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Trump Voters Will be Hit Hardest After Obamacare Repeal

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    pr Wrote: We shall see if you would still like to lose in four years - I doubt it.

    As I said - if we have to sink to the level of having to pander to white nationalists and sexists then I would definitely prefer to lose. If American voters are that hateful then let them continue to make their lives worse by electing people who fan the flames of their ignorance and hatred only to get elected but then forget about them as soon as they are in office.

    We're doing fine out here in our west coast bubble where we actually respect one another and have thriving economies at the same time. If the rest of the country had the same values as Washington, Oregon, and California then it would be a better place.

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    "If the rest of the country had the same values"

    Thirty years of right wing winner take all, master of your own destiny and selfishnism has destroyed the cooperative teamwork character from WWII. Have you noticed a softening in any of Trump's rhetoric? Remember, he is a say anything to win the day!

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Thirty years of right wing winner take all, master of your own destiny and selfishnism has destroyed the cooperative teamwork character from WWII. Have you noticed a softening in any of Trump's rhetoric? Remember, he is a say anything to win the day!

    We're getting off topic, but you're whitewashing post WWII America just a wee bit. No pun intended.

    People of color and many women would have a very different opinion about the whole "cooperative teamwork" idea in post war America. It was easy for white men to find jobs back then because the United States didn't have to spend decades rebuilding a war torn continent and we had laws that made it so white men were able to get good paying jobs regardless of their qualifications.

    That's the audience Trump is pandering to when he spews his garbage about making America great again. He's pandering to the angry white voter who was used to having a leg up in society. It was easy to get a good paying job with minimal education if the government excluded women and people of color from getting them.


    Now can we please get back on the topic of what Republicans will do to your healthcare? We already have enough threads about why Trump will be the next President.

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    It's not what Trump will do - he has no opinions about anything other than his image. The people that are really deciding what will happen will just stroke his ego and play him for the fool he is. So, that begs the question who are his puppet masters? I believe it's the republican controlled congress (on domestic issues) and as they have no real plan other than repeal,which they know will not be acceptable to either side, they will propose minor tweaks and just keep putting it off to look and feel good.
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    What will republicans do with healthcare? Hard to say exactly. The odds point to repealing sections upon which the ACA stands particularly the mandate and subsidies. Anything they will try to put into place will fail such as the crossing state lines fallacy. There will be nothing written to contain costs because they can't. Basically it will end up returning to the way things were before the ACA. And that is failure writ large.
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    P.R. /Lonely, the way it will go is likely an big mess, because they just want to "repeal'it, but have nothing to offer in its place which makes sense. Their mind set is purely whatever Obama did, should be destroyed. Tinkering on it will make the mess only bigger, because they lack the knowledge to improve things. For instance they will have to retain the pharma/doctors lobby system, because they will get the kickbacks from the industry; so nothing gets cheaper anyway. So sorry to say I pity the 20 million people who signed up for Obama care. If they start tinkering with Medicare then they 'll loose in an big way in the next election. If they think they can do this "cheaper" forget it; tinkering on it will make it only more expensive.
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    Current article on this topic. In the ghetto I once saw a guy with 3 cups and something underneath. He quickly shuffled them and nearby fools lost much money. This is Trump and his tactics. Those being mesmerized are clueless and it's sad.

    nbcnews.com/business/business-news/trum...

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    "I'll remind you for the millionth time that he lost the popular vote by 3 million." Said jaredsxtn!

    Ill remind you for the millionth time squared Hllary should have won by a landslide.

    It's not Trump voters. It's the working lower class. If the mindset of jaredsxtn and Schmidt could understand that millions of people could and should have it better then there is hope. If they continue to blame the loss of an election that should have been a Democratic Landslide on a small number of voters then there is no hope. Their argument is that the economy has been good for the lower classes and there is no reason for Trump to have won the election. In jaredsxtn claiming a rerun popular victory election would have elected Hillary, he is making the assumption Trump wouldn't have campaigned differently. Trump cost 1/2 as much to win as Hillary spent twice as much to lose.

