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  • Center Left
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    When does the next Democrat run ? If we win on Tuesday it will be in 8 years. If we lose it will be 4 years.

    So, who are the rising stars ? Obviously we have Tim Kaine. He may be potus sooner than later because there's far too much hate and far too many guns. I was wondering about the rising stars from both parties. Thoughts or ideas ? I think the young (R) gov. In South Carolina looks good. Nikki Haley.

    Others from 2016 seem like bad choices or too old to return. Rubio, Cruz, Kasich will probably try again. Dems ? Aside from Kaine I don't know who might get serious consideration. A Google search suggests Cory Booker (NJ) is only 47 years old. He may be a rising star but 8 years with a 1/2 black potus followed by a woman, followed by a black man.... Repub's might spontaneously combust. Lmao. Mike Pence seems to be in line for a shot in 4 yrs if they lose Tuesday.

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    TJ Wrote:

    When does the next Democrat run ? If we win on Tuesday it will be in 8 years. If we lose it will be 4 years.

    So, who are the rising stars ? Obviously we have Tim Kaine. He may be potus sooner than later because there's far too much hate and far too many guns. I was wondering about the rising stars from both parties. Thoughts or ideas ? I think the young (R) gov. In South Carolina looks good. Nikki Haley.

    Others from 2016 seem like bad choices or too old to return. Rubio, Cruz, Kasich will probably try again. Dems ? Aside from Kaine I don't know who might get serious consideration. A Google search suggests Cory Booker (NJ) is only 47 years old. He may be a rising star but 8 years with a 1/2 black potus followed by a woman, followed by a black man.... Repub's might spontaneously combust. Lmao. Mike Pence seems to be in line for a shot in 4 yrs if they lose Tuesday.

    T.J. you are thinking ahead; but the outcome "now" may change a lot; my guess is looking at the mess now, then you must have an huge "ego" to be able to withstand all of this during election time; if Trump looses then you can visit him in the "loony" house. So who wants this impossible job?
  • Center Left
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    Dutch, He's unlike what was ever seen. The tolerance of his garbage changed what we can or do accept. I am hopeful we never see another as ridiculous and abrasive. That led to the question - What's next ?

  • Liberal Democrat
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    TJ -- When you say "what's next?" it's really a question for the Republican Party. They have various factions that I would describe as a "marriage of convenience" that could permanently divide the party and cripple it for years to come. Remember that many of those evangelicals were once a thorn in the Democratic Party's side until they abandoned ship after Lyndon Johnson's civil rights legislation passed Congress.

    Democratic candidates to replace Hillary Clinton will emerge over the next four to eight years. The Bernie Sanders faction of the party could be a force, but if they overshoot, they could likewise split the Democratic Party. Note that two Electoral College voters from Washington State have said they will not vote for Hillary Clinton even though they are legally obliged to do so. They are the Bernie or Bust tribe and should not be taken lightly. The future of the Democratic Party will be a contest between the rigid idealism (no compromises) of the Bernie supporters and the moderate progressives (compromisers) of the long time party members like me.

  • Center Left
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    Schmidt I always have valued your input on this site. It's a big day and I'm currently hopeful. I hope your day goes well. Are you 6 or 7 hours ahead in time ? Stay tuned in. I imagine no big news for the next 9 or 10 hours. We'll see.

  • Independent
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    Let's hope an "younger" Bernie shows up; it is time for election reform as the "old" Bernie promoted. It is time we revamp an lot of things he wanted; I still think he should have won; at least then it would have been an clear win, without the e-mail crap.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Let's hope an "younger" Bernie shows up; it is time for election reform as the "old" Bernie promoted. It is time we revamp an lot of things he wanted; I still think he should have won; at least then it would have been an clear win, without the e-mail crap.
    Dutch, Cant talk about this until tommorow.
  • Center Left
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    This is what was just reported on Facebook as the Democratic parties next best options for 2020. Trust me, if this is the best ideas..... We are in trouble. What's with the idea that it needs to be a woman ?

    truthexaminer.com/2016/11/yes-its-time-...

