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Meet the real Jared Kushner

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote:

    Kushner's company to a large loan finalized 1 month before the election. That bank has been under much scrutiny for shady dealings involved with Russia.

    google.com/amp/newsweek.com/deutsche-ku...

    If any of us, or anyone else for that matter, believe that any of Trump's family or associates will be brought to task for any wrongdoing, we'd better put on our rose colored glasses and buy some land in the Florida Everglades first, because I believe all this crap will be swept under the rug, look who is running things now, a right wing majority in SCOTUS and cabinet positions, dark days ahead good people.
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    Dockadams Wrote:
    TJ Wrote:

    Kushner's company to a large loan finalized 1 month before the election. That bank has been under much scrutiny for shady dealings involved with Russia.

    google.com/amp/newsweek.com/deutsche-ku...

    If any of us, or anyone else for that matter, believe that any of Trump's family or associates will be brought to task for any wrongdoing, we'd better put on our rose colored glasses and buy some land in the Florida Everglades first, because I believe all this crap will be swept under the rug, look who is running things now, a right wing majority in SCOTUS and cabinet positions, dark days ahead good people.
    Dock, I think you are right; the way things look is that the stubborn GOP hangs onto him like glue, as well no real changes in the approval rates. Yes it is the Titanic but may miss the iceberg for now.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    No outcry over Trump's lies. Does the MSM accept as that is just what Trump does ?
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    In another thread we discussed Jared Kushner's security clearance. I could not dig that thread out, so I'll bring the topic up again here. There has been much media speculation about Kushner's security clearance in light of the fact that he not only tried to set up a secretive back door to the Russian government through the Russian embassy, but he also is one of the participants in the "Hillary Clinton dirt" meeting with the Russians at Trump Tower. He conveniently omitted that fact from his disclosure form when he was being vetted for the job of senior aide to the president. It should automatically preclude him from getting any kind of security clearance under a normal presidency.

    However, under this presidency it has now been revealed that Kushner enjoys top level security status meaning that he has access to anything the president gets including the presidential daily briefings. Why does he have this high level of a security clearance? Because of the president's authority to grant him that status. And don't expect Trump to take away what he has giveth.

    See the Time article below.

    Time: Could Jared Kushner Actually Lose His Security Clearance? We Asked the Experts

    "Ultimately it is the President who makes the call whether someone should be granted clearance," said Laura Terrell, an attorney who worked in the White House Clearance Counsel during the George W. Bush Administration. "He is the chief officer and the one who makes that decision."

    "As the son-in-law to the President, no one is going to revoke that clearance unless it is with the acquiescence of the President, so functionally it is the President who can make the decision," said Timothy Flanigan, who served as Deputy Counsel in the George W. Bush administration. "Given the relationship between Kushner and Trump, it's unlikely the President would revoke Kushner's clearance."

    So there you go. This is what nepotism is all about.

    Who cares? It depends. Along Jared's point, is Kushner's security clearance really more important than who wins at "Dancing with the Stars"? Most likely not to most Americans.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Oh and I forgot. I wonder if Ivanka also has top security status.
  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote: Oh and I forgot. I wonder if Ivanka also has top security status.
    Schmidt, again as I said so many times; the rules and laws here are at fault; if you give an President these "powers" then he is able to appoint an Al Chapo or an "mob" boss and give him all the clearances there are. Welcome to "dumb" land.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    LOCK HIM UP!

    Kushner Used Personal Email To Conduct Government Business

    nytimes.com/2017/09/24/us/politics/kush...

    "Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and a White House senior adviser, has used his personal email account to conduct official government business, his lawyer acknowledged on Sunday."

  • Center Left
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    Yet another double standard. Horrible when done by my opponent. Nothing when done by me or us. Locking him up is probably too nice. However the idea of his frail ass in a prison seems oddly appropriate.

