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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Stephanie McCrummen, Washington Post, October 1, 2016: ‘Finally. Someone who thinks like me.’

    I am one that hates stereotyping Americans into buckets because of the diversity of our worldviews driven by our DNA, our parents beliefs and our communities, which taken together is a sort of tribalism. It has been particularly difficult for me to understand the mentality of the Trump supporter, and why certain middle class and poor people are so drawn to him. The above article by Stephanie McCrummen I think stereotypes a typical Trump supporter. I do not say that in a derogatory sense. The story is what it is -- an honest story about one very strong Trump supporters named Melanie Austin. I try not judge her and look down on her, but oh how my brain is so wired differently than hers.

    There are many Americans like Melanie Austin to varying degrees....some more extreme than others. But Melanie Austin does fit the stereotype of Trump's many supporters who live in a different reality world. When you put that multiplier on it, it's kind of scary. She is not alone. She is just one of millions.

    You read the article. You will be hooked on it very quickly.

    Opinions?

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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Stephanie McCrummen, Washington Post, October 1, 2016: ‘Finally. Someone who thinks like me.’

    I am one that hates stereotyping Americans into buckets because of the diversity of our worldviews driven by our DNA, our parents beliefs and our communities, which taken together is a sort of tribalism. It has been particularly difficult for me to understand the mentality of the Trump supporter, and why certain middle class and poor people are so drawn to him. The above article by Stephanie McCrummen I think stereotypes a typical Trump supporter. I do not say that in a derogatory sense. The story is what it is -- an honest story about one very strong Trump supporters named Melanie Austin. I try not judge her and look down on her, but oh how my brain is so wired differently than hers.

    There are many Americans like Melanie Austin to varying degrees....some more extreme than others. But Melanie Austin does fit the stereotype of Trump's many supporters who live in a different reality world. When you put that multiplier on it, it's kind of scary. She is not alone. She is just one of millions.

    You read the article. You will be hooked on it very quickly.

    Opinions?

    Schmidt yes that is what you get in an country that is pure "capitalistic" and real world "education" is lacking. Ask Bernie.
  • Liberal
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    I tried to read this whole article but I was ready to puke even after just scanning through it. This is an example of the true "Deplorable's" that Hillary was speaking about.

    Her brain may very well be wired differently but more likely she is just an ignorant, hate filled loser in life who has been captivated by the likes of Trump. This woman, and others like her, will never be productive, good citizens because they don't have the ability to reason or think for themselves. They need a charismatic personality like Trump (or Hitler) to lead them through life because they have no sense of reality.

    Unfortunately this country has vast numbers of this sort and they have found a new voice in the hate filled alt right wing collection of American losers that call themselves "Patriots".

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    pr Wrote:

    I tried to read this whole article but I was ready to puke even after just scanning through it. This is an example of the true "Deplorable's" that Hillary was speaking about.

    Her brain may very well be wired differently but more likely she is just an ignorant, hate filled loser in life who has been captivated by the likes of Trump. This woman, and others like her, will never be productive, good citizens because they don't have the ability to reason or think for themselves. They need a charismatic personality like Trump (or Hitler) to lead them through life because they have no sense of reality.

    Unfortunately this country has vast numbers of this sort and they have found a new voice in the hate filled alt right wing collection of American losers that call themselves "Patriots".

    Yes P.R. my guess is that an country which is run pure for the "rich" and keeps the lower classes uneducated, then you get the same situation as in the Robin Hood times. Keep them dumb, then you can use them as slaves or for other purposes. If you educate them they may realize that they have been "used" all the time to make only a few rich. Sorry to say Constitutions or not, the system only works for the well to do. That is the American way. I'm sorry but I don't think that things will change very much with either candidate; the "deplorable" mentality is cut in stone; they don't know better.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Excellent Schmidt, And I am going to use your article to teach you something. If you had read my post about the coal community people you would see that is who I described. And like I told jsredsxtn, poor people are not rich people without money. They are a certain type of personality. That is why I told you what Hillary's campaign has to do to get through to them. Common sense, objectivity, open mindedness does not exist in that world. That is why there are family feuds existing there today and for years past. And what you see in the article is just the tip. The article makes the mistake of portraying the people as an anomally. Those are real people and that is life. Opioids, plasma clinics and methadone clinics are the life they live. They adore Trump and if he walked in on them they would go nuts with adoration, but if he pushed on of their buttons they would **** him up. That is why in the party bus thread I said I could care less about people voting unless they voted a straight Democratic ticket. Dutch knows about people.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote:

    Stephanie McCrummen, Washington Post, October 1, 2016: ‘Finally. Someone who thinks like me.’

