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President Xi Jinping of China visit to Mar Lago and Quid pro quo

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    China President Xi Jinping's visit to the USA at Trump's "Southern White House" will be a test of two opposing worldviews. And with the discussions will be quid pro quo...

    As reported by CNN, in "advance of the meeting, the Chinese government this week finally gave Donald Trump's company trademark protection for use of his name in the construction industry. Trump sought protection and control of his trademark in the Chinese courts for years, including at the time of his campaign. Last September, China's trademark review board announced it would invalidate a rival claim for Trump's mark, and in November, after he was elected, the board gave the trademark to the President's business. This week it was officially registered."

    Now Trump has to give something to China in return.

    How about extending that lease of the 20,404 square feet of office space at Trump Tower by the state-owned Industrial & Commercial Bank of China, the world’s biggest lender measured by assets. The bank’s lease is set to expire in 2019 and now would be a good time to get that extension while quid pro quo is the norm...

    Oh and how about that deal Jared Kushner is in the process of making. As reported by Bloomberg, Kushners May Get $400 Million From Chinese on Tower. Now you're talking Trump's language.

    Okay once these deals are taken care of, they can devote some time to the other issues for public consumption.

    North Korea will obviously be a topic for discussion, and Trump and Tillerson are "talking tough" about what they want China to do...or the USA will go it alone. What that "going it alone" would mean is hard to say. Trump says he's not going to reveal any plans as that would be tipping his hand.

    Trade is another topic where Trump has talked tough promises tariffs of anywhere from 45 percent to 25 percent depending on his audience and mood. China knows this tough talk to US audiences. Will Trump talk tough to China like he did to Merkel on NATO payments in arears? We'll see.

    It kind of depends on all the other deals...Kushner's and Trump's. Quid pro quo...

    It's the way Trump does business American style. But President Xi is a hell of a lot smarter than Trump. Who will win?

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Oh and I forgot to mention, Jared Kushner is back in town after straightening out the generals in Iraq in the war against ISIS. Wonder boy Kushner will have a prominent seat at the table when negotiations start in secret. We can be sure he will be looking after American interests...just like father-in-law Trump does. Sleep well.

    One more point. All this stuff is being done at Mar Lago, Trump's private estate. What goes on in Mar Lago stays in Mar Lago, away fro the prying eyes in Washington DC. Any private deals struck on private property should not have the scrutiny of those pesky people worrying about conflicts of interest.

    Okay, I'm getting carried away with my cynicism. Sorry.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Oh and I forgot to mention, Jared Kushner is back in town after straightening out the generals in Iraq in the war against ISIS. Wonder boy Kushner will have a prominent seat at the table when negotiations start in secret. We can be sure he will be looking after American interests...just like father-in-law Trump does. Sleep well.

    One more point. All this stuff is being done at Mar Lago, Trump's private estate. What goes on in Mar Lago stays in Mar Lago, away fro the prying eyes in Washington DC. Any private deals struck on private property should not have the scrutiny of those pesky people worrying about conflicts of interest.

    Okay, I'm getting carried away with my cynicism. Sorry.

    Schmidt, don't be sorry. What you said I did say that also about his dealing and wheeling in FL . But the stupid government here just closes its eyes and let him do and act as any dictator with kids. It is the Romanovs all over again. When is this country waking up??????
  • Liberal Democrat
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    New York Magazine, April 5, 2017: How China’s Leader Is Playing Donald Trump

    pr referenced this excellent article in the thread on North Korea. I added it here also as it exemplifies how world leaders have learned to play Trump at his own game. Trump has made several ultimatums on China during his campaign. The following paragraph is an extract from the article:

    "Xi knows how such ultimatums should be handled. He has prepared the ground through informal channels, with his adept ambassador to Washington cultivating the ever-self-confident Jared Kushner and working around the more watchful diplomats and policy makers in the rest of the U.S. government (who mostly objected to the Mar-a-Lago meeting happening at all). He has crafted “a package of pledges designed to give the U.S. president some ‘tweetable’ promises to present as victories,” as the Washington Post put it, shiny objects that will placate Trump without ceding real ground. As the White House gloats in triumph, the Chinese will be happy to play along. And Xi will go home having gotten what he needs to strengthen his domestic position: praise for skillful handling of Washington and credit for exposing his American counterpart as a “paper tiger.”

    That's how President Xi will play Trump and he won't even know he has been played (or will refuse to admit it). It's the art of the deal...for China. Ha.

    Unless Trump screws it up...

  • Independent
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    Anyway, the whole of West Palm is pissed off again for the fifth time; lets hope they start an revolution. His neighbors there are ready to kill him. That is what you get if you don't make strict laws for Presidents to become one and neither "vet" them.
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    China President Xi Jinping's visit to the USA at Trump's "Southern White House" will be a test of two opposing worldviews. And with the discussions will be quid pro quo...