    Perhaps eventually.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    I just read on the internet news that the whole freakin' family used private emails to conduct govt. business, I am having wtf moments. definitely a double standard for the whole lot of them.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Uses private jets too?
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    In another thread we discussed Jared Kushner's security clearance. I could not dig that thread out, so I'll bring the topic up again here. There has been much media speculation about Kushner's security clearance in light of the fact that he not only tried to set up a secretive back door to the Russian government through the Russian embassy, but he also is one of the participants in the "Hillary Clinton dirt" meeting with the Russians at Trump Tower. He conveniently omitted that fact from his disclosure form when he was being vetted for the job of senior aide to the president. It should automatically preclude him from getting any kind of security clearance under a normal presidency.

    However, under this presidency it has now been revealed that Kushner enjoys top level security status meaning that he has access to anything the president gets including the presidential daily briefings. Why does he have this high level of a security clearance? Because of the president's authority to grant him that status. And don't expect Trump to take away what he has giveth.

    See the Time article below.

    Time: Could Jared Kushner Actually Lose His Security Clearance? We Asked the Experts

    "Ultimately it is the President who makes the call whether someone should be granted clearance," said Laura Terrell, an attorney who worked in the White House Clearance Counsel during the George W. Bush Administration. "He is the chief officer and the one who makes that decision."

    "As the son-in-law to the President, no one is going to revoke that clearance unless it is with the acquiescence of the President, so functionally it is the President who can make the decision," said Timothy Flanigan, who served as Deputy Counsel in the George W. Bush administration. "Given the relationship between Kushner and Trump, it's unlikely the President would revoke Kushner's clearance."

    So there you go. This is what nepotism is all about.

    Who cares? It depends. Along Jared's point, is Kushner's security clearance really more important than who wins at "Dancing with the Stars"? Most likely not to most Americans.

    I have referenced my post above because of the date...July 2017. Kushner's security clearance has been a topic of controversy ever since he was appointed to his job as senior advisor. And it mostly relates to his New York real estate transactions, the financing of the 666 5th Avenue building in New York being the most often cited in the media. It appears that Kushner could have been using his position in the Trump government to seek foreign financers for his 666 5th Avenue debt. He doesn't have much to offer in return except "influence peddling".

    However, Kushner was a shady character even before taking on the debt perhaps learning tricks from his father. From Wikipedia, his father, Charles Kushner, was fined and went to jail for "18 counts of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering. The witness-tampering charge arose from Kushner's act of retaliation against William Schulder, his sister Esther's husband, who was cooperating with federal investigators; Kushner hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranged to record an encounter between the two, and had the tape sent to his sister. Kushner was sentenced to two years in prison, and served 14 months at Federal Prison Camp in Montgomery, Alabama before being sent to a halfway house in New Jersey to complete his sentence. He was released from prison on August 25, 2006."

    Like father, like son. Besides the real estate financing there are all the other possible charges against Jared Kushner of trying to open a back door to contact Russians, lying to the FBI and perhaps even more that only Mueller knows about. The guy should never have set foot in the White House, but he has been there for over a year and it doesn't look like he is going out the door yet despite the loss of his security clearance. The guy is just incompetent and less than honest. Why cannot Trump let go of him?

    Jared Kushner will be indicted, but unlike his father who spent time in jail, Jared will have the benefit of a presidential pardon.

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    Schmidt Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote:

    In another thread we discussed Jared Kushner's security clearance. I could not dig that thread out, so I'll bring the topic up again here. There has been much media speculation about Kushner's security clearance in light of the fact that he not only tried to set up a secretive back door to the Russian government through the Russian embassy, but he also is one of the participants in the "Hillary Clinton dirt" meeting with the Russians at Trump Tower. He conveniently omitted that fact from his disclosure form when he was being vetted for the job of senior aide to the president. It should automatically preclude him from getting any kind of security clearance under a normal presidency.

    However, under this presidency it has now been revealed that Kushner enjoys top level security status meaning that he has access to anything the president gets including the presidential daily briefings. Why does he have this high level of a security clearance? Because of the president's authority to grant him that status. And don't expect Trump to take away what he has giveth.

    See the Time article below.

    Time: Could Jared Kushner Actually Lose His Security Clearance? We Asked the Experts

    "Ultimately it is the President who makes the call whether someone should be granted clearance," said Laura Terrell, an attorney who worked in the White House Clearance Counsel during the George W. Bush Administration. "He is the chief officer and the one who makes that decision."