    I am one that hates stereotyping Americans into buckets because of the diversity of our worldviews driven by our DNA, our parents beliefs and our communities, which taken together is a sort of tribalism. It has been particularly difficult for me to understand the mentality of the Trump supporter, and why certain middle class and poor people are so drawn to him. The above article by Stephanie McCrummen I think stereotypes a typical Trump supporter. I do not say that in a derogatory sense. The story is what it is -- an honest story about one very strong Trump supporters named Melanie Austin. I try not judge her and look down on her, but oh how my brain is so wired differently than hers.

    There are many Americans like Melanie Austin to varying degrees....some more extreme than others. But Melanie Austin does fit the stereotype of Trump's many supporters who live in a different reality world. When you put that multiplier on it, it's kind of scary. She is not alone. She is just one of millions.

    You read the article. You will be hooked on it very quickly.

    Opinions?

    Schmidt yes that is what you get in an country that is pure "capitalistic" and real world "education" is lacking. Ask Bernie.

    Dutch -- I would disagree with you that our country is "pure capitalistic". Our country is certainly more capitalistic than many countries in Europe, but not by much. We also have many successful social programs that enhance our society, the same as Europe. Of course we don't have universal health care yet, but what Melaine Austin is ranting about is not health care but government in general -- who taught her to believe all those insane conspiracy theories about how bad our government is?

    Have certain demographic and geographic groups in America fallen by the wayside? Yes, but this is not a failure of our education system unless you want to say that education is a state of mind that begins in the home. The types of things that Melaine Austin talks about in her rant about our government and leaders are not taught or learned in our public schools. The many Trump voters did not learn their hate in schools. Rather it's a product of their upbringing, their religious beliefs, the community tribalism in which they live, and politicians and the media assigning blame for their own economic gain.

    Much of her rhetoric borders on neofascist beliefs which rise out of economic conditions but are fueled by racism and immigration polices. And the United States is not alone. Take a look at this New York Times article:

    How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right?

    "Amid a migrant crisis, sluggish economic growth and growing disillusionment with the European Union, right-wing parties in a growing number of European countries have made electoral gains. The right-wing parties included below [see charts in article] range across a wide policy spectrum, from populist and nationalist to far-right neofascist".

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Capitalism and economies are dying. We are migrating toward feudalism.
  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote:

    Stephanie McCrummen, Washington Post, October 1, 2016: ‘Finally. Someone who thinks like me.’

    I am one that hates stereotyping Americans into buckets because of the diversity of our worldviews driven by our DNA, our parents beliefs and our communities, which taken together is a sort of tribalism. It has been particularly difficult for me to understand the mentality of the Trump supporter, and why certain middle class and poor people are so drawn to him. The above article by Stephanie McCrummen I think stereotypes a typical Trump supporter. I do not say that in a derogatory sense. The story is what it is -- an honest story about one very strong Trump supporters named Melanie Austin. I try not judge her and look down on her, but oh how my brain is so wired differently than hers.

    There are many Americans like Melanie Austin to varying degrees....some more extreme than others. But Melanie Austin does fit the stereotype of Trump's many supporters who live in a different reality world. When you put that multiplier on it, it's kind of scary. She is not alone. She is just one of millions.

    You read the article. You will be hooked on it very quickly.

    Opinions?

    Schmidt yes that is what you get in an country that is pure "capitalistic" and real world "education" is lacking. Ask Bernie.

    Dutch -- I would disagree with you that our country is "pure capitalistic". Our country is certainly more capitalistic than many countries in Europe, but not by much. We also have many successful social programs that enhance our society, the same as Europe. Of course we don't have universal health care yet, but what Melaine Austin is ranting about is not health care but government in general -- who taught her to believe all those insane conspiracy theories about how bad our government is?

    Have certain demographic and geographic groups in America fallen by the wayside? Yes, but this is not a failure of our education system unless you want to say that education is a state of mind that begins in the home. The types of things that Melaine Austin talks about in her rant about our government and leaders are not taught or learned in our public schools. The many Trump voters did not learn their hate in schools. Rather it's a product of their upbringing, their religious beliefs, the community tribalism in which they live, and politicians and the media assigning blame for their own economic gain.

    Much of her rhetoric borders on neofascist beliefs which rise out of economic conditions but are fueled by racism and immigration polices. And the United States is not alone. Take a look at this New York Times article:

    How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right?

