Forum Thread

V.P townhall show tonight

Reply to ThreadDisplaying 9 Posts
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    The RNC posted a new add about Kaine defending murderers and being against the death penalty. Wow. Is this an civilized country or just barbaric as ISIS? Under Trump we certainly maintain the death penalty as well waterboarding or worse.

    (In Europe the death penalty does not exist for ages)

    I just wonder if this subject will come up tonight. Anyway both candidates are "super" Christian (Catholics) ; I hate to say both are, because of that they are not very progressive or advanced in their thinking; religion always stands in the way of an open mind or advanced thinking.

    Both candidates have handicaps: Kaine wanted to become an "priest" and was an missionary in places where the Catholic Spaniards murdered all the Maya's who did not wanted to convert to become Catholics. Pence, he of course is an anti LGBT figure as he has proven such in Indiana. So both candidates are "indoctrinated" church idiots. But yeah, why Trump and Hillary elected these guys is an miracle to me. Both are unsuited for the job.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
    Democrat
    Portland, OR
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Dutch Wrote: Both are unsuited for the job.

    I hate to break it to you Dutch, but a lot of people are religious. Not just in America, but throughout the world.

    Lumping Tim Kaine and Mike Pence together is ludicrous. Kaine has spent his entire life trying to help people while Pence has spent his entire life trying to force his religious dogma down peoples throats.

    Kaine has a 100% rating from Planned parenthood while Pence has a 0% rating. Kaine has a 100% rating from NARAL while Pence has a 0% rating. I can go on and on and on.


    If you are waiting for an openly atheist politician to win the Presidency then you may want to pay the $200,000 plus to freeze yourself in a cryonic chamber after you die. Maybe one will come around in my lifetime, but I'm not banking on it.

    I am someone who just doesn't care what deity a politician (or anyone else) believes in so long as they don't try to force me to subscribe to their beliefs. Why do you care what someone else believes in? Does someone believing in a God make you so angry that you can't sleep at night?

    I'm an atheist and actually subscribe to the literal definition of atheism, which is that I don't believe in a deity. That's it. I don't try to convince anyone else that there is no deity because I genuinely don't care what other people believe in.

    I live by the motto of "just don't be a dick." If someone needs to believe in a higher power to not be a dick then I'm A-OK with it.


    Senator Kaine may be a devout Catholic, but he has never once shown that his faith is what drives his votes. I challenge you to show me one instance throughout his tenure as mayor of Richmond, Lieutenant Governor, Governor, or U.S. Senator where he tried to force his religious beliefs onto anyone else.

    Pence is the exact opposite. He has openly governed in a way that forces his religious beliefs down his constituents throats whether they like it or not.

    Suggesting that they are equals just isn't based in reality.

    I get it. You don't like religion. But a lot of people believe in a higher power and calling them all flag waiving idiots isn't going to make them stop believe in one.

  • Center Left
    Independent
    Central, FL
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Freedom to choose if you want a religion. That's American. Defending people. ..... Sounds lawyer'ish. Lots of that in America. I truly hope Kaine does really well tonight. I think Pence is a waste of skin and space.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
    Democrat
    Portland, OR
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    TJ Wrote: Freedom to choose if you want a religion. That's American. Defending people. ..... Sounds lawyer'ish. Lots of that in America. I truly hope Kaine does really well tonight. I think Pence is a waste of skin and space.

    I am confident that he will do well. Senator Kaine was the safest choice Secretary Clinton could have made. He has a strong command of the issues, is bilingual, and could easily take over as President if Hillary Clinton became incapacitated.

    Pence, on the other hand, is the scariest VP choice since Senator McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate. He is a culture warrior who wants to shove his beliefs down everyone's throats. He might smile when he's doing it, but serial killers also smile when they are torturing someone to death.

  • Center Left
    Independent
    Central, FL
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    I agree with you. I wouldn't even want Pence as a neighbor. He's just bad on 8 levels. Hopefully he'll be proven to be unqualified and unlikable as well.

    I think this country is unstable and filled with hate. Therefore I see an enhanced sense of importance to tonight's event. Unfortunately I have less faith in normalcy and routine. This is a vital time and common sense is not trending currently. I hope very much that people don't make assumptions right now. After Nov. Elections, hopefully a breath can be taken and normalcy might revisit this country.

  • Center Left
    Independent
    Central, FL
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Always curious why no opinions or replies after the event. Trying to develop a thought ?
  • Liberal Democrat
    Democrat
    Colorado Springs, CO
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    The bottom line is that if you are a facts/issues guy, then Kaine won. If you are into cool emotions, then Pence won. Kaine kept trying to pin Trump's outrageous past statements onto Pence to defend. Pence just shook his head.

    If you are a religious right person, then you liked Pence's statement on protecting the unborn. If you believe women should have a right to choose, then you really liked Kaine's statement about defending Rov v Wade.. Other than that Pence was full of shit.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    I did not look at this child's play; both are unsuited for the job. ( I hate to say this because if they have to act as President in case of the President being killed or something, then I think they don't qualify) Hillary should have chosen Bernie or Warren; but they probably were too smart for her. Anyway her "husband" helps a lot; he made an "beautiful" smart statement: He did call "Obama Care the craziest thing in the world" Thus the help which Obama gave on her campaign may be watering down with this cheap shot. Immediately Trump jumped onto that statement and said Bill is absolutely correct etc etc. Sure, I guess Bill should visit an "schrink" he's getting senile. If I was Hillary , I would hit him with her handbag (with an brick in it) on the head.
  • Liberal Democrat
    Democrat
    Colorado Springs, CO
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        

    On the debate topic, "that Mexican thing" spoken by Pence has lit up the Twitter world. Here's the full context:

    “When Donald Trump says women should be punished, that Mexicans are rapists and criminals, or John McCain’s not a hero, he is showing you who he is,” Mr. Kaine said, after repeated efforts during the 90-minute debate to try and persuade Mr. Pence to explain or defend Donald J. Trump’s past comments about immigrants.

    “Senator, you’ve whipped out that Mexican thing again,” Mr. Pence replied, according to the transcript. “He — look ...”

    “Can you defend it?” Mr. Kaine said.

    “There are criminal aliens in this country, Tim, who have come into this country illegally who are perpetrating violence and taking American lives,” Mr. Pence said.

    “You want to — you want to use a big broad brush against Mexicans on that?” Mr. Kaine countered.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    Google the words, "that Mexican thing"...or, "whipped out that Mexican thing" and you'll be treated to numerous tweets mocking Pence, some humorous depending on how your mind works. Here's an example if you need help:

    "All I heard was Pence talking about spending time on his knees and "whipping out the Mexican thing."?