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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I grew up in the Steel Mining Ohio Valley close to Pitsburgh. Always Union Working Person Democrat. Union doesnt seem to carry any weight. That seems pretty far out from most of the talk here. Country with statstically high employment, proportionally low standard of living and vrtually non existent unionizing. What is a Democrat today? My synoptic characterization: don't dare think let alone demand single payer!

  • Center Left
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    What is a Democrat is an interesting question. I have no clear answer but a video clip shown to me yesterday had a statement that suggested that Democrats/Liberals "Lose". It was by the actor Jeff Daniels. While his charachter was avoiding a question about why "America is the greatest country" he addressed the truth without the mindless flag waving that is too common too often.

    youtu.be/ZPHSXUS0_1c

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote:

    What is a Democrat is an interesting question. I have no clear answer but a video clip shown to me yesterday had a statement that suggested that Democrats/Liberals "Lose". It was by the actor Jeff Daniels. While his charachter was avoiding a question about why "America is the greatest country" he addressed the truth without the mindless flag waving that is too common too often.

    youtu.be/ZPHSXUS0_1c

    I clicked on the link aand spent a very informative hour. But somewhat depressing. So many people are doing okay that entertaining any meaningful change is upsetting the apple cart and frowned upon. The funny part is we have a President who has it all and he isn't the least bit ashamed of pushing for more for himself. ACA should have started at the bottom. Take care of the have nots. That is so far out of the realm of possibility that Obama was able to penalize people that couldn't afford insurance. A far cry from making insurance affordable. The absolute poorest who need help the most get a pass that says they don't have to have insurance. Is that the same as they don't need insurance? Get an embarrassing outlier and just toss it out.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Me being a democrat and being poor most of my life, never really rich, but some years had a comfort zone, able to buy a home, own a couple of cars, taking care of essentials, I have depended on the US Government for unemployment comp, EBT-food stamps, deductions to my taxes for my small business operations. I think democrats recognize the need for safety nets, just in case a person or a family falls into a situation of needing a little help, and I think most democrats don't want the cutting back of social programs as proposed by the GOP or cons.

    I'd like to think that democrats or a democrat embraces people of different social, economic and ethnic backgrounds, especially while we have a hard line con running everything from the house, senate and presidency who are less likely to support the things we do. Democrats usually stick together pretty well, much better than repugs do. You almost can't find a repug who backs their president, while other repugs are afraid to back him but won't come out and say so, some repugs won't even say they don't or do back their president, they are gutless wonders.

    I will add that probably most democrats are pro union, while most, if not all repubs and their supporters are anti union, cases in point, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana.

    aflcio.org/2016/8/18/trump-and-pences-u...

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The most successful businesses thrive on planning, regulation and safety. All by products of unions.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    An old parable...

    There are four blind men who discover an elephant. Since the men have never encountered an elephant, they grope about, seeking to understand and describe this phenomenon. One grasps the trunk and concludes it is a snake. Another explores one of the elephant’s legs and describes it as a tree. A third finds the elephant’s tail and announces that it is a rope. And the fourth blind man, after discovering the elephant’s side, concludes that it is, after all, a wall.

    Each of us looks at the Democratic Party and sees something different. Some see the party that champions the workers, the middle class, the poor and sick...a party that exemplifies empathy and compassion. Some see a party that has lost its way and has abandoned its values. Some see a party in disarray trying to find middle ground between the Bernie supporters and the Hillary supporters. Some are looking for a leader that meets all their concepts of what a true leader should be...an illusive quest of ideological purity destined to end in failure.

    For me the Democratic Party embraces a diversity of thought, cultures, races and religions (or non-religions) and strives for tolerance of our differences. It is not easy. In fact it is next to impossible to be all things to all people. I know because I met so many of these people in canvassing neighborhoods for Obama, Clinton and local and state candidates.

    We strive to strike a balance with compromises, but one person's compromise is another person's sell-out. It encourages intolerance even when we strive for tolerance. It evokes strong emotions. Some liberals even called President Obama the "lesser of two evils". But names I heard against Hillary were even worse.