    And besides all the above, the deplorables are not political enough to go out and vote for immigration, race and sexist issues. They vote pocketbook.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    "I'll remind you for the millionth time that he lost the popular vote by 3 million." Said jaredsxtn!

    Ill remind you for the millionth time squared Hllary should have won by a landslide.

    It's not Trump voters. It's the working lower class. If the mindset of jaredsxtn and Schmidt could understand that millions of people could and should have it better then there is hope. If they continue to blame the loss of an election that should have been a Democratic Landslide on a small number of voters then there is no hope. Their argument is that the economy has been good for the lower classes and there is no reason for Trump to have won the election. In jaredsxtn claiming a rerun popular victory election would have elected Hillary, he is making the assumption Trump wouldn't have campaigned differently. Trump cost 1/2 as much to win as Hillary spent twice as much to lose.

    And besides all the above, the deplorables are not political enough to go out and vote for immigration, race and sexist issues. They vote pocketbook.

    No Chet; they don't vote, because they lack education; for them Washington is another country which they don't understand or want to understand. They love an dictator, that is the only thing which catches their attention.
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    Giving people the chance to pick a president in a country that sells 20,000,000 bottles at $20 dollars a bottle of a weight loss supplement that says you don't have to diet or exercise to lose weight if you take their pills is proof enough that the general population is controlled on how to vote.
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    So who controls the voters???

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    When is the honeymoon over ? When is he judged or criticized ? I am tired of the cowards doing nothing. There will be a public record of cabinet selection approval voting. Most should be reelected or not based on that.
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    TJ Wrote: When is the honeymoon over ? When is he judged or criticized ? I am tired of the cowards doing nothing. There will be a public record of cabinet selection approval voting. Most should be reelected or not based on that.
    Tony what "honeymoon"?; looks more like an "arranged" marriage by the "devil"
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    Getting back on topic, the House Republicans are now working on their draft in secret.

    Vox, March 2, 2017: Why House Republican are keeping their health care bill secret

    "On Wednesday, Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) revealed that the Republican leadership is keeping the latest repeal-and-replace proposal under lock and key. Literally. Ahead of its consideration by a House energy and commerce subcommittee, beginning today, the new top-secret proposal will be made available, but only in a dedicated reading room and only to certain members. Members of the committee and their staff will be allowed to come in and take a look, but copies of the bill will not be permitted to exit the room."

    No one is allowed to see the bill. Rand Paul tried to get access to the secret room but was rebuffed. There is a good reason for this secrecy. Leaked drafts tend to undermine the efforts of those working on it. Those Republicans charged with the task cannot do their work if people are looking over their shoulders and calling attention to things that won't work. So when it is finally rolled out it will be rammed through quickly, warts and all, with little time for the media to highlight flaws or Democrats to protest.

    And Donald Trump will tick off another campaign promise achieved. That's the way it works.

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Getting back on topic, the House Republicans are now working on their draft in secret.

    Vox, March 2, 2017: Why House Republican are keeping their health care bill secret

    "On Wednesday, Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) revealed that the Republican leadership is keeping the latest repeal-and-replace proposal under lock and key. Literally. Ahead of its consideration by a House energy and commerce subcommittee, beginning today, the new top-secret proposal will be made available, but only in a dedicated reading room and only to certain members. Members of the committee and their staff will be allowed to come in and take a look, but copies of the bill will not be permitted to exit the room."

    No one is allowed to see the bill. Rand Paul tried to get access to the secret room but was rebuffed. There is a good reason for this secrecy. Leaked drafts tend to undermine the efforts of those working on it. Those Republicans charged with the task cannot do their work if people are looking over their shoulders and calling attention to things that won't work. So when it is finally rolled out it will be rammed through quickly, warts and all, with little time for the media to highlight flaws or Democrats to protest.

    And Donald Trump will tick off another campaign promise achieved. That's the way it works.

    Yes Schmidt, yes that is how "dictatorships" work; nothing new, welcome to..............land