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    "I just don't understand why you are so opposed to a project like this when you have written countless posts lamenting the plight of the unemployed and downtrodden. It makes absolutely no sense."

    There are a multitude of projects that could use the $200,000,000 seed money to produce more lifetime jobs in the area than the low maintenance once installed solar panels.

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    Chet -- We have discussed coal country many times on this website. During the election, I offered up Hillary Clinton's proposals to help revitalize coal country communities, and you scorned those proposals as well.

    Hillary Clinton’s Plan for Revitalizing Coal Communities

    Hillary Clinton didn't pull this plan out of her ass. It started with her "listening tour" and incudes the professional opinions of many of the experts she consulted.

    But no she wasn't born in coal country, so what does she know? I know it didn't pass your smell test.

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    Dockadams Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Schmidt, Did you see the picture of the sight? If anything they are diverting the responsibility if returning that destroyed land to a solar farm that the reclamation will be paid by somebody else. Placing a solar farm in an expensive to develop hard to service area best turned into a wilderness game preserve does not make sense. There are not enough people there to use the power that and the farm will permanently displace and alter the wildlife and vegetation that are supposed to be returned.

    I'm thinking the wildlife had already left the area when those dumb humans began digging up the areas with their polluting heavy diesel powered equipment.

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    If a person is put out of a job, then it's time for them to move onto something else, they need to find themselves another skill or a trade, and not just sit around their trailers on unemployment compensation and crying in their beer. And please, don't anybody here say it can't be done because millions of people have lost jobs and decidedly moved on to finding other jobs, they didn't sit around whining and feeling sorry for themselves.

    Dockadams -- That's an impressive machine. However, I would disagree with the company burying it. It should become a part of the coal country's heritage...the center piece in a museum perhaps. In my former mining city of Butte, MT the residents cherish all the mine head frames and promote them as a part of tourism. The original head frame is now the site of the annual folk festival. That mine was close to our house.
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Chet -- We have discussed coal country many times on this website. During the election, I offered up Hillary Clinton's proposals to help revitalize coal country communities, and you scorned those proposals as well.

    Hillary Clinton’s Plan for Revitalizing Coal Communities

    Hillary Clinton didn't pull this plan out of her ass. It started with her "listening tour" and incudes the professional opinions of many of the experts she consulted.

    But no she wasn't born in coal country, so what does she know? I know it didn't pass your smell test.

    What's your point? Your Hillary had a typical credentialized non involved textbook solution. The only viable solution would have been to offer complete no cost resettlement, training, subsistence and job. The only hope for remaining home would have been monthly income checks. The areas are too remote and inaccessible to attract any kind of business. That's why there were and are no businesses there. There were coal mines there because the coal seams exposed themselves to the surface inviting easy extraction. The local grew up driving the hazardous roads. All of this oblivious to Hillary and advisers.

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    Chet -- I'm not suggesting that many of the "company camps" be saved. Company camps (they now call themselves towns) that have a few hundred people have been a product of oil fields, and mining areas for the entre history of America. When the purpose of their existence in the first place dies, the camp needs to die with it. That's the way it has been out west. It's okay for coal country as well.

    What I am talking about is the small towns with populations of a few thousand that supported multiple camps over the years. There is potential in many of them, if they quit the blame game and started looking inward at what they can do to help themselves. This is where Hillary's plan comes in to assist.

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    There is a misconception about unemployment in the coal mining industry. It started big time in the early 80's . Actually the unemployed miners happened mostly under Reagan, Bush1 and Clinton due to tthe advent of underground Long Wall Mining and Advanced Technique and Machinery in Strip Mining. In a 30 plus year period the number of miners was cut in half while the output remained about the same.