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    Politico, January 17, 2016: The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter

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    Schmidt, You just don't get it and you never will because you will have to face the reality that I was right from the beginning. Being a Trump supporter has nothing to do with the people that lied to the pollsters. Being a Trump supporter has nothing to do with why he won in spite of all of the negative actions he displayed. That article had no support whatsoever for why Trump won the election in spite of the polls and his actions.
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    Let's face one fact here, Trump's charisma is that he said, and still says things in ways that GOP members only wished they could say, and get away with saying it, which was appealing to WHITE voters whom had enough of having a black man in the white house, which is probably why Trump started the birther movement, Trump won't define himself as a racist, but he is the closest thing to saying racist things that any public official has said since McConnell's one term president comment. If McConnell thought he could have gotten away with calling Obama a (N) word, he probably would have. Yeah, Trump won the electoral college vote, not the popular vote, and probably won it because he is a charismatic racist.
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    Dockadams, You are close. Trump himself had no idea of the extent of his charisma. Remember when he said he could shoot somebody on 5th Ave and not lose any supprt. The unadulterated definition of charisma is an unexplained compelling attraction. Charisma is not an amicable likable jovial beaming quality. It is an unexplained attraction. Oddly enough I cannot think of any examples in women. I have seen lots of examples in men where it has led to their downfall. Charisma allowed individuals to push boundaries because they felt no resistance. You will see that with Trump. He has an office that he has no business having. He is pushing changes that eventually will upset sensibilities. His changes are not rooted in the development of a politician. He is a kid in a candy store. He plays a good role but he does not have the reactions of a politician. If that doesn't kill us hopefully we will have learned from it. Two ways to run something. Learn the basics coming up trough the steps or buying it with no training and jumping in the drivers seat.
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    Schmidt, From your blog:

    "He's always making things up and no one holds him accountable for it.”

    Your whole blog is an explanation for clinical charisma yet you fail to see it. You cling to an adulterated incorrect conversational definition of charisma.

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    Suggestions for new DH rules: Find a new word.

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    TJ Wrote:

    Suggestions for new DH rules: Find a new word.

    Why find a new word when there is no understanding of probably the most important word in the world. Pretty shallow TJ.
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    Schmidt said:

    "Chet -- I'll admit that some people like you might find him charismatic...like when he tells Megyn Kelly that she has "blood coming out of her whatever" or so charismatically referring to Carly Fiorina: 'Look at that face!'"

    Juscurios but what is your explanation for the above. I have never made one derogatory statement about anybody's appearance or supported anything that anybody said like that. Never said or alluded to or given any reason to associate myself with anything like the Kelly statement.

    PS: I notice you seem to be showing support forTrump's "successful" campaign.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Schmidt, Look at this very thread how I predicted Trump could win. And the negative flak I got. Jaredsxtn said I was from an alternate universe. But I explained it and I was dead on. Charisma. People even lied to pollsters they were so embarrassed to say they were supporting Trump but they were supporting Trump. They lied because of charisma. I said it before it was revealed.

    You were right in your prediction that he would win, even though he lost the popular vote by three million. But no one will ever know exactly why he won and I think insisting that it was because of his charisma is a bit hyperbolic.

    For starters, Clinton still won the damn popular vote by three million votes. So if you were to be taken literally then Clinton has more charisma than Donald because three million more people voted for her.

    Trump won for various reasons - an outdated system that gives rural white people more power than urban voters, many voters (in those same rural white areas) belief that a woman isn't up to the task of being President, American voters history of not allowing one party to control the Presidency for too long, just to name a few.

    I don't think Donald voters voted for him because of his charisma; I think they voted for him for a multitude of reasons. Some were understandable - tax cuts, deregulation, etc. Others were for nefarious reasons - sexism, racism (how in the world can we have a woman after a black guy?!), bigotry, homophobia, etc.

    The voters in the latter group likely don't even know the definition of charisma, let alone vote because of it.

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    Chet -- Long before Donald Trump came on the political scene, I also made reference to Dr. Bob Altemeyer's acclaimed online book, The Authoritarians. Dr. Altemeyer now has a website called The Authoritarians, in which his lead article published on July 18, 2016, Donald Trump and Authoritarian Followers gives an insight into the people who are Trump supporters. I referenced it before in this website. As Altemeyer writes,

    "It’s been noted that if 25% of the American population is always ready to vote for a dictator, that’s half-way to a majority. If the “right” kind of crisis comes along, it could create enough newly panicked citizens to vote a tyrant into office who would overthrow the Constitution, the rule of law, you name it."

    You can call it whatever you like...charisma, charm, infatuation, allure, magnetism, or something else, but it is a fact that certain people, the authoritarian followers, are indeed attracted to Trump's political incorrectness. Many of them have worldviews similar to Trump when it comes to Muslims, women, different races, and ethnicities...the bigots of this world.

    That includes that guy at the Trump rally in Florida who has a cardboard cutout of Trump that he salutes every morning when he gets out of bed. That guy didn't say if it was a traditional salute or an arm out salute, Nazi style. Yeah, that guy might say Trump has charisma too.

    Then there are the Christian right evangelicals who voted overwhelmingly for him, not because he had any charismatic messiah like qualities but simply because he chose Mike Pence as his running mate and promised also to select a Supreme Court judge who will overthrow Roe v. Wade. Simple as that.