    For all it's warts and imperfections, the Democratic Party and its candidates for office, its party platform, and the thousands of volunteers who hit the streets to register voters and get out the vote are the only thing standing in the way of the Republicans and Donald Trump and their agenda to make the Republican Party a one party rule. They can only succeed if we remain divided ourselves, and if we remain intolerant of each other.

    Compromise is not a four letter word.

  • Center Left
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    Well said Schmidt. Your typical eloquence.
  • Independent
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    Yes I agree as well. However I'm an "independent"; the main reason being that this country is going to hell right now because of only an two party system; sure I believe the Dem's are the better "half" but it is obvious that you get polarization which creates either an far left or an far right. On top of that the 1800's British based government system does not work in 2017. This is an country of "lawyers" and "churches", which does not help to get an smooth running government. Let's be clear that the mess we are in is because of weird antique laws, which no one wants to change. Look at the the "budget" just presented; something like that should not be possible if you would have an balanced government with multiple parties. Also "powers" of an President here are asking for dictatorship, regardless of "checks" and "balances" if these are in the hands of the ruling party which is the case now. Thus being an "democrat" in an "parlimentary" system may work out totally different than here. Examples: the elections in Europe, which are just by "vote" only as well no voter suppression like here, let alone the hoards of "outside" money used here to elect an person. Thus being an Democrat here, it feels like you have no voice, because "money" rules here, not the "people"
  • Center Left
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    Older video but still so true. George Carlin on the wealthy and how they own this country.

    youtu.be/rsL6mKxtOlQ

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Compromise is not a four letter word." But desert is.

    The very poor are excluded from health insurance. Where is the compromise? The very poor were deserted. If an individual absolutely cannot afford the affordable care act a certificate is issued that waives the requirement to have insurance. The word is not compromise, the word is desert. The Democratic party has not compromised over complicated issues, it has deserted over complicated issues.

    It should be but isn't calling for higher taxes and a rigorous accelerated tax code. Silence.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    "Compromise is not a four letter word." But desert is.

    The very poor are excluded from health insurance. Where is the compromise? The very poor were deserted. If an individual absolutely cannot afford the affordable care act a certificate is issued that waives the requirement to have insurance. The word is not compromise, the word is desert. The Democratic party has not compromised over complicated issues, it has deserted over complicated issues.

    One thing that frustrates me about you is that you constantly allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good.

    The poor are excluded from health insurance *in certain states that refused to expand Medicaid.* The reason that happened is because Republican states sued over the conditions imposed on them under Obamacare and successfully convinced the Supreme Court that Medicaid expansion was unconstitutional and therefore optional. Red states then decided to screw over their own citizens while blue states expanded their coverage. Are Democrats to blame for that or are Republicans and the Supreme Court?

    The same goes with the general health care law. President Obama wanted to have the public option, but Senator Joe Lieberman, then an Independent Senator who caucused with the Democrats (although he campaigned heavily for McCain), said no. With that, he effectively killed the public option all by himself. Do you blame the 59 Democrats who would have voted for the public option or the 1 Democrat who killed it?

    So what did the Democrats do in order to pass something? They compromised.

    They compromised so millions of people with preexisting conditions can no longer be denied coverage and they compromised so women could no longer be charged twice as much as men for the same services. They compromised so no cancer patient would ever reach their lifetime limit and effectively be given a death sentence and they compromised so a young person who couldn't find a job due to the worst recession we've had in nearly a century was able to stay on their parents plan until they were 26.

    In short - they didn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

    That, at least in my opinion, is the best quality someone who calls themselves a Democrat can have.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Further on Jared's comments:

    New York Times: Affordable Care Act: A Tale of Two States

    In Oklahoma, which has raged against the law, insurance premiums are among the nation’s highest. New Mexico, which oversees its marketplace, has some of the lowest.