    "Amid a migrant crisis, sluggish economic growth and growing disillusionment with the European Union, right-wing parties in a growing number of European countries have made electoral gains. The right-wing parties included below [see charts in article] range across a wide policy spectrum, from populist and nationalist to far-right neofascist".

    No Schmidt; you are running around the problem. "Education" here, especially in the poor communities also have the teachers "matching" such area. Home schooling is done on an large scale as well no education at all is prevalent; drop out rates are here awfully high. Let alone "what" they learn in school here. Certainly not much related to "culture" or "rationalize" or "analyse human" and "world affairs". Only if you go to Harvard or the like, you may know an bit more, but still can not tie everything together about the why and how. Indeed Europe is swinging to the right, thanks to us!!! The US created the refugee crisis, not Europe. Thanks. Guess what; the refugee's in Europe are better off than an lot of people in our inner cities who vote for Trump as your posted article says. The refugee's get plenty of money, housing, food etc. as well free schooling. But this gives an huge burden to the established society; that is also the Brexit reason as well movement to the "right". Furthermore, don't deny that it is an "capitalistic" system here; one of the reasons Bernie lost: he was an "socialist" an swear word here. Typically which I also posted; the"rich" including figures like Trump, barely pay any taxes here; thus you call that "socialistic"? Sure you can blame all of this on other things, like religion or media etc. But rational thinking can only be learned from "educated world experienced" teachers, not the one's who just have them learn to write or give only tests. I was lucky as an orphan to get the experienced teachers which made me think about things and analyse "cause and effect" about all you do or plan to do.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt, I told you the coal "communities" were special people with special needs. You replied:

    "Chet -- Any community that has been devastated for whatever reason can in fact revitalize itself."

    Your link describes the people in coal communities, virtually all of them. Special people with special needs that nobody seemed to know about. Probably the only real way to help them is to put money for them in a perpetual trust sending out monthly checks or gift cards or cash. These people live all over the country. They are more concentrated in coal communities because the balancing population evacuated as conditions deteriorated.

  • Center Left
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    Trump - not coal.

    Florida is full of deplorable people. That may be too kind. A central Florida doctor is offering to do a free testosterone test to any man who is voting for Hillary Clinton. Nice hot weather - sure, but this state is full of ignorance with little social development and hateful persons.

  • Liberal
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    So, TJ, you had to leave Ohio to find that out?

    Dutch and I could have saved you the effort if you only asked ;)

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    pr Wrote:

    So, TJ, you had to leave Ohio to find that out?

    Dutch and I could have saved you the effort if you only asked ;)

    P.R. I'm glad Tony found out that FL is run by the biggest crook ( Scott) who enriched himself via hospitals and accepted huge sums of "polluters" who are ruining our environment. This guy is an 100% supporter of Trump and does not believe in climate change or global warming. He's part of the "foursome" idiots, like Trump, Guiliani, Christie. All four together probably pay less taxes than I do.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I watch the PBS coverage of FL State Gov Staff Business. Scott looks like a giggling idiot presiding over a grade school clubhouse of kids playing grownup. One session his bikini posing Attorney General brought a dog in for adoption. Benefit ending tax cutting giggling Scott amazes how if she brings a dog in it will get adopted. I love dogs and there are only a couple of humans I would have a hard time choosing between them and my dogs, but there were no kids brought in from orphanages. Nor was there any concern expressed about the many official houses filled with and protecting abused children and women.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: I watch the PBS coverage of FL State Gov Staff Business. Scott looks like a giggling idiot presiding over a grade school clubhouse of kids playing grownup. One session his bikini posing Attorney General brought a dog in for adoption. Benefit ending tax cutting giggling Scott amazes how if she brings a dog in it will get adopted. I love dogs and there are only a couple of humans I would have a hard time choosing between them and my dogs, but there were no kids brought in from orphanages. Nor was there any concern expressed about the many official houses filled with and protecting abused children and women.
    Chet that Attorney General (Bondi) received $25K from Trump to keep her mouth shut about the Trump University scandal; a real Republican sweetheart.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: Opinions?

    This is a fascinating article and probably the first "bio" of a Trump supporter that I've come across.

    You've often talked about "low information voters" and I think we would agree Melanie Austin fits that mold perfectly. She is angry because her life isn't going the way she feels that she's entitled to and needs someone to blame.

    Low information voters like her are a scary bunch, but there are millions of them. These "basket of deplorable's" are angry that the country is changing and that they no longer have the same amount of power as they used to have when white people ruled everything.