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  • Center Left
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    Today I visited the DNC web page. It asked for basic "sign up" info then asked for donations. I mistakenly thought I might get information on the direction the party was headed in. This link speaks on the topic of leadership changes. I am of the opinion that many vast changes are needed. Before you can solve a problem you have to admit there is a problem.

    thehill.com/homenews/news/309415-afl-ci...

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I'll remind you and everyone else once again that Hillary Clinton received nearly 3 million more votes than Trump.

    Why would vast changes need to be made if the Democratic candidate comfortably won the popular vote? Should the party change everything and try to pander to a minority of voters who are only important because they live in swing states?

  • Center Left
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    Governorship, Senate, Congress, and all other areas where we are losing or lost should be addressed. I want us to do better across the board. Once we have and maintain majorities, there is work to be done. I think we need the best party minds to develop a plan to proceed with. I think it would be foolish to sit idle when we're minorities in too many areas. I think our interim party leader should chose to recuse herself and move on.

  • Liberal
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I'll remind you and everyone else once again that Hillary Clinton received nearly 3 million more votes than Trump.

    Why would vast changes need to be made if the Democratic candidate comfortably won the popular vote? Should the party change everything and try to pander to a minority of voters who are only important because they live in swing states?

    Jared, your response is exactly why we are going to have Donald Trump for President for the next 4 years! You just don't seem to get it. The Democrats have failed the country, wheather you believe it or not. If they didn't fail Trump wouldn't have had a chance.
  • Independent
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    Yes P.R. like Jared said; sure just about 3 million more votes; but because of the stupid system here she lost, so she should have tuned in on that stupid system and visited those loosing States (rust belt etc.) more than Trump did. I for sure did not see her in Ft.Myers or Naples; Trump did. So indeed Jared does not get it.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Hillary lost Florida because the good people of Florida are more susceptible to being conned. Hey they re-elected Rick Scott despite all the revelations about his corruption. It didn't matter how many trips Hillary made to Florida. If they love Rick Scott they won't like Hillary. It's as simple as that. Issues don't matter in Florida anymore than they matter in Mississippi.

    Hillary spent a lot of time in Michigan and Pennsylvania but lost those states for the same reason. The voters love a conman who tells them what they want to hear. And now the coal miners in coal country are finding out that they too were conned.

    So the message I'm hearing is that the DNC needs to select people more like Trump. Bullies and bullshitters. No thanks. When that happens I leave the party.

  • Democrat
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    Perhaps the DNC relied too heavy on the urban areas to carry the day, this was the area of the country where Hilary did very well, many in the Middle States consider both the West coast and the Northeast coast to be out of touch with the "real" America and they vote accordingly, also this election cycle was one of the most divisive ones in recent memory where identity politics played a major role, even the debates , at least on the GOP side were nothing more than mud slinging and pandering to the identity politics of the moment, I also believe the media didn't help by constantly bringing out the flaws in the candidates instead of the policy being pursued, now we get the governing body that we deserved, forget about the popular vote, the Electoral Collage is where the votes really matter.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    I'll remind you and everyone else once again that Hillary Clinton received nearly 3 million more votes than Trump.

    Why would vast changes need to be made if the Democratic candidate comfortably won the popular vote? Should the party change everything and try to pander to a minority of voters who are only important because they live in swing states?

    She beat Trump by three million votes that should have been thirty million votes. The Democratic Party is in big trouble if they think all is good. Don't forget the support for Bernie. The Democratic support for Bernie. That was the warning shot and all the three million Hillary got were probably Bernie supporters. And Hillary adopted high points from Bernies campaign. If Hillary hadn't have changed from the party platform at the convention to Bernie's high points she would lost significantly.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Warning signs the economy and DNC need change.

    "Restaurant Recession Could Signal Tough Times for U.S. Economy ...

    U.S. News & World Report › articles › re...
    Jul 27, 2016 - Analysts are forecasting a "restaurant recession" in the U.S., which is bad news for America's food ..."
    Not just personal opinion. First signs of trouble.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: So the message I'm hearing is that the DNC needs to select people more like Trump. Bullies and bullshitters. No thanks. When that happens I leave the party.

