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John Kasicb in 2020 ?

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  • Center Left
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    Well he's not my first choice but as Republicans go.... He is far better than what we have. This story is interesting. He will need a job and unlike Cruz, he didn't get on the Trump train. He has written a book. Hmmm. I always liked him.

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote:

    Well he's not my first choice but as Republicans go.... He is far better than what we have. This story is interesting. He will need a job and unlike Cruz, he didn't get on the Trump train. He has written a book. Hmmm. I always liked him.

    addictinginfo.com/2017/04/30/trump-coul...

    He is a likable guy sincere guy. But too extreme on some issues for president
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Kasich reminds me of Ronald Reagan and I can't stand Ronald Reagan.

    He is just as extreme as the most extreme Republicans, but he does so with a smile on his face and by using a gentle tone of voice. That's what Reagan was a master at. He enacted some of the most brutal and mean spirited policies this country has ever seen, but he did so by talking to the nation like they were a bunch of elementary school children who just wanted to be hugged.

    The same goes for Kasich. He's anti-abortion and wants to defund Planned Parenthood; a big proponent of for profit prisons and has moved to privatize many state prisons in Ohio; is against not just legal marijuana, but medical marijuana, and is firmly to the right of pretty much every single priority in the Democratic Party.

  • Center Left
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    During the debates (early on) he was asked a question that addressed what his response would be if he learned one of his daughters was gay. His reply was compassionate and loving. He spoke of love and acceptance. The range of R responses would typically range from ignorance and intolerance to where Kasich was.

    He worked across the isle to establish a balanced budget at the end of Clinton's second term. I believe there's less than 3% chance he would run. I am remaining hopeful that somehow the current administration falls apart and is in discord as we approach 2020.

    I am not trying to convince anyone but I think some preconceived or preexisting opinions are not the same as mine after listening to the long answers I have heard to many questions. I hope he contributes again. I encourage all to remain open minded. Eventual additional debates always help people to hear ideas and to listen.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote: I am not trying to convince anyone but I think some preconceived or preexisting opinions are not the same as mine after listening to the long answers I have heard to many questions. I hope he contributes again. I encourage all to remain open minded. Eventual additional debates always help people to hear ideas and to listen.

    The saying "Don't listen to what people say, watch what they do" pops into my head here.

    I have closely followed Kasich since his days at Fox "News." He is a charlatan who says things that make him seem moderate, but pushes legislation that is to the right of Reagan.

    Kasich is as far right as they get when it comes to every single Democratic Party priority. Don't let his "heartland" tone of voice fool you. He would be just as bad, if not worse, than Donald. At least we know what we're getting with Donald, but people like Kasich will smile on television and talk about love, peace, and compassion between all Americans while working to move the country to the far (seriously, far) right behind the scenes at the same time.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    No thanks, the R party is just too right/extreme for me. I didn't like Mrs. Clinton, but she got my vote anyway. Being a staunch democrat, I vote straight D ticket all the time. I have fear of what the right is capable of doing to the programs democrats have fought so hard to keep. Although I'll agree there's times when the D party needs help from republican moderates. I don't believe Kasich is a moderate though.
  • Center Left
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    In Ohio they have Medicaid with a Republican Gov.. Florida has it too and you can apply if you're A. over 65 or B. Pregnant woman. Ohio covers poor persons who need assistance.

    Glad you have it all figured out. Stay close minded. Who are you voting for in '20 since you have all the answers.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote:

    In Ohio they have Medicaid with a Republican Gov.. Florida has it too and you can apply if you're A. over 65 or B. Pregnant woman. Ohio covers poor persons who need assistance.

    Glad you have it all figured out. Stay close minded.

    That's a little harsh. I am by no means close minded and have never once suggested that I have all the answers.

    Just because Ohio expanded Medicaid doesn't mean that Kasich is a knight in shining armor. He understood (and rightfully so) that he governed a moderate state that had a hell of a lot of lower income people and that he would very likely lose reelection in 2014 if he didn't expand Medicaid. I can pretty much guarantee you that he would have never pushed to expand Medicaid if he wasn't up for reelection in 2014.

    All I'm suggesting is that Kasich is not as moderate as you're claiming. Please research his policy positions on the various issues and then ask yourself if that is the type of person you would like to lead a country of over 300 million people.

    TJ Wrote: Who are you voting for in '20 since you have all the answers.

    I'll vote for the Democratic nominee whoever it is, unlike the "Bernie or Bust" assholes who convinced themselves that a vote for Jill Stein would really stick it to the man and teach rank and file Democrats a lesson. I hope they are still sleeping soundly now that we have a reality television star as our President and a racist Senator from Alabama as our Attorney General.

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    Not to mention the charter school mess in Ohio as well. While Kasich appears moderate in comparison to the rest of the idiots that filled the GOP clown car he is not a moderate. The GOP has veered so far to the right it is hard to imagine many of them supporting the civil rights act or the boring rights act when many did in the sixties. Kasich likely would have been a staunch conservative in the sixties standing far to the right in a GOP that had moderates and even liberals in it in the sixties. But those times are over.
  • Center Left
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    Sorry for my earlier reply. I too will vote Democratic although it's easy to be discouraged by the loses in the last 10 years.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote: Sorry for my earlier reply. I too will vote Democratic although it's easy to be discouraged by the loses in the last 10 years.

    Democrats pulled us out of the Great Recession that W got us into, brought 100,000 soldiers fighting in far off lands home, and passed a law that guaranteed every person in this country has a right to health coverage.

    I want single-payer more than anything else in this world (I'll remind everyone that was my college thesis project), but Obamacare is a shit ton better than what we had before. People seem to forget that.

    So I understand that it's easy to be discouraged, but John Kasich is not the "moderate" knight in shining armor that will save our country.


    "Democrats fall in love while Republicans fall in line." It's cliche as hell, but it's also true. I guarantee you there were plenty of Donald voters who hated that they voted for Donald, but they hated the idea of a Democrat being President even more. On the other hand, many Bernie supporters decided that a vote for Jill Stein was the better option.

    That's what drives me nuts about ideologically pure so called liberals. They let the perfect be the enemy of the good every single time and then blame everyone but themselves when the shit hits the fan.


    *Update* - I was in no way trying to accuse you of being an ideologically pure so called liberal. I should have been more clear that I was upset with Bernie/Stein voters and not you.

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    TJ Wrote: Sorry for my earlier reply. I too will vote Democratic although it's easy to be discouraged by the loses in the last 10 years.
    Didn't think you were saying that you would vote Republican. And Kasich does have the generated image of being moderate. It simply is due imo to the rest of the party being borderline psychotic.
  • Liberal
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    It seems as if TJ has already been influenced by that Florida "bug"! There is NO Republican alive today that should ever be elected president. Sorry, that's a fact.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Meh, that's the problem with some democrats, they're too soft, they need to toughen up a bit especially knowing that when Obama tried reaching across the aisle to the cons, he got his hand slapped. I'd be calling for at least 4 years of harshness towards republicans. BTW OP, Kasich is NOT a moderate, and he would be no better than our present VP, or who we have now as prez.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    pr Wrote: It seems as if TJ has already been influenced by that Florida "bug"! There is NO Republican alive today that should ever be elected president. Sorry, that's a fact.
    Where's that like button?