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Malignant Narcissism and Trump

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    usucut, Johns Hopkins’ Top Psychologist Releases Terrifying Diagnosis of President Trump

    We have another thread on the mind of Donald Trump but I thought I would give this one its own. As each day goes by, we are shocked again and again at the antics of Trump. His Muslim ban today is just another in a line of incredulous actions that have little justification and hurt innocent people. No comment necessary. Just wanted to share what we already know and have discussed.

    "John D. Gartner, a psychotherapist at Johns Hopkins University believes Trump has “malignant narcissism,” which is incurable, and different from narcissistic personality disorder. Donald Trump is dangerously mentally ill and temperamentally incapable of being president,” Gartner said, citing his movements and behavior, pointing out the president’s tendency for grandiosity, sadism, aggressiveness, paranoia, and anti-social behavioral patterns."

    "Malignant Narcissists will go to great lengths to achieve their aim. They can be intelligent, high functioning (hold an important job for example) soft-spoken, charming, tearful/seemingly emotional, gracious, well mannered, kind and have the ability to form relationships. They may lie, falsely accuse, dramatize, smear, cheat, steal, manipulate, accuse, blame or twist to get what they want and feel justified in doing so. Because they are entitled, egocentric and desperate, they do not experience it as wrong. They are determined to gratify their wishes and furious if thwarted. Their desire can be so consuming that there is little comprehension of, respect for or ability to empathize with the other. They lack guilt or remorse and tend to feel or pronounce that it is they who have been mistreated."

  • Independent
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    Thanks Schmidt; yes absolutely true. However I like to add: He's got as well an huge "inferiority complex" ; as soon as he can't sit on his "throne" he gets totally upset; he's the "King" and loves it if people price him into heaven. Also he has absolutely no compassion for people who struggle or are "lower" than he thinks he is.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Did anybody watch David Muir interview Trump? It was truly scary if you believe Trump had ulterior motives. Trump handled himself with David like Hillary handled the Benghazi panel. Remember the almost immediate reversal that should have cost him the election. From not raising the minimum wage one week to lots of good paying jobs the next week.
  • Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    usucut, Johns Hopkins’ Top Psychologist Releases Terrifying Diagnosis of President Trump

    We have another thread on the mind of Donald Trump but I thought I would give this one its own. As each day goes by, we are shocked again and again at the antics of Trump. His Muslim ban today is just another in a line of incredulous actions that have little justification and hurt innocent people. No comment necessary. Just wanted to share what we already know and have discussed.

    "John D. Gartner, a psychotherapist at Johns Hopkins University believes Trump has “malignant narcissism,” which is incurable, and different from narcissistic personality disorder. Donald Trump is dangerously mentally ill and temperamentally incapable of being president,” Gartner said, citing his movements and behavior, pointing out the president’s tendency for grandiosity, sadism, aggressiveness, paranoia, and anti-social behavioral patterns."

    "Malignant Narcissists will go to great lengths to achieve their aim. They can be intelligent, high functioning (hold an important job for example) soft-spoken, charming, tearful/seemingly emotional, gracious, well mannered, kind and have the ability to form relationships. They may lie, falsely accuse, dramatize, smear, cheat, steal, manipulate, accuse, blame or twist to get what they want and feel justified in doing so. Because they are entitled, egocentric and desperate, they do not experience it as wrong. They are determined to gratify their wishes and furious if thwarted. Their desire can be so consuming that there is little comprehension of, respect for or ability to empathize with the other. They lack guilt or remorse and tend to feel or pronounce that it is they who have been mistreated."

  • Democrat
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    I struggle with a mental illness and as such it is very evident to me about Trump's condition. What is troubling is not that he is problem-ridden, but rather that he is in denial of it all.
  • Center Left
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    Judy, Welcome. I hope you visit often and share your ideas and thoughts.
  • Independent
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    The same here, welcome!
  • Independent
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    It should be very clear, especially with the Muslim "ban" that the guy lacks "feelings" except if it concerns himself. The analyses of his "sick" mind (as described above) is absolute correct. My question is why don't the Democrat launch this article in an big way????? Schmidt can't you sent that article to Schumer or the DNC.
  • Center Left
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    There are about 6 decent Democratic politicians left. Dysfunctional on display. Expect nothing. That's what they're delivering. Sad. Perhaps once Mr. Obama has written his book he will become a consultant.
  • Independent
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    Yesterday Pelosi tried to give an speech; the microphone nor the amplifiers worked (sabotaged by the GOP???) Thus fantastic. Then Warren held an strong speech, which MSNBC cut of after a few minutes. For Trump of course they give the whole speech in full detail, but not for an Democrat of course. Hypocrites!!!
  • Independent
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    Trump Takes Propecia, A Hair-Loss Drug Associated With Mental Confusion, Impotence

    Everything you need to know about the new disclosure.

    In a snicker-worthy disclosure by President Donald Trump’s longtime personal physician, readers of The New York Times learned Thursday that the leader of the free world takes a small daily dose of the drug finasteride ? otherwise known as Propecia ? which is used to treat male-pattern baldness.