    "As the son-in-law to the President, no one is going to revoke that clearance unless it is with the acquiescence of the President, so functionally it is the President who can make the decision," said Timothy Flanigan, who served as Deputy Counsel in the George W. Bush administration. "Given the relationship between Kushner and Trump, it's unlikely the President would revoke Kushner's clearance."

    So there you go. This is what nepotism is all about.

    Who cares? It depends. Along Jared's point, is Kushner's security clearance really more important than who wins at "Dancing with the Stars"? Most likely not to most Americans.

    I have referenced my post above because of the date...July 2017. Kushner's security clearance has been a topic of controversy ever since he was appointed to his job as senior advisor. And it mostly relates to his New York real estate transactions, the financing of the 666 5th Avenue building in New York being the most often cited in the media. It appears that Kushner could have been using his position in the Trump government to seek foreign financers for his 666 5th Avenue debt. He doesn't have much to offer in return except "influence peddling".

    However, Kushner was a shady character even before taking on the debt perhaps learning tricks from his father. From Wikipedia, his father, Charles Kushner, was fined and went to jail for "18 counts of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering. The witness-tampering charge arose from Kushner's act of retaliation against William Schulder, his sister Esther's husband, who was cooperating with federal investigators; Kushner hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranged to record an encounter between the two, and had the tape sent to his sister. Kushner was sentenced to two years in prison, and served 14 months at Federal Prison Camp in Montgomery, Alabama before being sent to a halfway house in New Jersey to complete his sentence. He was released from prison on August 25, 2006."

    Like father, like son. Besides the real estate financing there are all the other possible charges against Jared Kushner of trying to open a back door to contact Russians, lying to the FBI and perhaps even more that only Mueller knows about. The guy should never have set foot in the White House, but he has been there for over a year and it doesn't look like he is going out the door yet despite the loss of his security clearance. The guy is just incompetent and less than honest. Why cannot Trump let go of him?

    Jared Kushner will be indicted, but unlike his father who spent time in jail, Jared will have the benefit of a presidential pardon.

    Don't forget all the "crimes" he committed ; "money laundering", illegal "diamond" trade, shady housing deals, etc.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Kushner's dealings with his tenants sound EXACTLY like the treatment that Fred and Donald Trump gave their tenants.

    Donald Trump actually started his real estate career in 1973 by being sued by the Justice Department:

    https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-trump-plagued-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case

    True to form, Trump sued the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements, but the allegations were dismissed by the courts.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    The emolument clause is Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution.

    The Framers' intentions for this clause were twofold: to prevent a society of nobility from being established in the United States, and to protect the republican forms of government from being influenced by other governments.

    Although I could not find any specific penalty for violating the clause, it is entirely possible that the clause will be ultimately used to force Trump from office, and penalize his son-in-law.

    Here's how:

    1) when Trump was in Moscow for his beauty pageant in late 2013, he apparently told the Russians he was thinking about running for president. The Russian troll farm started up in the spring of 2014, and Mueller just indicted 13 of those Russians for their action. It's just a matter of time before Mueller can successfully prove collusion.

    2)) It was recently reported that 4 foreign countries have privately discussed how they can manipulate Kushner. The link below provides more information, but the key is that Mueller already has enough information to prosecute Kushner for "conspiracy to defraud the United States":

    http://https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/opinion/jared-kushner-conspiracy-fraud.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region

    Kushner received a loan of $184 million from Apollo Management and a loan of $325 million from Citigroup after their leaders had met numerous times with Kushner IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/business/jared-kushner-apollo-citigroup-loans.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

    According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, there ARE penalties for using public office for private enrichment. Since Kushner got HUGE loans for properties in Chicago and Brooklyn, he should already be in trouble in at least two states, but there may be more:

    http://www.ncsl.org/research/ethics/50-state-chart-criminal-penalties-for-public-corr.aspx

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Lisa Madigan is the attorney general for the state of Illinois.

    I just sent her a letter about the $184 million loan that Kushner got from Apollo Global management for his Chicago property. The penalty for violating CC720 IL CS could be a maximum of 7 years in prison, but only a $25,000 fine.

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