    I agree with all of your sentiments, but this last paragraph is exactly what I've been thinking since the election. If the party has to resort to the lowest common denominator and pander to racists and white nationalists to win at the national scale then I am fine with being a regional party for the rest of my life.

    Oregon is doing just fine. As is Washington, California, and many other deeply blue states. We'll keep giving far more of our tax dollars to the poorer red states that hate us with a passion but wouldn't be able to survive without us. And we'll still be able to invest in new infrastructure projects and other liberal priorities.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    pr Wrote: Jared, your response is exactly why we are going to have Donald Trump for President for the next 4 years! You just don't seem to get it. The Democrats have failed the country, wheather you believe it or not. If they didn't fail Trump wouldn't have had a chance.

    I sometimes wonder if certain so called liberals are living in an alternate universe in the same way many Republicans are.

    How have the Democrats failed the country? President Obama had two years of full Democratic control. In those two years he passed healthcare reform, dug the country out of the worst recession in 80 years, and brought tens of thousands of troops home from Iraq. He also was able to confirm two young and liberal Supreme Court Justices and reshaped the Federal Courts in his image.

    Republicans won (or should I say Democrats sat on their ass) the House in 2010 and prevented any and every piece of major legislation from even being considered, let alone voted on. They also redrew the district maps that virtually guarantees a Republican dominated House through 2020 if not beyond.

    And you blame the Democrats for that?! Seriously man. That is just nuts.

    I think that every single person (young and old) needs a damn civics lesson. The willful ignorance by so many people in this country truly astounds me.

  • Independent
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    Sure Jared I can follow your reasoning; but which ever way you look at it regardless of the good things Obama did; she lost.

    I fully agree that an lot of factors played an role i.e. : "a woman", an "husband" with an past, Bernie effect, the "media" who gave Trump all the attention, Wiki leaks, the Russian "hacking", The FBI guy, the nuthead who spread the news the Obama care rates would go through the roof before the elections, the Trump "lies" about her; not visiting the country side's in the rust belt, third party candidates, Etc etc. Thus the message is clear: get an candidate who's got no "baggage" who is loved by the "media" and is seen as not an Washington "establishment insider" with guts and an clear message which is not filled with "impossible" promises. Is there anyone in the party who fits this description?

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    TJ Wrote: Governorship, Senate, Congress, and all other areas where we are losing or lost should be addressed. I want us to do better across the board.

    This has far more to do with where people live more than anything else.

    Liberals are fleeing rural towns and migrating more and more to urban cities. It's no secret that one persons vote in a city is worth far less than one persons vote in the countryside. Hell - the entire population of many red states is less than a medium size city in certain states.

    And another thing that has to be addressed is that Democrats tend to sit on their ass in off-year elections. That's why so many purple states have Republican governors and state legislatures.

    Democrats tend to forget that all politics is local. If they actually want to see real change then they need to vote in local and county elections with the same fervor they do in Presidential elections.

  • Liberal
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    Jared, the Democrats failed the country because Hillary didn't get elected. Chet is correct - she should have won by 30 million votes, not 2 ½ million. I think most, if not all, of Trumpies supporters are misinformed idiots that are easily conned. Those same people could be easily attracted to the Democrats if they tried but they didn't even really try. When you deal with dumb, underinformed, undereducated prople you have to give them a reason to want to vote for you. The Dems didn't, it's as simple as that.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    pr Wrote: Jared, the Democrats failed the country because Hillary didn't get elected. Chet is correct - she should have won by 30 million votes, not 2 ½ million. I think most, if not all, of Trumpies supporters are misinformed idiots that are easily conned. Those same people could be easily attracted to the Democrats if they tried but they didn't even really try. When you deal with dumb, underinformed, undereducated prople you have to give them a reason to want to vote for you. The Dems didn't, it's as simple as that.
    Anyone who honestly thinks that Hillary Clinton, or any Democrat for that matter, could have won by 30 million votes is a damn fool.