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Wiki leaks/CIA cyber protection issues

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  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Right now Wiki Leaks Assange says that the CIA is compromised related to safeguard their "cyber hacking/intercepting/ etc.

    My feeling on this is , that Trump is again behind all of this. Kind of strange that Assange comes with this information, just after Trump tweeted that Obama wire tapped him in Trump Tower. Trump wants to nail the CIA, because he wants a grip on them, so he can play his "dirty" games without oversight. His visit to the CIA with an "mock" group of people before the "star" fallen hero's wall, clearly gave the impression that he's not charmed with them; because they are supposed to be impartial. They likely know an lot about Trump, of things which can't see the "daylight". Therefore he wants to nail them, via Wiki leaks; so he can "fire" them and put his own"cronies" into that Department. For people with brains, it should be obvious by now that he wants to be an "dictator" who is not controlled by anyone. Oversight related to his own "business" is already made in-operable. That section which is supposed to do that; is already an "lame" department right now. He wants to do that with any department which does not totally support him or could be "negative" related to him or has "dirt" on him.

    AMERICA WAKE UP!

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I have to admit that I can't follow your logic.

    I'm just not someone who believes in conspiracy theories. Trump gave top secret documents to Wikileaks that will very likely be detrimental to US national security in an attempt to put his cronies in at the CIA? That just doesn't make sense because there are too many people in the national security agencies that could easily leak that he did that.

    My guess is that a foreign government or organization hacked into the CIA and released this information to Wikileaks.

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    Re: Trump

    I do not look for logical explanations for the things he does. If he believes he can profit, deflect damage to his "brand" or enhance his "brand" then he does it.

    As for cyber-security there is no such thing. Thus the concept of "the cloud" is deeply flawed.

  • Liberal
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I have to admit that I can't follow your logic.

    I'm just not someone who believes in conspiracy theories. Trump gave top secret documents to Wikileaks that will very likely be detrimental to US national security in an attempt to put his cronies in at the CIA? That just doesn't make sense because there are too many people in the national security agencies that could easily leak that he did that.

    My guess is that a foreign government or organization hacked into the CIA and released this information to Wikileaks.

    I'm not sure Trumpie would understand top secret documents if he ever took the time to read them. More likely Bannon or one of his handlers is responsible.
  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I have to admit that I can't follow your logic.

    I'm just not someone who believes in conspiracy theories. Trump gave top secret documents to Wikileaks that will very likely be detrimental to US national security in an attempt to put his cronies in at the CIA? That just doesn't make sense because there are too many people in the national security agencies that could easily leak that he did that.

    My guess is that a foreign government or organization hacked into the CIA and released this information to Wikileaks.

    Yeah, if true, there is a 99.9% chance its not a conspiracy and it came from an CIA insider similar to snowden or the CIA got hacked. And lets not forget Russians have a great deal of $$$$ to create fake BS that looks real enough.

    As a side note, I went to a Trump forum, and they have several conspiracies about the wiretapping, how Obama still controls the CIA and FBI, and instructs them to:

    • Falsify records against Trump, thus anything leaked against Trump is always faked by the CIA.
    • Continues to illegally wiretape Trump in the Oval office, home, plane, bathroom, etc (explains many leaks),
    • Organize all the demonstrations against Trump,
    • Funnel Billions of tax payer money money to the democrats,
    • Falsified Obama birth records to say he was born in the USA
    • Obama takes pills to make his skin look less black.


    Let's not go down that road in terms of conspiracies.

  • Independent
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    Why did did that British Brexit guy (forgot his name; may be Farrage?) did visit Assange as well visited Trump past week? There must be an connection in relation to "paint" the CIA "black". How about the timing? Of course Trump does not know anything about cyber warfare. But he loves Wikileaks and Asange. So he still can use that connection to "nail" the CIA, because it irritates him that he has no grip on them. He wants "total" power,that is his objective.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Why did did that British Brexit guy (forgot his name; may be Farrage?) did visit Assange as well visited Trump past week? There must be an connection in relation to "paint" the CIA "black". How about the timing? Of course Trump does not know anything about cyber warfare. But he loves Wikileaks and Asange. So he still can use that connection to "nail" the CIA, because it irritates him that he has no grip on them. He wants "total" power,that is his objective.

    None of it makes any sense though.

    Why would Donald leak classified information that makes the CIA look bad after his pick for the CIA is confirmed by the Senate? If he wanted to sabotage things then he should have done so before Mike Pompeo was confirmed.

  • Independent
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    Jared, sorry but you have way too much confidence in the system. But we'll wait and see. The latest which proves my point is that Trump wants "total' power without interference and wants 46 US attorneys to resign, as was stated on CNN. Sure Clinton did Fire 93 of them, but replaced them, however I think Trump will not replace them. Someone in an article said about the fired NY district attorney:

    "He said he suspected Bharara "could be reviewing a range of potential improper activity emanating from Trump Tower and the Trump campaign, as well as entities with financial ties to the president or the Trump organization."

    Guess why? He hates lawyers and attorney's; proof: he lost an lot of lawsuits in the past; he hated the "Mexican" born lawyer and had to pay $25 million to pay off the Trump University lawsuit etc.; he lost his "Muslim ban" to "lawyers" and may lose it again. Thus his objective the same as I said about the CIA is not to have anyone who looks over his shoulder, except Bannon and Miller. Americans seemingly never have learned to "read" the big picture. Jared I showed you what the picture was related to Hillary, so I would guess you would learned from that. Thus not.

    Also the situation with Tillerson shows that he has decimated that Department on purpose. Guess what for? As well his ploy about theRussian interference,as well his "conflict of interests" by still dealing and wheeling with his own business; especially when he is at his "palace" in Florida, he wants no eavesdropping.