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A special hell for greed.


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  • Chet Ruminski
    2017-02-20 10:43:27 PM
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    If you believe in that sort of thing I think there will be a special hell for mandating MPG while at the same time completely avoiding mandating collision avoidance in cars. Collision avoidance is working its way through the back door of extra cost options into cars. Death, disfigurement, suffering and unbelievable amounts of money could have been avoided years ago by installing collision avoidance systems in cars. Where is another Ralph Nader? They tried to destroy him over "Unsafe at Any Speed". Guess that would dissuade anybody. I didn't even like writing this post. Who's going to speak up???
  • wwjd
    2017-02-21 03:18:09 AM
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    I would think\wonder why insurance companies don't apply the required pressure, or work closely with the auto industry, to make cars safer. Insurance companies do all kinds of studies, and know that often simple changes in safety can save them millions pure year by preventing accidents and\or reducing injuries. Lawsuits being one the biggest costs.
  • Chet Ruminski
    2017-02-21 11:45:38 AM
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    wwjd Wrote: I would think\wonder why insurance companies don't apply the required pressure, or work closely with the auto industry, to make cars safer. Insurance companies do all kinds of studies, and know that often simple changes in safety can save them millions pure year by preventing accidents and\or reducing injuries. Lawsuits being one the biggest costs.
    Safe cars don't need insurance companies. Insurance companies do the best job of almost helping.
  • Chet Ruminski
    2017-02-21 11:49:05 AM
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    But be forewarned of poking the two biggest most powerful bears in the world.
  • Dutch
    2017-02-21 12:07:32 PM
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    As long that here are no "self driving" cars on the road; it remains the human "error " factor which plays an role.

    One of the main factors creating accidents is indeed stupidity; like driving while texting, using the cell phone, being drunk or intoxciated by drugs. etc. As long they ( here in FL) refuse to introduce "hands free driving" like in Europe, then accidents are self inflicted wounds.


  • Chet Ruminski
    2017-02-21 01:50:46 PM
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    I ride with friends that have the computer controlled safety features like automatic braking. They all have turned it off because it is too safe. Slows down when they wouldn't.
  • Chet Ruminski
    2017-02-21 05:47:39 PM
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    Dutch Wrote:

    As long that here are no "self driving" cars on the road; it remains the human "error " factor which plays an role.

    One of the main factors creating accidents is indeed stupidity; like driving while texting, using the cell phone, being drunk or intoxciated by drugs. etc. As long they ( here in FL) refuse to introduce "hands free driving" like in Europe, then accidents are self inflicted wounds.

    Dutch, There are a lot of extra cost options for collision avoidance. The government could simply mandate that these life saving injury preventing features be on all cars. They spend hundreds of millions of dollars crashing cars. Why not spend some of that crash money to avoid crashes.
  • Dutch
    2017-02-22 09:03:55 AM
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    Chet, like you said yourself; if they turn these features "off" what good is it? They still text and drive or get drunk behind the wheel; the car does not know that!!! Unless the car itself does not let you drive before taking an test; however people find always ways to avoid doing so and bypass the system.
  • Schmidt
    2017-02-22 09:20:25 AM
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    Back in the 50s we didn't have seat belts, or air bags, or even signal lights. If we planned to turn we put our arm out of the window to signal. Traveling with my parents, one of us kids got the privilege of sitting in the middle of the front seat. No seat belt. There were no four lane highways. Just 2 lane roads, and we drove slow enough to be able to read the Burma Shave sequence of signs along the side of the road.

    Oh and my Dad drove always carefully and alert...no distractions, no radio, and no bells and whistles to warn him of dangers. Just his own instincts. And I'm here today because of it.

  • Dutch
    2017-02-22 10:28:37 AM
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Back in the 50s we didn't have seat belts, or air bags, or even signal lights. If we planned to turn we put our arm out of the window to signal. Traveling with my parents, one of us kids got the privilege of sitting in the middle of the front seat. No seat belt. There were no four lane highways. Just 2 lane roads, and we drove slow enough to be able to read the Burma Shave sequence of signs along the side of the road.

    Oh and my Dad drove always carefully and alert...no distractions, no radio, and no bells and whistles to warn him of dangers. Just his own instincts. And I'm here today because of it.

    If you are taking of the good old days; I started to drive when there was no speed limit on the highways in the Netherlands. I had an Alfa Romeo GTV coupe my normal speed was 180 kilometers/hr. Also my Renault Alpine V6 coupe beat that later on. I learned to drive at the "gliding" club towing gliders back to the starting point from where they were launched. Yes the good old times.
  • Chet Ruminski
    2017-02-22 10:36:48 AM
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    Dutch Wrote: Chet, like you said yourself; if they turn these features "off" what good is it? They still text and drive or get drunk behind the wheel; the car does not know that!!! Unless the car itself does not let you drive before taking an test; however people find always ways to avoid doing so and bypass the system.
    That is why it should be mandated by the government. Pollution and mileage controls are hard to defeat. The majority of people aren't up to the responsibility of living.
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