Dutch, I use the word poor out of habit. I will find a term that I can use to describe the element of an institution or enterprize that compromize a basic fundamental essential but not critical segment. I want to analogize poor people to the nonessential but required members of a business. That might help people get over thinking that people are not expendable members of society. Any successful business runs counter to the way conservatives want to run the country. I want to show that disrespecting and ignoring a segment of the population comes at a great cost. In the contemporary situation it has resulted in a president with greater self interest than the interest of the country. Making sure that the lowest elements of a population are taken care of by the normal operation and rules will ensure everything is taken care of. Right now you have the results of a self interested segment denying responsibility for the results of a self interest attitude. Trump is not the result of a few lazy voteres. He is the result of selfishness denying low class problems. Winner take all and win at any cost are the destruction of a society.
Chet Ruminski Wrote: Crime and violence is up,
Chet Ruminski Wrote: the recession proof movie industry is losing income,
Not true, but who cares if it is?
Chet Ruminski Wrote: restaurants are losing income,
Also not true.
Chet Ruminski Wrote: the stock market is at 20k for no reason.
I wouldn't say no reason.
Chet Ruminski Wrote: Hate and discontent is growing replacing reason and communication.
Chet Ruminski Wrote: The outrage over immigrants is superseding the results of the immigration problem. Indignation is the overriding emotion because indignation masquerades responsibility. Getting mad is not a solution, it is a waste of energy and an excuse for ignorance.
Again - Thanks, Donald.
"And he will answer, 'I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.'"
There has always been concern for the unfortunate. Denying the unfortunate is going to cost severely. It is already prevalent.
Chet Ruminski Wrote: I would rather see Warren demanding health insurance for the people that can't afford it. To me telling people that can't afford insurance that they are excused from buying insurance is telling those people nobody cares if they die. That's what it looks like to me.
Can that possibly be because Republican dominated states decided to let those people die? The blue states who actually care about their people expanded Medicaid.
If people in Alabama don't want the gobnet telling them what to do then they shouldn't bitch and moan when the gobnet leaves them to die when they get cancer.
The Atlantic’s Derek Thompson points out that “in 2016, the film industry is on pace to sell the fewest U.S. tickets per person of any year since perhaps before the 1920s and the fewest total tickets in two decades.
U.S. restaurant sales grew in the second quarter at their slowest pace since December 2009. As restaurants start reporting third-quarter results this week, investors should expect to see the pain continue.
Sales growth at North American restaurants in the second quarter was the slowest since 2009.
These are indicators of a declining economy.
The underlying struggle can be summed up in the following:
market justice vs social justice. This is not arbitrarily social justice of the social justice gospel strain of Christianity but that does come fairly close. It is the justice of community. It is the justice of how economic impacts are mitigated over the width and breadth of society as a living, breathing whole. Market justice reduces justice and freedom to information asymmetry, power wielded based upon wealth and so-called choice reduced to extremity for those lacking wealth. It is one dollar, one vote. And you ain't got enough dollars. Thus democracy and capitalism are by nature at cross purposes. Capital assumes democracy will redistribute downward leveling the decision-making machinery. Democracy assumes, correctly imo from the evidence, that capitalism redistributes upwards particularly financialized capitalism. And ALL capitalism is financialized.
So why do we care about der ubergroppenfuhrer? Because despite his populist tone the underpinnings of his actions are market justice as opposed to social justice. The key belief he holds is that American workers make too much money. That alone should have been enough to deny him the necessary votes to win Hamilton's poorly justified system. But then again the founders were not democrats. They were generally the plutocrats of the day.
Lonely, Very interesting....
I wish I knew more.
TJ Wrote:Lonely, Very interesting....I wish I knew more.
TJ, try two books by Wolfgang Streeck, "Buying Time" and "How Will Capitalism End?" Also Robert Gordon's "The Rise and Fall of American Growth."
Capital requires constantly expanding growth framed as "new markets." Yet it also requires raw materials from places that are not allowed to develop in the same manner as the center of capital. The system runs into the problem of infinite growth on a finite planet. And as capital freedom requires separating "the economy" from society as a whole thus preventing so-called interference in the economy by democracy. Capital demands unaccountable economic technocrats "run" the economy while government, democracy, stands aside twiddling its thumbs.
and those lacking wealth are caught between the forces.
lonely bird Wrote:TJ Wrote:Lonely, Very interesting....I wish I knew more. TJ, try two books by Wolfgang Streeck, "Buying Time" and "How Will Capitalism End?" Also Robert Gordon's "The Rise and Fall of American Growth."Capital requires constantly expanding growth framed as "new markets." Yet it also requires raw materials from places that are not allowed to develop in the same manner as the center of capital. The system runs into the problem of infinite growth on a finite planet. And as capital freedom requires separating "the economy" from society as a whole thus preventing so-called interference in the economy by democracy. Capital demands unaccountable economic technocrats "run" the economy while government, democracy, stands aside twiddling its thumbs.and those lacking wealth are caught between the forces.