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Trump and Obama's ambassadors

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    New York Times, MSN News: In Break With Past, Obama Ambassadors Are Told to Quit Posts by Inauguration Day

    "President-elect Donald J. Trump’s transition staff has issued a blanket edict requiring politically appointed ambassadors to leave their overseas posts by Inauguration Day, according to several American diplomats familiar with the plan, breaking with decades of precedent by declining to provide even the briefest of grace periods."

    Trump's rather sudden actions have put several ambassadors with children in the difficult position of having to "get out quickly". "No exceptions" Trump's transition team says. Countries like Germany, France and Canada will potentially be without Senate-confirmed envoys for months.

    "Derek Shearer, a professor of diplomacy at Occidental College who is a former United States ambassador to Finland, said it was difficult to see a rationale for the decision. “It feels like there’s an element just of spite and payback in it,” he said. “I don’t see a higher policy motive.”"

    Trump is taking a hard line. It seems consistent with his plan to repeal every single executive action that President Obama has made in his presidency; as such he also wants no Obama appointees in any diplomatic posts from Day 1 of his presidency, no matter what hardships are incurred. In my opinion it's kind of like cleansing the government of any smell of the black president. Spite? Racism?

    It will be interesting to see Trump's actions with respect to moving into the White House, the living quarters of a black family for the past eight years. For example, will Donald and Melania sleep in the same bed occupied by Obama and Michelle? Will Trump fire much of the White House staff that keeps it running sensing a certain loyalty to the Obama family?

    Melania Trump has chosen to stay in New York for the time being. Maybe Donald will stay in his Washington DC hotel while he orders remodeling (fumigation?) of the White House living quarters.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt, this guy will only dig an deeper hole for himself; sure he wants to "white wash" everything an "black" President has done that is his "white supremacy" goal. But it will bite him in the butt,because the "learning curve" for all his recruits will be an lengthy one. Thus this will only create more and more chaos. Especially in Europe, they will certainly have no longer any respect for the US and may take actions to loosen the ties with the US.

    I think the "mess" will get so huge at one moment because of this total asshole that this country will be "off the map" for quite a while.

  • Independent
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    Related to the White House; sure he will transfer that to his liking. I only hope that there is an strict "budget" allowance to do that. But also that I doubt even that, looking at the "no rules" or qualification to become President he likely will make it "gold" plated like in his Trump Tower. This guy should have been in an mental institute instead of the White House.
  • Independent
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    A bit of the subject, but I like to mention it anyway. Trump wants to put tariffs on Toyota cars made in Mexico, because the are building an new plant there for the Corrola's. The weird thing is it is an Japanese company, so I think they can built cars wherever they want. So if you import an Mercedes , which is not built here either you don't pay an tariff???

    Weird thinking indeed; yes he will pick fights with everyone; the end result is certainly not more jobs here. But only more expensive cars. I doubt if GM or Ford will benefit from it. Chrysler is also an "import" now because it is owned by Fiat. Thus put tariffs on them; that will be fun!!! Trump is nuts, that is for sure.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    We are constantly surprised by Trump's tweets and antics. "Incredulous" is the word I use when I see him bullying or threatening again or making statements that defy basic knowledge. He got the nomination by bullying and lying, so don't look for him to change. While his apparent ignorance on such subjects as trade is almost laughable, he has a bunch of supporters who believe his every word.

    But with respect to ambassadors, I just wonder if he will staff them with cronies who have zero knowledge of international diplomacy.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: But with respect to ambassadors, I just wonder if he will staff them with cronies who have zero knowledge of international diplomacy.

    Would you expect anything else?!

    The sad thing is his supporters will find absolutely nothing wrong with it if he does so. As he said during the campaign - he can shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose a supporter.

  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote: But with respect to ambassadors, I just wonder if he will staff them with cronies who have zero knowledge of international diplomacy.

    Would you expect anything else?!

    The sad thing is his supporters will find absolutely nothing wrong with it if he does so. As he said during the campaign - he can shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose a supporter.

    Yes Jared, like I said it will take lots of time to get these guys worked in. The point is if they are the Trump types, then in no time we will have more fights internationally then he ever can handle. I'm quit sure that a lot of countries will distance themselves from the US just because of you don't know what he "tweets" one day or the next. They call him an"lunatic" and in Dutch " een war hooft" ( does not mean "war" , but an mixed up "head")
  • Center Left
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    I hate this president elect. I hate all he is doing from top to bottom. I am disgusted he can spew his pathetic ways into the white house which if it wasn't previously named, it would be on Jan. 20. We're just starting the journey that will be just like the swirling of water in a toilet flush.
  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote: I hate this president elect. I hate all he is doing from top to bottom. I am disgusted he can spew his pathetic ways into the white house which if it wasn't previously named, it would be on Jan. 20. We're just starting the journey that will be just like the swirling of water in a toilet flush.
    Yes Tony the same here; to tell you the truth, I rather see the toilet water swirling than his ugly ego head on TV.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    The vast majority of the people that Trump has picked for various positions are NOT qualified for the positions that they get confirmed for. Surprisingly, Trump just picked an ambassador for Saudi Arabia who actually appears to be qualified. Not surprisingly, he is a retired general, which is a group of people really likes

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/trump-finally-appoints-ambassador-saudi-arabia-181114060006689.html

  • Liberal Democrat
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    This is qualifications for an important ambassadorship? A military man? John Abizaid is a retired four-star army general of Lebanese Christian descent and is "prominent for his stint as the longest-chief of US Central Command - of which the Middle East is part - starting shortly after the Iraq war in 2003 all the way through to 2007."

    Abizaid is a West Point graduate and also Harvard University graduate with a Master of Arts in Middle Eastern Studies. His thesis focused on Saudi Arabia's weapons procurement policy. The fact that he speaks Arabic is a definite plus.

    I can appreciate that he has the knowledge and experience to do the job. However, since we are such a seller of military arms to Saudi Arabia, his expertise in Saudi weapons procurement policy may be the only reason he was chosen. My biggest concern is that he'll look at everything from a one dimensional military perspective (i.e. selling arms) when we could better use a more rounded civilian in the post.

    But perhaps he is an improvement from the de facto ambassador, Jared Kushner.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Trump just named a woman with no prior diplomatic experience to be ambassador to South Africa.

    Her connection to Trump?

    She is a handbag designer who has habitually stiffed her employees, and she happens to be a member of the Mar-a- Lago golf club. Trump has granted administrative roles to other Mar-a-Lago members, naming friend (and huge supporter) Robin Bernstein as ambassador to the Dominican Republic last year. Bernstein was confirmed in July. Three other Mar-a-Lago insiders have been instrumental in shaping the Trump administration’s Veterans Affairs policies, ProPublica reported in August.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-south-african-ambassador-mar-a-lago-lana-marks_us_5bed856de4b0dbb7ea682f1c?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&utm_source=politics_fb§ion=politics&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0d79_1opnCXBKFLXC0rbJlIGQ15IQ4z6aMTz7ilsSu71snlyrX65nWpgI

    If you had to pick America's most corrupt president, Trump would win hands down.

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/presidents-with-corrupt-cabinets-and-how-donald-trump-compares.html/