    Red states like Oklahoma have sabotaged efforts to make the Affordable Care Act work in their states. Meanwhile in blue states like New Mexico, the Affordable Care Act has been a success. Republicans cite red states like Oklahoma and Iowa as being representative of why the Affordable Care Act is "in a death spiral". What annoys me in watching MSNBC is that when Republicans make that claim they are seldom challenged by the host. The lie is allowed to stand unchallenged.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    "Compromise is not a four letter word." But desert is.

    The very poor are excluded from health insurance. Where is the compromise? The very poor were deserted. If an individual absolutely cannot afford the affordable care act a certificate is issued that waives the requirement to have insurance. The word is not compromise, the word is desert. The Democratic party has not compromised over complicated issues, it has deserted over complicated issues.

    One thing that frustrates me about you is that you constantly allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good.

    The poor are excluded from health insurance *in certain states that refused to expand Medicaid.* The reason that happened is because Republican states sued over the conditions imposed on them under Obamacare and successfully convinced the Supreme Court that Medicaid expansion was unconstitutional and therefore optional. Red states then decided to screw over their own citizens while blue states expanded their coverage. Are Democrats to blame for that or are Republicans and the Supreme Court?

    The same goes with the general health care law. President Obama wanted to have the public option, but Senator Joe Lieberman, then an Independent Senator who caucused with the Democrats (although he campaigned heavily for McCain), said no. With that, he effectively killed the public option all by himself. Do you blame the 59 Democrats who would have voted for the public option or the 1 Democrat who killed it?

    So what did the Democrats do in order to pass something? They compromised.

    They compromised so millions of people with preexisting conditions can no longer be denied coverage and they compromised so women could no longer be charged twice as much as men for the same services. They compromised so no cancer patient would ever reach their lifetime limit and effectively be given a death sentence and they compromised so a young person who couldn't find a job due to the worst recession we've had in nearly a century was able to stay on their parents plan until they were 26.

    In short - they didn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

    That, at least in my opinion, is the best quality someone who calls themselves a Democrat can have.

    jaredsxtn, There are no excuses for the healthcare system to be in the condition it is in. You arbitrarily and subjectively set conditions as normal ignoring or excusing actions as being beyond control like the States failure to expand and then accept that as uncontrollable circumstances. That is where the Democratic Party should have been hitting hard. Once again you are blaming the helpless for their own problems denying responsibility. The system is loaded with injustices but you are ascribing the injustuces to material fact when in fact the Democratic Party should have been attacking and rectifying. While a certain group was claiming zero progress for 30 years of working class living another group headed by Hillary and Obama were claiming the opposite. Hillary was the perfect elitist identifying the depplorables as her problem denying the depplorables are her failure. You stand far to the right defending upper classes instead of helping lower classes. Hillary created her own problems then denied responsibility for her failure, the deplorables. The "perfect" need to assume responsibility for the country instead of smugly resenting the problem. There is no excuse for poverty. Put people to work. Give them jobs. They will spend money and prosperity will emerge. Professing that a perfectionist attitude deserves respect and protection is why Trump is president. The Democratic party allowed development of despair in the working class and now to deny responsibility reaches a pinnacle of irresponsibility. Offering compromise is ludicrous. The party has failed the people. The DNC should either own the Problem or get out. Right now the DNC has no claim to Democrat.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    What a Democrat and Democratic Party should be. Creator of opportunity. The DNC has relegated into wealth management taking advantage of the affluent population deserting the needy population. The resurrection of the party and answer to the overall problem is to create opportunity and oppose underemployment. The party should streamline toward full life sustaining employment. Support a tax code that is in the best national interest. Support policies that subscribe to institutional concepts vs event based outcomes. Cultivate co-operation between the States and oppose isolationists attitudes. Create opportunity in a progressive manner. Support an active economy in goods and services. The Democratic Party has degraded into a managing as opposed to progressive creating.

  • Center Left
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    That Independent from Vermont has a few suggestions for the party. Democrats will probably stay in hibernation until fund raising for '18. They should be working 14 hours each day.

    dieharddemocrat.com/2017/06/23/sanders-...