    As reported by CNN, in "advance of the meeting, the Chinese government this week finally gave Donald Trump's company trademark protection for use of his name in the construction industry. Trump sought protection and control of his trademark in the Chinese courts for years, including at the time of his campaign. Last September, China's trademark review board announced it would invalidate a rival claim for Trump's mark, and in November, after he was elected, the board gave the trademark to the President's business. This week it was officially registered."

    Now Trump has to give something to China in return.

    How about extending that lease of the 20,404 square feet of office space at Trump Tower by the state-owned Industrial & Commercial Bank of China, the world’s biggest lender measured by assets. The bank’s lease is set to expire in 2019 and now would be a good time to get that extension while quid pro quo is the norm...

    Oh and how about that deal Jared Kushner is in the process of making. As reported by Bloomberg, Kushners May Get $400 Million From Chinese on Tower. Now you're talking Trump's language.

    Okay once these deals are taken care of, they can devote some time to the other issues for public consumption.

    North Korea will obviously be a topic for discussion, and Trump and Tillerson are "talking tough" about what they want China to do...or the USA will go it alone. What that "going it alone" would mean is hard to say. Trump says he's not going to reveal any plans as that would be tipping his hand.

    Trade is another topic where Trump has talked tough promises tariffs of anywhere from 45 percent to 25 percent depending on his audience and mood. China knows this tough talk to US audiences. Will Trump talk tough to China like he did to Merkel on NATO payments in arears? We'll see.

    It kind of depends on all the other deals...Kushner's and Trump's. Quid pro quo...

    It's the way Trump does business American style. But President Xi is a hell of a lot smarter than Trump. Who will win?

    Yes Schmidt; that is what you get if you don't "vet" an President candidate; and who the hell will stop this "mafia" bunch?

    Great country, laws apply only for the lower classes; not the rich. Where is the "oversight"???

    I doubt very much that Merkel nor Europe will see the US as an partner who they can trust. About China; they will just continue doing what they want regardless of the "clown" here. The US is now number 8 on the world stage.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Trump bombing Syria after meeting with China has to imply China's approval of the bombing.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Trump bombing Syria after meeting with China has to imply China's approval of the bombing.

    No, China was not informed; may be afterwards to boast. Also the Congress was not asked for approval. It shows exactly what I've been saying forever; Trumps objective is to be an"dictator" who does not need approval from anyone. The visit of the China leader at Mar-a-Lago is also an typical "dictator" thing , so no on knows what was said or discussed down there; Trump can say anything he wants (lies?) about this visit. This stupid "cruise missile" exercise was only to get the attention of all the shit surrounding him. Nothing else. Most of the cruise missiles did not even hit the target; of the 59 launched only 30% did. Thus an tremendous success. Nothing has been achieved; the Russians nor Assad were impressed.

    If he wants to impress China; forget it.

    It is time Trump realizes that the US is no longer in charge of happenings around the world under his leadership; no one trusts him.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Steak and lettuce was the meal as reported by Lester Holt.
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    They're most likely pissed off at how much it costs them to protect his sorry ass.
  • Independent
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    Of course as I predicted Trump boasted that it was an fantastic visit and he made great "deals" and all was "rosy".

    ( Liar)

  • Liberal Democrat
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    In browsing the news, I can't seem to find anything significant that came out of the Chinese visit to Mar-a-Lago other than a reference to a "100-Day Plan" proposed by President Xi to address trade issues. No details were provided I assume because this plan is open to negotiation. So now we'll see how Trump can apply his "Art of the Deal" skills. This is what Trump says is his strength, and making a deal on trade with China should be right up his ally.

    The Chinese, of course, are not dumb. They know how to play Trump.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    In browsing the news, I can't seem to find anything significant that came out of the Chinese visit to Mar-a-Lago other than a reference to a "100-Day Plan" proposed by President Xi to address trade issues. No details were provided I assume because this plan is open to negotiation. So now we'll see how Trump can apply his "Art of the Deal" skills. This is what Trump says is his strength, and making a deal on trade with China should be right up his ally.

    The Chinese, of course, are not dumb. They know how to play Trump.

    Schmidt; may be you did not see it, but I did, when he boasted his usual B.S.

    Anyway, I don't understand this government, that they leave him "alone" in FL to deal with this important China visit. This is again pure "dictorial" This should have taken place in the correct setting in Washington with the proper people attending. Only dictators do what he is doing.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt, just an question; did anyone see or knows what exactly was discussed and what the answers were from the Chinese leader. I guess not; that is what you get when there are "no rules" about having installed an "semi dictator" who deals in secret at his own "palace" instead of in the White House. So we don't know if the Chinese leader was "pissed off" or was happy with Trump's idea's. Looking at that (we did send warships in that region), then I don't believe the Chinese guy loved that idea.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    No we don't have any results of the discussions other than what Sean Spicer feeds us in his daily stump speech. The Financial Times is reporting that Trump got two concessions out of the Chinese:

    1. Better access by US financial firms to the Chinese market.

    2. More beef exports to China.

    The rest of the trade stuff will be negotiated in their 100 Day Plan...a work in progress.