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    Jared, you indicated as I said many times,that the "rules" in this government, either don't work or are antiquated or not there. I would think, if someone goes for an"power grab" then that should be reason for removal. Or if you don't do the job you are hired for, then you should be fired. Thus exactly as you say, the present rules makes this government inefficient and corrupt. Like not "vetting" an President and not be able to kick him out if he does not perform. If I hear the lawyers in how many twists and turns you have to make to get him expelled, that means our laws are worthless or non-existent. It is time some straight forward laws come into place, which are clear and concise. Especially voting laws, qualifications to become President and remain President. Now it is an Banana Republic .
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    "That's what I was trying to get across to all those Jill Stein and "Bernie or Bust" so called Democrats who thought this past election didn't matter."

    There were 8 years of Obama that didn't mean anything except to you and Schmidt. Another term of incrementalism and be happy with what you got would just make it worse. Now dealing with the worst case scenario, a guy who could care less about people and only cares about immediate self gratification. Dutch recognizes the problem here but nobody wants to be told. There is no party for people. Spin this any way you want but Hillary said "a hundred million is not really that well off".

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    "That's what I was trying to get across to all those Jill Stein and "Bernie or Bust" so called Democrats who thought this past election didn't matter."

    There were 8 years of Obama that didn't mean anything except to you and Schmidt. Another term of incrementalism and be happy with what you got would just make it worse. Now dealing with the worst case scenario, a guy who could care less about people and only cares about immediate self gratification. Dutch recognizes the problem here but nobody wants to be told. There is no party for people. Spin this any way you want but Hillary said "a hundred million is not really that well off".

    Chet, quite simple. Like in Europe because of an multi party system, then the "center" (independents) is covered . Here with the polarization, the "center" is not represented at all. That is the reason that you get an far right or an far left situation.

    Thus there never will be an balance in this country and 8 or 4 years of one party and then 8 or 4 years of the other party. Efficiency is also hampered by totally changing at each term the people who learned the job and replacing them by people who have no clue about the job; this includes Presidents and their advisers. This makes this country awfully slow in adapting to the times in governing. Or creates chaos as it is now. Yes all of this is an self inflicted wound because of an antique system which no one wants to adapt to the times; lots of countries lost their status in the world this way. America has become the new Rome.

    Related to the "poor" if you have an "balance in redistribution of "wealth" like they do in Europe; then you have "money" for the right "social" structure to care for people of the middle and lower classes. Just saw on TV on how the super wealthy billionaires ordered huge yachts in the Netherlands which can carry submarines, multi helicopters, other toys etc. for millions of dollars. Something is wrong in this world. Cause: "greed", especially here.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: There were 8 years of Obama that didn't mean anything except to you and Schmidt.

    Anything? We were on the verge of a complete and total economic collapse when Bush left and now we have Dodd-Frank, the CFPB, and our unemployment rate is half of what is was when Obama took over.

    Anything? Tell that to my gay friends who can now marry the person they love. Tell that to my gay friends who can visit their partner in the hospital. Tell that to my gay friends who are no longer legally chastised in this country.

    Anything? Tell that to my wife who had to stay in a job she absolutely hated because she wouldn't have been able to get health insurance on the open market since she had a preexisting condition. After Obamacare became law she was able to quit her job and we traveled the world for six months before moving back to the states where she was able to find a job she absolutely loves now.

    Anything? Tell that to my friends who served five or six tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan because W promised them that they would get free college if they signed up for the National Guard and serve "one weekend a month, two weeks a year." Yea, he kind of left out the part where he would be shipping them off to far off lands because he was too chickenshit to institute the draft.

    Anything? Tell that to my friend who works at GM and only has a job because Obama bailed out the American automotive industry.

    I can go on and on, but it would take up the rest of my day to respond to your garbage statement.

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    Dutch Wrote: Chet, quite simple. Like in Europe because of an multi party system, then the "center" (independents) is covered . Here with the polarization, the "center" is not represented at all. That is the reason that you get an far right or an far left situation.

    Yea, many EU governments aren't as peachy as you're claiming.

    Hungary basically has a dictator in the guise of a Prime Minister, Poland is quickly turning into the same, and far right wing parties are gaining more and more Parliamentary seats in every single European country, so I wouldn't speak too glowingly about Europe right now because the whole damn continent is on the verge of a massive right wing takeover. We'll see how the whole parliamentary system works when that happens.

    I'm sure you'd just blame America if any of that happens though...

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    Now can we get back on topic please? This thread is supposed to be about Mitch McConnell, not European politics or how much Chet hates Obama and the Democratic Party.
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    Turtle face want's Trump's administration and Trump to stop dropping bombs on themselves. Poor turtleface, LMAO!

    Will McConnell be re-elected? or censured for obstruction.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: There were 8 years of Obama that didn't mean anything except to you and Schmidt.

