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the death of Obmare AND the Republican Party?

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  • Center Left
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    Truth is that only important part was the massive tax cuts. They stapled it to a healthcare bill because it suggested President Obama's ACA was failing and that Trump would fix it all. Healthcare wrapped in a tax cut.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Cons secretly crafting a healthcare bill behind closed doors, it's sooooo secret, not even a majority of cons know what's in it, way to go turtleface!
  • Independent
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    The funny thing is as was on the news, that no one talked to the pharma, doctors, hospitals, insurers, etc. to get cost under control; they seem to be protected just like the NRA. Here they refuse to do what they did in other countries; to negotiate cost with these institutions. I know that this is difficult here because of the stupid lobby system here; which promotes corruption and price ballooning to fill their pockets . Such exercise will take years and of course the GOP wants to push it through next week. Thus we will end up with the "bill". What an unbelievable country. Thus again Jared, where is the law to forbid "lobbying" Guess who pays in the end for all the "pill" etc. adds on TV???? We get our "pills" from Europe; one tenth of the price from here as well better quality.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch, The first amendment wipes out the entire concept of Democracy and popular rule. Elections are held to perpetuate a Democracy but lobbyist create or modify the laws. Paid lobbyists, paid by special interest self interested groups.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Oh, doctors, hospitals, pharma will all make you healthy.....sometimes, but

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Dutch, The first amendment wipes out the entire concept of Democracy and popular rule. Elections are held to perpetuate a Democracy but lobbyist create or modify the laws. Paid lobbyists, paid by special interest self interested groups.
    I wonder how many lawmakers are buddy+buddy with healthcare lobbyists?
  • Independent
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    Dockadams Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Dutch, The first amendment wipes out the entire concept of Democracy and popular rule. Elections are held to perpetuate a Democracy but lobbyist create or modify the laws. Paid lobbyists, paid by special interest self interested groups.
    I wonder how many lawmakers are buddy+buddy with healthcare lobbyists?
    But yeah we've got an great Constitution, right?? The healthcare industry never read it!!! "money" is more powerful than any Constitution.
  • Center Left
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    Dockadams Wrote: Cons secretly crafting a healthcare bill behind closed doors, it's sooooo secret, not even a majority of cons know what's in it, way to go turtleface!
    You can't complain about what you can't see or don't know about. They'll unveil and then seek a quick vote. They treat all as idiots when in fact it's only their voters. It will be very very bad and the evil fake media will probably mention it. All Americans should be harsh critics.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    The constitution of the united states, first amendment:

    $$$$$$$ supersedes free speech.

    Liberals need to organize a two million (or more) person march on DC. We need to send a message to all lawmakers, including democrats who lay down and get rolled over by the conservative party. Million Man marches accomplished little, let's think big.

  • Center Left
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    I very much agree because in many cases healthcare is being taken. In other cases it's still going to be available at greater costs. People want reasonable options and they often won't have any. Yes a protest is a great way to show that many are not happy. If they want attention they should carry signs or wear shirts or hats saying I am not happy and I do vote. Matter.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dockadams Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Dutch, The first amendment wipes out the entire concept of Democracy and popular rule. Elections are held to perpetuate a Democracy but lobbyist create or modify the laws. Paid lobbyists, paid by special interest self interested groups.
    I wonder how many lawmakers are buddy+buddy with healthcare lobbyists?
    That is the job of lobbyist, to be buddy buddy with law makers. One of the guys at the ball park shooting was a lobbyist.
  • Independent
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    I'm glad some of you get the picture; there will never be an decent healthcare system here as long as the "lobbying" and corruption is being allowed. Doctors , hospitals, drug producers, all make huge profits and the government has no control over them. In Europe "pricing' etc. is first negotiated with those entities, before drafting an healthcare bill. Here they totally forget to do so. No wonder that pills in Europe are an tenth of the price here, let alone doctors cost or hospital cost.

    But yeah Jared remains proud of this Capitalistic country where only "money" counts but not "brains" let alone an socialistic system as Bernie did promote without lobbyists and an NRA.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Protesters at Turtle face's office, this is what I'm talking about, but liberals, democrats, and progressives en masse.

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