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Academic Survey About Split in Democratic Party

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    Problem is, democrats are too liberal or progressive for this new generation, the new generation views government money is theirs that they paid into and do not want to see it given away to less fortunate and poor, which is how they view democrats, giving their resources away (see the modern tea party movement). The generation that's turned suddenly conservative, has gone far right, way far right, and are out of touch with what this nation needs, more empathy and more caring for the population, their idea is I got mine, so fu*k the rest of you.

    The tea party movement recognized the democrat's weaknesses with the passage of the ACA - Obamacare, and that's where a great deal of the faux news came from, e.g. death panels, etc.. and then, 8 years of Obama met mostly with congressional obstructions to accomplish anything further of the democrat agenda. The new generation has gone hard right, and there's hardly any light at the end of the tunnel, even knowing the GOP is breaking down or mostly broken, the new generation doesn't even work well of get along with them either.

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    Took the survey and screwed up the first page. Sorry. I bleeped up your data. It was entirely unintentional. Did it this morning when I hadn't gotten a good night's sleep.
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    One can come up with all kinds of good reasons why America became an Oligarchy but for me the most important reason is unlimited campaign, dark or bribe money, take your pick.
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    progressiveconnie Wrote: One can come up with all kinds of good reasons why America became an Oligarchy but for me the most important reason is unlimited campaign, dark or bribe money, take your pick.
    Yes Connie this is an corrupt country; only "money" counts. If you have a lot you can bribe and "win" like Trump.
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    Peter Wehner, The Atlantic, April 3, 2019: The Democratic Party Is Radicalizing

    Wehner writes about how the Democratic Party has become radicalized by the Bernie Sanders socialist movement.

    "On every front, the Democratic Party is moving left, and the power of the left can be seen in the fact that even Democrats who oppose some of these policies are wary of attacking them. When it comes to challenging the progressive wing, Democratic candidates act as if they are walking on eggshells."

    "This embrace of radical progressivism and its colossal price tag is almost certainly going to hurt Democrats politically—most of their gains in 2018 were in suburban districts, among voters who tend to recoil at radicalism of any kind—and it could be politically disastrous. (Ocasio-Cortez enthusiastically embraced the label radical, saying, “It only has ever been radicals that have changed this country.”)"

    The Bernie Sanders brand of progressivism (i.e. socialism) is indeed wrecking the Democratic Party. We are becoming the party of idealistic intolerance towards any fellow Democrat who refuses to get on board with their socialist agenda. We saw it in 2016 when the Bernie folks built up such an intense hatred towards Hillary Clinton that many of them voted for Trump, making him President. And yes, these socialists can knock off moderate establishment Democrats in primary elections in blue districts as Ocasio-Cortez's win in New York shows, but they cannot win in red or pink districts. They came up ZERO in those districts in 2018. It was the moderate Democrats that were responsible for flipping 40 House seats. Rep Ocasio-Cortez can pontificate about the Blue Wave of 2018, but she and Sanders had nothing to do with the 40 House seats flipped and Democrats retaking control of the House.

    The biggest voting block in the nation is the centrist Independents. The extreme left socialists are just a tiny but vocal fraction. They continually talk about "revolution" but when the unemployment level is around 3.8 percent and most people are happy with their employer sponsored health care plans, there is not enough discontent to spark a revolution...only destroy the image of Democratic Party.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Peter Wehner, The Atlantic, April 3, 2019: The Democratic Party Is Radicalizing

    Wehner writes about how the Democratic Party has become radicalized by the Bernie Sanders socialist movement.

    "On every front, the Democratic Party is moving left, and the power of the left can be seen in the fact that even Democrats who oppose some of these policies are wary of attacking them. When it comes to challenging the progressive wing, Democratic candidates act as if they are walking on eggshells."

    "This embrace of radical progressivism and its colossal price tag is almost certainly going to hurt Democrats politically—most of their gains in 2018 were in suburban districts, among voters who tend to recoil at radicalism of any kind—and it could be politically disastrous. (Ocasio-Cortez enthusiastically embraced the label radical, saying, “It only has ever been radicals that have changed this country.”)"

    The Bernie Sanders brand of progressivism (i.e. socialism) is indeed wrecking the Democratic Party. We are becoming the party of idealistic intolerance towards any fellow Democrat who refuses to get on board with their socialist agenda. We saw it in 2016 when the Bernie folks built up such an intense hatred towards Hillary Clinton that many of them voted for Trump, making him President. And yes, these socialists can knock off moderate establishment Democrats in primary elections in blue districts as Ocasio-Cortez's win in New York shows, but they cannot win in red or pink districts. They came up ZERO in those districts in 2018. It was the moderate Democrats that were responsible for flipping 40 House seats. Rep Ocasio-Cortez can pontificate about the Blue Wave of 2018, but she and Sanders had nothing to do with the 40 House seats flipped and Democrats retaking control of the House.

    The biggest voting block in the nation is the centrist Independents. The extreme left socialists are just a tiny but vocal fraction. They continually talk about "revolution" but when the unemployment level is around 3.8 percent and most people are happy with their employer sponsored health care plans, there is not enough discontent to spark a revolution...only destroy the image of Democratic Party.

    Schmidt, I have seen the opposite in play as well. Establishment Democrats are just as intolerant of the so-called radicals. At the same time AOC and others who were elected, radical or not, have been quietly pointed in more proper directions by Pelosi and others. As for the author’s use of “socialism” that is nothing more than RW agitprop. I grow tired of that as they are NOT socialists in the mold of actual socialism.

    I find the comments regarding independents and low unemployment interesting. About half of the electorate either can’t be bothered to vote or is suppressed. One doesn’t know how you counter apathy which has been around for decades now. As for suppression that will take legislation and court cases. The employment issue is interesting because the numbers are skewed as they have always been no matter who held the presidency. The difference now is that economic insecurity is much higher as is the gig economy. Low unemployment numbers are a red herring.

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    I guess that is what you get on any "island" with only two parties. Sorry the word "Democratic" means it has things in it what benefits people by mutually consenting about what is needed to have an mentally "healthy" society which cares for everyone; indeed it also means that you care about others, which means you are "social". Having "healthcare" is an "social" service because it is paid from an "mutual created fund" held by the government and funded by the taxpayer.

    Also we like "roads" and "bridges" and other government services; all of this is "social"

    It is time that people in this country gets "educated" what certain words mean or where it stands for.

    What Bernie is promoting, is "normal" in plenty of countries, but not here; the GOP with its FOX news is an champion in mis-information as well "indoctrination" especially for the "people" here who lack any education, just as the leader of this country, who "surrounds" himself with even "dumber" people than himself, so he "stands out" above them and the "dumb" crowd. (Such were Hitler and Stalin's tactics)

    So the Democratic party has a lot of work to become unified , as well get an "platform" which makes sense for the "common" people who are already misled/programmed by Fox and Trump with their lies. For the election they should concentrate on all the dumb "center" States, which were lost by Hillary (because of the "electoral college)