    Anything? We were on the verge of a complete and total economic collapse when Bush left and now we have Dodd-Frank, the CFPB, and our unemployment rate is half of what is was when Obama took over.

    Anything? Tell that to my gay friends who can now marry the person they love. Tell that to my gay friends who can visit their partner in the hospital. Tell that to my gay friends who are no longer legally chastised in this country.

    Anything? Tell that to my wife who had to stay in a job she absolutely hated because she wouldn't have been able to get health insurance on the open market since she had a preexisting condition. After Obamacare became law she was able to quit her job and we traveled the world for six months before moving back to the states where she was able to find a job she absolutely loves now.

    Anything? Tell that to my friends who served five or six tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan because W promised them that they would get free college if they signed up for the National Guard and serve "one weekend a month, two weeks a year." Yea, he kind of left out the part where he would be shipping them off to far off lands because he was too chickenshit to institute the draft.

    Anything? Tell that to my friend who works at GM and only has a job because Obama bailed out the American automotive industry.

    I can go on and on, but it would take up the rest of my day to respond to your garbage statement.

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    Chet, why are you supporting Trump?

    My wife has Obamacare, it's better than her bringing no money to our checking account by paying a $1200.00 per month insurance premium. If Trumpcare is taken on, she'll have no coverage at all, like most low and middle wage earners in America, is that what you want?

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    Dutch Wrote: Chet, quite simple. Like in Europe because of an multi party system, then the "center" (independents) is covered . Here with the polarization, the "center" is not represented at all. That is the reason that you get an far right or an far left situation.

    Yea, many EU governments aren't as peachy as you're claiming.

    Hungary basically has a dictator in the guise of a Prime Minister, Poland is quickly turning into the same, and far right wing parties are gaining more and more Parliamentary seats in every single European country, so I wouldn't speak too glowingly about Europe right now because the whole damn continent is on the verge of a massive right wing takeover. We'll see how the whole parliamentary system works when that happens.

    I'm sure you'd just blame America if any of that happens though...

    Jared, Jared you should know better, Poland is in my view not European, neither Turkey or some other ex east block countries. I consider the more Democratic block such as the Scandinavian block, France, Belgium, Dutch, German block as the real Europe. The southern part like Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, I consider as the "in debt" countries who need help all the time. You don't compare Kentucky here either with California. No France, nor the Netherlands, nor Germany as well the Scandinavian countries are not on the verge of an massive right wing takeover; the elections proved this. Thus I hope you accept that this country is in more disarray then Europe. Ask McConnell or Trump they will tell you everything is fantastic. Impeach both
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    Dutch Wrote: Jared, Jared you should know better, Poland is in my view not European, neither Turkey or some other ex east block countries. I consider the more Democratic block such as the Scandinavian block, France, Belgium, Dutch, German block as the real Europe. The southern part like Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, I consider as the "in debt" countries who need help all the time.

    That's akin to me saying "I don't consider Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, or Texas to be part of the United States."

    Poland and Hungary are part of the European Union. They are also on the European continent. Is that not a fact?

    Dutch Wrote: You don't compare Kentucky here either with California.

    I compare the poorer states with California and New York all the time, but I have never suggested those states aren't part of the United States.

    Dutch Wrote: No France, nor the Netherlands, nor Germany as well the Scandinavian countries are not on the verge of an massive right wing takeover; the elections proved this.

    France came dangerously close a week ago, Geert Wilders came in second place in the Netherlands most recent election, Germany might be safe (for now), and far right anti-immigration parties are gaining more and more seats in all five Scandinavian countries.

    Dutch Wrote: Thus I hope you accept that this country is in more disarray then Europe.

    I am a student of American history and we have been through a multitude of Constitutional crises throughout our short history, but we've somehow figured out a way to get through them.

    Our country isn't in disarray and Europe isn't in disarray either. All I am trying to point out is that there are crazy assholes in every country and democracy is messy.

    One reason I often get frustrated with you is that you seem to constantly bash everything that happens in this country, but just write off anything negative that happens in other countries as an anomaly that can easily be corrected.

    The world has changed and it's going to continue to change. Technology is going to take away more and more jobs. That's not just going to be an American or European problem, but a world problem. Globalization is going to continue to put a strain on the current world order because people of all races and religions are going to be forced to figure out a way to live together.

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    To add insult to injury, Mitch McConnell just ordered a mass arrest of the federal workers who had gathered outside his office to demand that the government be reopened. The only things missing in the picture taken outside the Hart Senate building are torches and pitchforks.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/23/1828923/-Mass-arrest-of-federal-employees-outside-Mitch-McConnell-s-office-Where-is-Mitch-We-want-to-work?detail=emaildkre

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    that guy in AZ Wrote:

    To add insult to injury, Mitch McConnell just ordered a mass arrest of the federal workers who had gathered outside his office to demand that the government be reopened. The only things missing in the picture taken outside the Hart Senate building are torches and pitchforks.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/23/1828923/-Mass-arrest-of-federal-employees-outside-Mitch-McConnell-s-office-Where-is-Mitch-We-want-to-work?detail=emaildkre

    And yet people keep reelecting this trojan horse. Why?

