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Bumping passengers from flights

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    By now everyone has seen countless times those video clips of the United passenger being forcibly removed from United Flight 3411. We know that outrage quite well. However, if you want another perspective on what happened, you might want to read the following article:

    I Know You’re Mad at United but… (Thoughts from a Pilot Wife About Flight 3411)

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Pensacola, FL
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    I think this will be a landmark case, maybe? I don't know what rights are given up when a ticket is bought, but Dow bought and paid for that seat. Unless covered in the ticket purchase, I think Dow may be able to bring felony charges against various parties. I had a case where a crew of 6 workers were continually brought out of the mine late. Averaged about 10 minutes. The company said they would pay overtime for the extra time. I said it was imposing problems with the miners because some car pooled with other workers causing other people to have to wait. But I said they don't need any reasons or excuses for wanting to be out on time. It is their right. I said that if it happened again that charges of restraint of movement and kidnapping would be filed. I think Dow is positioned to levy some very serious charges unless the removal is covered in the ticket purchase agreement.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    Schmidt Wrote: By now everyone has seen countless times those video clips of the United passenger being forcibly removed from United Flight 3411. We know that outrage quite well. However, if you want another perspective on what happened, you might want to read the following article:

    I Know You’re Mad at United but… (Thoughts from a Pilot Wife About Flight 3411)

    It's an interesting article and I understand her point of view, but the airline industry is one of the most hated industries in the United States and the image of cops dragging a paying customer off of a plane in order to give it to another flight attendant is all that most people will remember.

    I actually appreciate the opposing view and her blog makes a lot of sense, but United's PR nightmare is about far more than doing everything by the book because customers clicked "yes" to a pages long agreement when we purchased our ticket. Public perception is a hell of a lot more important than any user agreement we may agree to.

    The fact that United also offered way (wayyyyy) below the maximum amount of money allowed to entice customers to voluntarily leave also rubs me the wrong way.

  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I understand that on the ticket is a the disclaimer that you can be bumped off the plane, also my understanding is that this was not a case of overbooking but a case for allowing another flight crew to board so they can fly another aircraft awaiting them in Louisville. Dragging a passenger off of the aircraft and having it filmed is a PR nightmare, perhaps this might be the straw that broke the camels back regarding passenger rights and overbooking.

  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    Just another example of the authoritarian police state we now live it. It's always been this way but at least, Before Trumpy, it wasn't as public. Today these POS authoritarian's feel they have carte blanche to do whatever they please to whomever they please.

    Welcom to America - it's really grate now! s/n

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Typical; again I'm going to state that the "military" like training as well "police" is at fault. should be As I said many times ex -military never should be allowed into the police; shoot to kill as well "beat-up" people is taught in the army. Of course J.C. will not agree, but I don't care. He got an concussion, two front teeth knocked out as well an broken nose. You don't get that by just "removing" an passenger. So when is this country going to learn that the job of the police is to serve and protect; not to beat people up or kill them at sight.