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    The electoral college is probably the most important amendment for the United States. If candidates aren't smart enough to cultivate the votes of those small states then they aren't smart enough to be president. Furthermore if not for the electoral college those small states would be run down miserable pieces of real estate. They would get no federal money and that would be a shame. They would deteriorate according to right wing policy of if you can't pay your own way then you are worthless.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: The electoral college is probably the most important amendment for the United States. If candidates aren't smart enough to cultivate the votes of those small states then they aren't smart enough to be president. Furthermore if not for the electoral college those small states would be run down miserable pieces of real estate. They would get no federal money and that would be a shame. They would deteriorate according to right wing policy of if you can't pay your own way then you are worthless.

    Just a heads up - the Electoral College is not an Amendment. It was created under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution. Articles are vastly different than Amendments...


    Moving on. Do you believe that the will of the people in this country should continue to be thwarted because the people who live in a handful of states are more important than the people who live in the vast majority of other states?

    Every state would still have two Senators if we did away with the electoral college and every state would still have a minimum of one Representative.

    Your argument is the exact same argument slave states used in order to get the electoral college inserted into our Constitution. They knew that more people lived in the northern states and they insisted that a system be set up that gave slave holding states vastly more power than they otherwise would have had if the people were allowed to choose their President.

    A vote for President in Pennsylvania shouldn't count more than a vote for President in California. And a vote for President in Ohio shouldn't count more than a vote for President in Texas. The only thing the electoral college is good for is ensuring that five states decide who our President will be every four years while the remaining 45 are completely ignored.

    What a system!


    Now, can we please get back on topic?


    Update: Please respond to this on the "what is the purpose of the Electoral College ?" thread if you want to keep talking about this.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: You don't have to read my post more carefully, just read all of it.

    This is coming from someone who selectively picks and chooses sentences (and sometimes even sentence fragments) to respond to while at the same time ignoring anything that makes your arguments look silly.

    Here's a guess - you're going to ignore this response because you know it's true.

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    Schmidt Wrote: We are way off topic, so I hope we can move on.

    Me too.

    I'm not surprised one bit that this is already out of the news. The Republicans are sucking of the teat of the NRA so much that having one of their own members nearly killed in a mass shooting won't even get them to pass even the most token of gun regulations.

    Hell, I won't be surprised if they go the opposite direction and pass a bill that allows gun toting rednecks to open carry their AR-15 any and everywhere they damn well please. As we all know, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is an anti-government survivalist who has a hero complex with a gun.

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    A gunman could kill 100 republicans and they'd call it a terrorist attack, and not acknowledge that America has a gun problem, the NRA would tell the GOP what to say to the media.