    "In June 2018, McConnell became the longest-serving Republican U.S. Senate leader in the history of the United States. McConnell's approval rating, as reflected by both national and statewide poll results, is consistently among the lowest of all senators."

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_McConnell

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: Jared, Jared you should know better, Poland is in my view not European, neither Turkey or some other ex east block countries. I consider the more Democratic block such as the Scandinavian block, France, Belgium, Dutch, German block as the real Europe. The southern part like Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, I consider as the "in debt" countries who need help all the time.

    That's akin to me saying "I don't consider Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, or Texas to be part of the United States."

    Poland and Hungary are part of the European Union. They are also on the European continent. Is that not a fact?

    Dutch Wrote: You don't compare Kentucky here either with California.

    I compare the poorer states with California and New York all the time, but I have never suggested those states aren't part of the United States.

    Dutch Wrote: No France, nor the Netherlands, nor Germany as well the Scandinavian countries are not on the verge of an massive right wing takeover; the elections proved this.

    France came dangerously close a week ago, Geert Wilders came in second place in the Netherlands most recent election, Germany might be safe (for now), and far right anti-immigration parties are gaining more and more seats in all five Scandinavian countries.

    Dutch Wrote: Thus I hope you accept that this country is in more disarray then Europe.

    I am a student of American history and we have been through a multitude of Constitutional crises throughout our short history, but we've somehow figured out a way to get through them.

    Our country isn't in disarray and Europe isn't in disarray either. All I am trying to point out is that there are crazy assholes in every country and democracy is messy.

    One reason I often get frustrated with you is that you seem to constantly bash everything that happens in this country, but just write off anything negative that happens in other countries as an anomaly that can easily be corrected.

    The world has changed and it's going to continue to change. Technology is going to take away more and more jobs. That's not just going to be an American or European problem, but a world problem. Globalization is going to continue to put a strain on the current world order because people of all races and religions are going to be forced to figure out a way to live together.

    Sorry, you are naive; there is more unity in Europe than in the US with 52 States. You may be an "student" of American history, living in the far west and have no clue what is happening in Kentucky etc., thus likely does not know how the rest of the world lives except may be Ireland (which is an horrible example anyway), Europe has a much longer history than this country (3000 years versus the US 300 years). Since this country still thinks it is number one in the world, how come that they elect a con-man mob boss to be their leader? So add this to your study of American history. Being "part of" does not mean that they are "unified" the opposite is mostly the case.

    Sorry, you've got an weird view of the world; "agreements" or "blocks" does not mean they think alike, let alone have the same language or customs or living standards or even laws or own forms of governments. Certainly the European Union can't be compared to the US. (Neither does it have an Puerto Rico, which is treated like it does not belong) Every country in Europe has its own laws and language. Here the States can have some of their own laws, but are very limited, because Federal laws prevail; that is not the case in Europe at all, they are still very much individual countries with their own government Kings, Prime Ministers, etc. and own elections. Thus not having an "King" as Trump who rules the EU; I barely know who's the leader of the EU; he has hardly any "powers". Sorry again , I'll contact you once this country is completely down the drain because, it will with its British style of government and huge corruption built into the system. Neither does the EU have an "electoral college" system nor an "two" party system, nor "billionaires/lobbyists" who can "buy" elections (only votes count), or want border walls. (the Berin "wall" was the last one; but had an different reason) They learned their lessons over 3000 years, not on this "island" of only 300 years, forgetting the Indians. So buy some European study books ( not the British once's) for a change.

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    Mitch McConnell said today that he plans to be the "grim reaper" for progressive policies if the Republicans hold on to the Senate in 2020, which is EXACTLY what he has been doing since January 2009.

    McConnell is up for re-election in November of 2020. In the 2014 election, he still managed to get 56% of the vote, so it still may be a challenge to get the old fart out of office. McConnell is 77 years old, and had triple bypass heart surgery in 2003.

    McConnell's approval rating, as reflected by both national and statewide poll results, is consistently among the lowest of all U.S. senators. In 2010, the OpenSecrets website ranked McConnell one of the wealthiest members of the U.S. Senate, based on net household worth. His personal wealth was increased after receiving a 2008 personal gift to him and his wife, given by his father-in-law James S. C. Chao after the death of McConnell's mother-in-law, that ranged between $5 and $25 million.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-pledges-to-be-grim-reaper-for-progressive-policies/ar-BBWbtTf?ocid=spartandhp

    Since he actually looks like a turtle, pranksters have sent him containers of turtle food.

    Perhaps it's time to send him a dead fish wrapped in a newspaper.