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  • Independent
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    Any thoughts as to why Trump administration decided not to invoke the presidential power of "Executive Privilege"?

    If the administration were to have knowledge Comey was going to provide some kind smoking gun during his testimony, there is little doubt they would do everything they could to put a gag on him. This makes me wonder if the WH was given assurances that Comey would stay away from certain topics and\or testify in a neutral manner.... Such agreements come about through attorneys. The two sides informally chat through their attornies and come to an agreement. Trump could agree not use Executive Privilege because he has been given assurances from Comey attornies that X, Y, & Z will not be discussed by Comey.... I am not talking about any kind of illegal collusion and\or conspiracy, its simply agreements made all the time between two opposing sides during trials\etc.... "I'll give you this, if you give me that".

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Trump & Bannon are prepared to flood msm with faux news discrediting Comey's testimony. RW websites will report that Comey is a transsexual or a crossdresser and wears pantyhose and a bra under his tailored suits and prefers dating real men with small hands. In the men's room in a stall, Comey taps his feet and moves one closer to the stall next to him when it becomes occupied by another man. Comey has been seen in men's rooms in the capital at urinals peering over and down at another man taking a leak, Comey, according to the RW website (believe in me) is a real and genuine pervert.

    Besides, Trump & Bannon have the white house tapes of Comey propositioning Trump, except there might be 18 minutes missing.

  • Center Left
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    Comey replacement announced. Distraction as usual. If it's not broken, don't fix it. Every R in Washington dc trying to discredit Comey. Maybe Comey was paid to make the path smoother for the dictator. Is the truth still important ??? Can .... never mind.
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    TJ Wrote: Comey replacement announced. Distraction as usual. If it's not broken, don't fix it. Every R in Washington dc trying to discredit Comey. Maybe Comey was paid to make the path smoother for the dictator. Is the truth still important ??? Can .... never mind.
    The 3 year old will do everything to obstruct; therefore he announced today the "new" FBI director, just to irritate Comey even more. May be the new guy had to prove that he will only get the job if he "sticks" with Trump all the way until "death" us part. Wow.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Yow, zee must pledge loyalty to the Fuhrer! Seig Heil comrade Trumpf!

  • Independent
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    According to the news this morning, Comey has released a statement that he will testify that he did inform Trump that he was not under investigation, but Trump's campaign was under investigation. Trump pressured him to make public statements clearing him, but Comey deferred that decision to the DOJ.

    I need some help understanding how the Trump campaign can be under investigation, but Trump not be included in that investigation. It would like investigating Trump Inc for fraud, and say that Trump personally was excluded, especially when Trump is so closely connected with the daily decisions of the operation.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    wwjd Wrote: I need some help understanding how the Trump campaign can be under investigation, but Trump not be included in that investigation. It would like investigating Trump Inc for fraud, and say that Trump personally was excluded, especially when Trump is so closely connected with the daily decisions of the operation.

    There's a big difference between investigating a campaign and an individual. I'm surprised that Comey told Trump that, but I'm also not surprised that he didn't want to make it public because Comey didn't know whether or not the investigation would eventually implicate Trump himself.

    This may wind up being something like Nixon where the cover-up was worse than the crime itself. Donald personally inserting himself into an ongoing investigation and then pressuring multiple individuals to squash it may wind up being much more of a problem for him. If he really didn't do anything wrong and just let the investigation unfold then technically he could be vindicated, but now the story is more about how he was trying to end the investigation and not whether or not he personally colluded with Russia.

    It's also important to understand that just because Donald isn't personally under investigation doesn't mean he still can't be implicated. It's no surprise that his campaign aids and not himself were the ones who personally reached out to Russia.

    Remember that an individual has to commit a crime and if Donald didn't personally collude with Russia then it will be hard to convict him of any wrong doing in a court of law. None of that matters anyway because the only body that can hold Donald accountable while he is still President is the Congress.

    The Supreme Court ruled in Nixon v Fitzgerald that a President "is entitled to absolute immunity from damages liability predicated on his official acts" and the courts have consistently ruled that a President can not be charged with a crime while they are in office. They can technically be charged after they leave office either by impeachment or when they reach the end of their tenure, but as we saw with Richard Nixon - that is highly unlikely.

  • Strongly Liberal
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    The fat idiot wished him " luck. Like a job now would wish a stoolie , luck. Like he is going to need it. Luck , is a threat. He is saying , nice family he has there. Wish him luck.

    The fat idiot is a monster. He only understands thug life. So funny that he sends out the idiot sons who self destruct like butter under the lights.

    I am beginning to enjoy the unraveling but I am also worried about the 13 thousand people he in Ohio who are about to be screwed by anthem blue Cross. The fat idiot is defunding the ACA. He is a petty little dick surrounded by petty little dicks.