    And when journalists go into the Rust Belt to check on why they voted for Trump, you'll get another reason from the angry white voters who feel society is changing too fast and leaving them behind:

    Washington Post: Here’s the real reason Rust Belt cities and towns voted for Trump

    Rounding out those demographics you'll find the corporate "Jeb Bush" Republicans and the other millionaires and billionaires who have nothing but disdain for Trump and his antics, but continue to enable him in order to get their own agenda passed while they enjoy a majority in both houses of Congress and can control the president's vote because he is so ignorant of the nuances of legislation.

    Finally, there were the tribal Republicans and Rednecks "who ain't going to vote for no fuckin' liberal no how" no matter how much they disagree with Trump. Add to that the Hillary haters including some Bernie Sanders supporters who switched parties and voted for Trump because of hate for Hillary...or didn't vote at all.

    Altemeyer's sums them all up in one paragraph. His views reflect the views of many other professionals in his field:

    "I don’t think you can change the minds of many Trump supporters. Winning fact-driven discussions about the man and the issues will likely make them more defensive. Their connection with their leader is not rational but emotional. It’s based on fear that he fans and anger that he channels. The ideas in the campaign just float around in the Atmosphere of Indifference, quite ignored by his followers. That’s why Trump can contradict himself so often, and say so many outrageous things, with no effect on his followers’ support. He is likely more vulnerable to emotional backlash among his followers when he does something horrendous than to intellectual rejection when he lies or says something stupid."

    As far as "charisma" is concerned, I certainly do understand what it looks like. Barack and Michelle Obama have it...that certain magnetism that for some of us resonates as they walk into a room or on the stage. Now I also will admit that, "charisma" is in the eyes of the beholder. Some people like Ted Nugent see the Obama as a "Chicago communist-raised, communist-educated, communist-nurtured subhuman mongrel." So no, for Nugent and his ilk, Obama doesn't have charisma and neither does Michelle. Just browse the many comments about both of them over the past eight years and you'll find some of the most hateful comments ever written about a president.

    Some of those same people will treat Trump like he is a messiah. He can indeed shoot someone, and they'll still support him. Thankfully they are a small minority of Americans.

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    "Now I also will admit that, "charisma" is in the eyes of the beholder. Some people like Ted Nugent see the Obama as a "Chicago communist-raised, communist-educated, communist-nurtured subhuman mongrel."

    That's all there is to it.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Schmidt, Look at this very thread how I predicted Trump could win. And the negative flak I got. Jaredsxtn said I was from an alternate universe. But I explained it and I was dead on. Charisma. People even lied to pollsters they were so embarrassed to say they were supporting Trump but they were supporting Trump. They lied because of charisma. I said it before it was revealed.

    You were right in your prediction that he would win, even though he lost the popular vote by three million. But no one will ever know exactly why he won and I think insisting that it was because of his charisma is a bit hyperbolic.

    For starters, Clinton still won the damn popular vote by three million votes. So if you were to be taken literally then Clinton has more charisma than Donald because three million more people voted for her.

    Trump won for various reasons - an outdated system that gives rural white people more power than urban voters, many voters (in those same rural white areas) belief that a woman isn't up to the task of being President, American voters history of not allowing one party to control the Presidency for too long, just to name a few.

    I don't think Donald voters voted for him because of his charisma; I think they voted for him for a multitude of reasons. Some were understandable - tax cuts, deregulation, etc. Others were for nefarious reasons - sexism, racism (how in the world can we have a woman after a black guy?!), bigotry, homophobia, etc.

    The voters in the latter group likely don't even know the definition of charisma, let alone vote because of it.

    What you ignored/missed is the fact that it looked like he was an easy beat from the start. You said Barney could beat him. That is when I was explaining the power of charisma. How people would lie about supporting him because he was such a jerk but they couldn't help it because of charisma. It is what put obvious despicable people in power. And you of all people who likes to be in the know should know about it.

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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: What you ignored/missed is the fact that it looked like he was an easy beat from the start. You said Barney could beat him. That is when I was explaining the power of charisma. How people would lie about supporting him because he was such a jerk but they couldn't help it because of charisma. It is what put obvious despicable people in power. And you of all people who likes to be in the know should know about it.

    No, many (not all) of Donald's supporters couldn't help it because they are racist, homophobic, sexist, and downright deplorable people. They will never admit that they are racist, homophobic, sexist, or deplorable because it's no longer politically acceptable to admit that you're a terrible person, but that doesn't mean they aren't terrible people. He appealed to their worst traits and they loved it that a politician finally came around and reaffirmed their backwards ideologies.

    I will remind you for the millionth time - three million more people voted for Hillary Clinton. Donald didn't win because he was charismatic; Donald won because we have a backwards voting system that allows a handful of rural white people who don't represent the majority of our citizens to overrule the will of the people.

    You can call that charisma and continue to pat yourself on the back for predicting that he will win (albeit not in a landslide as you predicted), but I call it a shitty way to choose our President.

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    Very good synopsis Jared, you hit a homer.
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    Jared,you said an"handful" of "white people". I would like to correct that. How about 40% of the population who are uneducated and mostly living inland, go bravely to church, who indoctrinates them; seldom ever left this country and love their guns. I've never seen more "hardheaded conservative" thinking than in this country; I guess they are stuck in the 1800's, except with their cellphones and guns.