  • Center Left
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    According to a story I just read, Joe Biden is saying that while it's not guaranteed, he expects that he will run against D. Trump in 2020. Mr. Biden is currently 74 years old. I personally hope everyone lives to be 100 and is healthy. Do we think the millennial sector is going to rush out to vote for a 78 year old man ? I hope he might consider a VP choice 20 years younger.

    addictinginfo.org/2016/12/05/joe-biden-...

  • Independent
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    Ridiculous; sorry "sleepyhead" Biden is not the right type to "win"; in 2020 you need an "fighter" like Trump, but with an "normal" brain and temper.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    If somebody in the party learns how to campaign against Trump. He has the Democratic Party against him and he has the Republican Party against him. So even a worse case scenario is possible. If he doesnt get anything done but doesn't shoot himself in the foot, then he will be a charismatic martyr. If the Democratic Party doesn't come up with a working person promise of prosperity and a platform of progressive attention to lower class standard of living then if Trump doesn't self destruct he will prevail again. I like Biden but he doesn't have an identity with acknowledging or solving lower class problems. Solving lower class problems dooesnt mean just more entitlements or give aways. It means taking hold of the financial system and making sure money stays active. The stock market had rules over a hundred years ago recognizing fair play and a level playing field.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Chet -- Until the passage of the Securities Act of 1933 (following the Great Depression) the stock market was largely unregulated (other than state blue sky laws). Your statement that "the stock market had rules over a hundred years ago recognizing fair play and a level playing field" is not supported by the facts.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt, Well, I remember reading about fair play and the telegraph. I will find supporting evidence. There have always been people with a sense of fair play and ethics. It even goes far back into ancient times with the myth or reality of "Jubilee". The ancients realized the fallacy of winner take all.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Here are a few of the early recognition of abuse in the stock market:

    Technology that made it possible to gather and share information via the telegraph, ticker, and transatlantic cable also heightened the risks in the economy. And in response, the Exchange—formally renamed the New York Stock Exchange in 1863—began requiring companies to disclose financial information, operate with more transparency, associate with local bankers, and issue annual reports. In 1886, the Exchange saw its first day where more than a million shares were traded.

    gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/econom...

    Bucket shops specializing in stocks and commodity futures flourished in the United States from the 1870s until the 1920s.[5] Edwin Lefèvre, who is believed to have been writing on behalf of Jesse Lauriston Livermore, describes the operations of bucket shops in the 1890s in detail.[6] In the United States, the traditional pseudo-brokerage bucket shops came under increasing legal assault in the early 1900s, and were effectively eliminated before the 1920s.[7]

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_shop_(stoc...

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Senator-elect Tammy Duckworth of Illinois and Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii should be President and VP of the Democratic ticket in 2020. We should run 2 female military veterans of color.

    Duckworth and Gabbard would bridge gaps between the Obama and Bernie wings, while producing a media sensation.

    I don't know how we are going to win without taking the media back from Trump and consolidating the Democratic vote.

    There's no combination on the Democratic roster that makes more sense. Biden, Kaine, Booker, and Sanders nominations simply cannot come close to the shock and awe created by a Duckworth-Gabbard ticket.

    Go big or go home. Democrats with courage win elections. We cannot be afraid to nominate two females of color in 2020. We win when we take the commercial print and air-time back by 'giving them something to talk about' other than Donald Trump.

    Duckworth is a national icon. She lost her legs in service to our country and she lives to serve and honor those who saved her life and the country that they all serve. She inspires us all to be better human beings. She does that for me. That's what Presidents should do: deserve our respect and admiration.

    Gabbard is an iconoclastic progressive Democrat with the attention of the internet. She has a high degree of appeal and media coverage across party lines due to her controversial criticism of Obama's GWOT leadership, in which she aligned with conservatives to implore the Obama administration to address 'radical islam' by name. Yet, she broke with the party to support Bernie Sanders and has continued to align with Sanders Democrats, such as with the Standing Rock crisis.

    Duckworth and Gabbard is the most exciting ticket possible for the Democrats in 2020.

    Spread the word.