  • Center Left
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    Mr. Comey was doing an investigation and seemingly nobody cares. There could be at least hundreds of important questions but nobody wants to know what was found, who was involved with what, whom, or when. The only concern R's have is how best to discredit Mr. Comey. Where is the media backbone or leadership ?
  • Independent
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    My original question at the top was answered in Comey's written testimony that was released today. Comey did confirm that he told Trump he was not under investigation three times as Tump claimed in his termination letter to Comey (which was strange, but clearly a setup). I think that was a key part for not invoking executive privilege to block Comey from testifying. There maybe other aspects of the Comey said in his written testimony that favors Trump. I am confident that the WH had some advance insight into Comey's written testimony, and topics he will reframe from talking about when asked during the live hearing tomorrow. If they had no idea what Comey was going to say, they would have evoked Executive Privilege to block Comey from saying anything further, at least in public hearing before Congress.

  • Center Left
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    I will always question the (edited) version we will hear. Bought and paid for ? We will never know but I hope it's not mostly scripted. Could be so important but will likely stink of partisan politics instead of fact finding, truthful governing.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    wwjd Wrote: I need some help understanding how the Trump campaign can be under investigation, but Trump not be included in that investigation. It would like investigating Trump Inc for fraud, and say that Trump personally was excluded, especially when Trump is so closely connected with the daily decisions of the operation.

    There's a big difference between investigating a campaign and an individual. I'm surprised that Comey told Trump that, but I'm also not surprised that he didn't want to make it public because Comey didn't know whether or not the investigation would eventually implicate Trump himself.

    This may wind up being something like Nixon where the cover-up was worse than the crime itself. Donald personally inserting himself into an ongoing investigation and then pressuring multiple individuals to squash it may wind up being much more of a problem for him. If he really didn't do anything wrong and just let the investigation unfold then technically he could be vindicated, but now the story is more about how he was trying to end the investigation and not whether or not he personally colluded with Russia.

    It's also important to understand that just because Donald isn't personally under investigation doesn't mean he still can't be implicated. It's no surprise that his campaign aids and not himself were the ones who personally reached out to Russia.

    Remember that an individual has to commit a crime and if Donald didn't personally collude with Russia then it will be hard to convict him of any wrong doing in a court of law. None of that matters anyway because the only body that can hold Donald accountable while he is still President is the Congress.

    The Supreme Court ruled in Nixon v Fitzgerald that a President "is entitled to absolute immunity from damages liability predicated on his official acts" and the courts have consistently ruled that a President can not be charged with a crime while they are in office. They can technically be charged after they leave office either by impeachment or when they reach the end of their tenure, but as we saw with Richard Nixon - that is highly unlikely.

    Let's brace ourselves for Trump's kneejerk reaction if Comey lets a cat out of the bag, lets see if Trump tweets up a storm to try to discredit the former FBI director. The people who testified yesterday are obviously Trump loyalists, lets see if Comey has anything to lose by telling the truth. If questions become too delicate for him to answer, he might very well pull the confidentiality card out of the deck.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Did anyone else watch the hearing this morning? I watched the entire two hours worth and I admit (although I am a biased liberal) that he did everything but outright accuse Donald Trump of obstructing justice. Not just that, but when asked repeatedly if he thinks Trump did obstruct justice he would always respond that he wouldn't comment on the matter because of the ongoing investigation.

    Republicans will hear what they want to hear while Democrats will hear what they want to hear, but when you lose Fox News's Chris Wallace then that says something. (For those who don't know - Wallace basically called the testimony a disaster for the Trump Administration).

  • Center Left
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    I missed it all. Watching a little CNN right now for a summary. They said it was a very bad day for the president. I am anxious for better details. I will hopefully catch up with the evening news. Whatever is suggested that he did was done by a rich white man. Therefore entirely forgivable. Good God, they're talking about Hillary and her e mail ! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, WTF is wrong with our country and weak media. This is potential serious stuff / issues but the masses are too stupid to understand. Too ignorant to care.
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    Dockadams Wrote:Let's brace ourselves for Trump's kneejerk reaction if Comey lets a cat out of the bag, lets see if Trump tweets up a storm to try to discredit the former FBI director. The people who testified yesterday are obviously Trump loyalists, lets see if Comey has anything to lose by telling the truth. If questions become too delicate for him to answer, he might very well pull the confidentiality card out of the deck.

    Oddly enough he has not tweeted anything for the past 48 hours. Somebody got through to him, or took his phone away. I suspect he may feel vindicated that he got Comey to admit that Trump was not "personally" under investigation. Its so odd, Trump gets his highs from things that make little sense "Look look look, those in my inner circle are under investigation, but I'm not. Yea of for me! Yea for me"

    I don't think the NSA director or National Security Director are part of Trump inner circle of people, and that they do draw the line short of putting their careers in legal jeopardy. My take was that their attornies advised them not to talk about their conversations with Trump. This made them appear to be protecting Trump, but I think they were protecting themselves from being drawn further into the FBI's investigation as individuals who Trump got to agree to take his loyalty pledge, the same pledge that Comey refused. Comey was fired for refusing.