    The revelation by Dr. Harold N. Bornstein that the president uses a prostate-related drug to grow scalp hair was not previously known publicly, according to the Times story, and appears to explain why Trump has a very low level of prostate specific antigen, or PSA, a marker sometimes used to diagnose prostate cancer. The newspaper said it had four telephone conversations with Bornstein, whose office is in Manhattan, about Trump’s overall health.

    Bornstein, 69, said he takes finasteride himself and credited it with helping maintain his own shoulder-length hair. “[Trump] has all his hair,” Bornstein said. “I have all my hair.”

    Bornstein, who said he hasn’t seen Trump since his ascension to the presidency, first came on the public radar in December 2015, when he released a four-paragraph letter extolling Trump’s health.

    “If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency,” Bornstein wrote. Trump, 70, is also the oldest person ever elected to the presidency. Eight months after writing the letter, Bornstein said he dashed it off in five minutes while a Trump limousine waited for him to finish.

    Of course, with the revelation that Trump is taking finasteride, many rushed to warn of possible side effects ? including mental confusion and permanent sexual dysfunction.

    Punchlines aside, the safety of the drug has been challenged.

    “The FDA-approved pill has been called into question, with emerging research and a slew of lawsuits suggesting that finasteride may be more dangerous than previously believed,” reported Men’s Journal. “Users report that its side effects — inability to orgasm, painful erections, chronic depression, insomnia, brain fog, and suicidal thoughts — can last long after patients stop taking the pill.”

    Since 2011, at least 1,245 lawsuits have been filed against Propecia’s manufacturer, Merck, alleging that the company didn’t sufficiently warn users of sexual and cognitive side effects. Patients and physicians reportedly call the effects “Post-Finasteride Syndrome” because, they say, symptoms often persist after discontinuing the drug. The National Institutes of Health has added PFS to its rare-diseases database. Merck told Men’s Journal the the company “stands behind the demonstrated safety and efficacy profile of Propecia.”

    And of course, the disclosure about the president taking Propecia spurred many to ask: What other drugs does he take? The Washington Post noted that Trump had multiple opportunities to mention his Propecia use, but didn’t.

    I like to add an patient's experience:

    DO NOT EVEN TRY THIS DRUG: It is incredibly unbelievable that a drug exists and is legal that can crash one's endocrine system after ONLY 11 pills. I realize that my case is rare, but I am currently living a life more horrible than anything I could have ever imagined. Imagine, after trying a hair loss drug, being forced to live on this Earth WITHOUT being able to enjoy it. This drug, after it crashes your endocrine system, can leave you debilitated with unimaginable sexual, mental and physical symptoms. It can literally destroy your life. I was so ignorant to even try this drug, given how it rapidly deteriorated a body and mind I worked 22 years to develop in 11 days. By day 6 I started developing sexual side effects and was too ignorant stop it that I continued taking it for 5 more days as it completely cleaned out my system. After I was brought to my lowest point I had a brief recovery period for another 10 days where I felt great and returned to normal, only crashing down to get even WORSE symptoms that I am permanently left with in the form of an untreatable secondary hypogonadism. Yes, this drug, if it crashes your system, will make you IMMUNE to the vital male hormone DHT that is needed for normal functioning. Yes, I realize that my case of rapidly developing side effects is rare, but it CAN happen to you no matter how small the chance. I thought I was invincible but you CANNOT control what happens to your body! THESE EFFECTS ARE REAL. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote: There are about 6 decent Democratic politicians left. Dysfunctional on display. Expect nothing. That's what they're delivering. Sad. Perhaps once Mr. Obama has written his book he will become a consultant.

    By default the Democratic position is the country is in great shape with lots of good paying jobs. The Democratic establishment is paralyzed because they cannot counter Trump without admitting 8 years of Obama did nothing. Pointing to technical but minor advancements citing incrementalism, compromise and moderation didn't work and wont work. Trump countered criticism for repealing Obama Care with an impossible republican statement "Insurance for everybody". Waiting in the wings are some antipopulist horror stories of $2000 penalties for people that didn't get insurance. I know a lot of these people and they are mostly selfemployed and the process was overwhelming for them. It is going to be hard to villafy these people into thinking they deserve a penalty. It was a true lapse of judgement to try and force people that can't afford insurance by threatening them with an IRS administered fine. Upper middle class and up can absorb costs. Lower class will have their standard of living reduced. Lower class self employed are facing severe problems. The Democratic Party is facing radical problems. The upper class Democratics can whether the problem and subsist as critics of Trump. The people that need help will be abandoned. I can see the Democratic Party taking the position of a minority power and not trying to help or improve.

  • Independent
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    Sorry the subject was???.........................
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Sorry the subject was???.........................
    I think it was propecia law suits or Pelosi's bad speakers. Have to go back and check.
  • Center Left
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    What a horrible drastically exaggerated comb over. He's a mess but their only requirements were White and with a penis. Sadly that's all they asked for. We will regret this fiasco for decades.