...

    • Liberal Democrat
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      I hate white supremacists.
    • Independent
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      Dockadams Wrote: I hate white supremacists.
      I hate brocoli, schrimps and Brussels sprouts.
    • Liberal Democrat
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      I love my wife, and like my dog and an occasional taco. My dog loves peanut butter and frosty paws.